Does OpenBSD's pf prevents Hole punching?
Hello, I heard that OpenBSD's pf can prevent Hole punching: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punching_(networking) Is it true? I just cannot google on it, but if someone would answer this thread then the world can google for it from that point :D Thanks..
Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2
UDP servers listening? would that open possibility for massive DOSes? Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 at 12:14 PM From: "Reyk Floeter" <r...@openbsd.org> To: "Marina Ala" <marina...@mail.com> Cc: "OpenBSD Misc" <misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2 On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 09:14:10AM +0200, Marina Ala wrote: > Hello! > > When will the httpd have HTTP/2 support in OpenBSD? > > Endpoints, webservers and the devices/networs between the two points would greatly benefit from HTTP/2. > > Faster and less traffic. > > Thanks. > Isn't QUIC the hot new thing now? It is UDP, so Google can reinvent TCP and turn even more of their browser into an OS-replacement ;) Seriously, there are benefits of implementing HTTP/2, and it would be an interesting exercise to do so, but it is also adds many problems and some complexity. So: maybe. Reyk
OpenBSD httpd and HTTP/2
Hello! When will the httpd have HTTP/2 support in OpenBSD? Endpoints, webservers and the devices/networs between the two points would greatly benefit from HTTP/2. Faster and less traffic. Thanks.
Does OpenBSD have SMEP and SMAP implementation? or MPX?
Just thought it would be interesting: from: http://akat1.pl/?id=3 "Dragonfly BSD lacks of SMEP and SMAP implementation, which means that we can execute code placed in the user's pages directly from the kernel space, sweet." Did OpenBSD implemented SMEP and SMAP? If not yet, maybe my mail wasn't useless. :) And what about Intel MPX? Many thanks!
Intel MPX and OpenBSD?
Hello, is OpenBSD using the features for Intel MPX? To get it work afaik it needs compiler, runtime library and operating system support. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_MPX https://intel-mpx.github.io/ https://intel-mpx.github.io/security/ https://software.intel.com/en-us/isa-extensions/intel-mpx Thanks!
Re: npppd troubles
On 11/03/2016 03:36 PM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 03:17:40PM -0400, Marina Brown wrote: >> Hi All: >> >> I have been trying to create an nppp connection across my property - >> about 100M for one of my friends who lives here. He wants less security >> than i like behind my firewall. I have not been able to get OpenBSD to >> route his connection out of the network. Here are my settings. > >> # NAT Rule to translate from internal to External NET >> pass out on em0 inet from em1:network to any nat-to (em0) > > You're using NAT when passing out on em0 here, and... > >> external = em0 > >> pass out quick on $external from 10.0.0.103/32 to any > > ... my guess is that you're missing 'nat-to ($external)' here ^ > Thanks - is there a way to exclude the npppd users from the nat altogether. That is the reason for the excersize. If i put him behind the nat we are right where we started. He runs games that don't play well with strict NAT settings and i don't want the rest of my network exposed to reduced security. I thought he would be on pppx0. Is there a way to do this. --- Marina Brown signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
npppd troubles
b0 6472 - 1
em1
192.168.2/24 192.168.2.1C 00 - 4
em2
192.168.2.100:00:24:d2:16:e2 UHLl 00 - 1
em2
192.168.2.255 192.168.2.1Hb 00 - 1
em2
192.168.3/24 192.168.3.1C 00 - 4
em3
192.168.3.100:00:24:d2:16:e3 UHLl 00 - 1
em3
192.168.3.255 192.168.3.1Hb 00 - 1
em3
Internet6:
DestinationGatewayFlags Refs Use Mtu Prio
Iface
::/96 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
::/104 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
localhost localhost UHl 14 14 32768 1
lo0
::127.0.0.0/104localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
::224.0.0.0/100localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
::255.0.0.0/104localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
:::0.0.0.0/96 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
2002::/24 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
2002:7f00::/24 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
2002:e000::/20 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
2002:ff00::/24 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
fe80::/10 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
fec0::/10 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
fe80::1%lo0fe80::1%lo0UHl00 32768 1
lo0
ff01::/16 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
ff01::%lo0/32 localhost Um 01 32768 4
lo0
ff02::/16 localhost UGRS 00 32768 8
lo0
ff02::%lo0/32 localhost Um 01 32768 4
lo0
#
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# $OpenBSD: pf.conf,v 1.54 2014/08/23 05:49:42 deraadt Exp $
#
# See pf.conf(5) and /etc/examples/pf.conf
set skip on lo
block return# block stateless traffic
pass# establish keep-state
# By default, do not permit remote connections to X11
block return in on ! lo0 proto tcp to port 6000:6010
# NAT Rule to translate from internal to External NET
pass out on em0 inet from em1:network to any nat-to (em0)
internal = em1
external = em0
vpn_if = "pppx"
vpn_net = "10.0.0.0/24"
#queue std on $internal bandwidth 1000M
#queue inbound parent std bandwidth 800M default
#queue inbound_a parent std bandwidth 8000K
queue std on $internal bandwidth 1000M
queue inbound_a parent std bandwidth 8M
queue inbound_b parent std bandwidth 10M
#queue d_default parent std bandwidth 800M default
#queue std1 on $external bandwidth 1000M
#queue outbound parent std1 bandwidth 800M default
#queue outbound_a parent std1 bandwidth 8000K
queue std on $external bandwidth 1000M
queue outbound_a parent std bandwidth 8M
queue outbound_b parent std bandwidth 10M
queue d_default parent std bandwidth 800M default
dhcppool = "{ 192.168.1.225, 192.168.1.226, 192.168.1.227,
192.168.1.228, 192.168.1.229, 192.168.1.230,
192.168.1.231, 192.168.1.232, 192.168.1.233,
192.168.1.234, 192.168.1.235, 192.168.1.236,
192.168.1.237, 192.168.1.238, 192.168.1.239,
192.168.1.240, 192.168.1.241, 192.168.1.242,
192.168.1.243, 192.168.1.244, 192.168.1.245,
192.168.1.246, 192.168.1.247, 192.168.1.248,
192.168.1.249, 192.169.1.250 }"
wireless = 192.168.1.130
pop = 192.168.1.126
chickencoop = 192.168.1.26
kevinnet = " {192.168.100/24} "
marinanet = "192.168.1.0/24"
marina = 192.168.1.29
laura = 192.168.1.22
erica = 192.168.1.15
# HP5E8B67 printer
printer = 192.168.1.56
pass quick proto { esp, ah } from any to any
pass in quick on egress proto udp from any to any port {500, 4500, 1701}
keep state
pass on enc0 from any to any keep state (if-bound)
pass on tun0 from any to any keep state (if-bound)
pass out on tun0 from any to any keep state (if-bound)
pass out on tun0 from any to any keep state
# allow all trafic in the VPN network
pass quick on $vpn_if from $vpn_net
# allow all trafic out to the VPN network
pass quick on $vpn_if to $vpn_net
block in on $internal
pass in on $internal from { 192.168.1.129 }
pass in quick on $internal from { 192.168.1.32, 192.168.1.29,
192.168.1.126, 192.168.1.129, 192.168.1.22, 192.168.1.15, 192.168.1.51,
192.168.1.1 }
# Kevin
pass in quick on $internal from 10.0.0.103/32 to any
pass out quick on $internal from any to 10.0.0.103/32
pass in quick on $external from any to 10.0.0.103/32
pass out quick on $external from 10.0.0.103/32 to any
pass in quick on $internal from 192.168.1.127 to any
pass out quick on $internal from any to 192.168.1.127
# P@P ###
#pass in on $internal from $pop
#pass out quick o
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Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]
Most of us on this list are happy to see software and hardware that is open source. Might i most respectfully suggest that this is not the best venue to promote this. We agree on a lot of points. Dr Stallman i now see the dogged determination that has made you effective, however i have to note that this is not the best venue to make this fight. I am sure there are more companies out there you could help push to free their hardware or software. --- Marina Brown Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.surferz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA7B149CB6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.surferz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.surferz.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01692-04-28 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from shear.ucar.edu (lists.openbsd.org [192.43.244.163]) by mail.surferz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF7F149736 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from openbsd.org (localhost.ucar.edu [127.0.0.1]) by shear.ucar.edu (8.14.1/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m01LS4Pw025278; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:28:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by shear.ucar.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m01LOYXn016757 for misc@openbsd.org; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:24:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1J9ob9-0005Sz-GD; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:24:31 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Greidanus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (message from Paul Greidanus on Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:48:47 -0700) Subject: Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:24:31 -0500 X-Loop: misc@openbsd.org Precedence: list Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at surferz.net I'm curious how you can recomend an OS, like gNewSense that only runs on non-free hardware, that has required non-free software to be used in it's creation? How do you do these things? Perhaps I do them the same way. The term non-free hardware is misleading, because the issues that divide free software from non-free software do not apply to hardware. There are no copiers for hardware and it has no source code. As for Intels use of non-ree software, I am sorry for them, and I hope that someday they will be able to move to free software.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, STeve Andre' wrote: On Saturday 15 December 2007 23:42:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote: For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time. Would you mind sharing the recipie ? That sounds like a great idea. --- Marina Brown I suspect it involves the use of RFC 1149. LOL ! That would have introduced enough dampening into this conversation to prevent much of the flamage ;-) --- Marina Brown --STeve Andre'
Re: BSD vs Debian [Was: Re: Real men don't attack straw men]
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 03:36:21AM +, Gilbert Fernandes wrote: Where I work right now, we have bsd and debian on servers. All user computers run debian or mandrake right now (and we're going to move those to debian). We dont let them choose. It is mandatory. We use bsd and some debian on servers, and they will use free software on computers. The main reason is not freedom or fighting proprietary software. It is (1) getting work done and (2) when we got unix-alike everywhere it makes our job as system admins and network admins easier. I curious (and not wanting to start a new flame war) about the decision tree to put debain on the workstations instead of BSD everywhere. What factors were involved? Where there logistical issues that debian sovled better in this case than BSD? Is it OpenBSD or another? Doug. Oh, please. A lot of us here are quite agnostic. Personally i like OS's. I run the following. OpenBSD for router, FreeBSD for webserver, Ubuntu linux for desktop at home. Plan9 for desktop and VNC at work, Linux on one box, FreeBSD on most of my servers Centos where the job has told me to install it. Back to home i run inferno for os supporting editor Acme Sac on occassion and Windows under Qemu when i must at work. My wife may give me her WinXP license when she upgrades to Vista and i will use that under Qemu just for the perverse thrill of running windows in an emu under linux. I also like what the folks are doing with DragonFlyBSD, though i do not run it any more now that my test boxes have all died. Oh, and the laptop runs Plan9 and ubuntu. Now, i will say thank you to all the coders that are here listening that make my software experience possible ;-) --- Marina Brown
Re: Play Nice - Real men don't attack straw men (Theo)
David: Do you even use OpenBSD ? I've been using it for many many years. What stake do you have in this discussion ? --- Marina Brown On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote: Marco Peereboom wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote: That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent from the OpenBSD web site. If it is what OpenBSD beleives - have the balls to say so, rather than the watered down language on the website. The OpenBSD website expresses a clear value for code quality, and one of security. Ports are 3rd party apps. Of course we don't make a value judgement on the OpenBSD website for it. WTF? So if I write a non-free insecure kernel and install it via ports that is acceptable. You are trying to argue both pragmatism and principle concurrently, You are obviously free to try but it makes things very easy for me. It is also inconsistent with providing URL's to software that is not free to all. I do not care whether you use a different definition of freedom than the FSF/GNU/RMS. Whatever your definition of freedom is, if you do not apply it to the things you provide URL's for in ports, then you are saying that that freedom is not really all that important to you. If you really beleive in that stick to it, even with in URL's in ports. Tell RMS that OpenBSD will accept in ports only software that is freely redistributable, regardless, of what its purpose is. One is not at liberty to change words around to mean what they want. That is not part of a civil conversation. First we have to agree on the meaning then we can have a debate. As a politician he changes the meaning of words around to fit his purposes. I'll call BS on that every time I'll see it. I am not changing the meaning of words, for the most part I am taking your words, with your meanings, and applying them consistently to your system, until it produces a contradiction. If your words, your definitions and your values were consistent no contradiction would occur. One of the most serious problems that you have is that if you have a system that is self contraditictory and you accept the contradictions as truth, then you can prove anything. that is a principle of logic. It has nothing to do with me, except that I have used it as a tool. If there is no contraditiction in your system of values, then it will not work. One of my problems with OpenBSD, is that the sense I get of what you mean by freedom is the freedom to do whatever I please, including reject your own values, when it is convenient. Further I think you are so hostile to the FSF/GPL/RMS that you would deliberately violate your own principles, to spite RMS. You seem to fail to understand that nobody cares what RMS' little OS list looks like. What I care about is that he shows up on my mailing lists and start pissing in my sandbox. I don't care what his opinion is; he can say whatever he wants. What he can't do is lying about my OS in front of me and expect me not to react. He is full of it and we have told him so. If he is sick of being flamed he can stop responding. That is not the perception I have of OpenBSD. Whenever, there is some spat with Linux Kernel developers, OpenBSD rushes to demand that RMS straighten it out for them. Providing him with a predefined eexplanation of exactly how his own values requires him to do so, along with, the presumption that he will not and maligning him because he did not - all before even hitting send. In the end you are what you hate. But you are not the real RMS, you are the one your have created.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, ropers wrote: On 15/12/2007, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you give a no-recommendation to the internet as well? Well, his past statements about not being able to view HTTPS pages, catching web pages (browsing through email?) and receiving messages in batches almost made me suspect that he uses FidoNet or something. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet ) Others have already asked him just what he uses. He hasn't answered that one yet, but it would not surprise me if he boycotts the Internet for some reason. Maybe because the Bush administration has broken the US' earlier promise to relinquish control of the root? Hey Stallman! There's always ORSN. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORSN ) No need to use FidoNet. See, you can browse TEH Intarwebs too. These tubes are made for surfin'. ;-) I kid, I kid! ;oP --ropers Email and web via UUCP ? I see it making a big comeback when humans finally colonize mars ;-) Just no serial handshaking. No kidding. Think of the delays. between here and there. --- marina brown
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote: For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time. Would you mind sharing the recipie ? That sounds like a great idea. --- Marina Brown
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Marc Balmer wrote: Richard Stallman wrote: For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time. and it shows that you are a complete dork. you are disconnected from reality. how can we take you for serious? Some people need to slow down. It's legit. I actually get some of my best work done when i do not have the distraction of email and web there to tempt me. Even the 1 day delay in this email conversation is not quite enough though. --- Marina Brown
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
David: The OpenBSD position is best expressed in this rather rude statement: Shut up and code. RMS is a philosopher of the evangelical sort. Folks here are a bit more pragmatic and want to code. A lot of us are infuriated by this discussion. You suggested that Theo might have Asbergers. As someone who has a nervous condition that mimics Asbergers in certain aspects i will tell you that arguing fast on a mailing list will do nothing but irritate me even if the arguments are cogent. A person with a condition like that is easilly distracted from imporatant work. So get it ? Shut up and code ! If you want an OpenBSD that RMS would like, write a patch that would remove the stuff he hates from the tree. Even though i have not written anything for OpenBSD in years (1 port to my credit) i am getting VERY frustrated with this discussion. --- Marina Brown On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Hell, the OpenBSD ports tree should perhaps contain patches which REMOVE such commercial operating system support. That's a fork Richard would surely approve of. Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo. I have no doubt that in some context Richard is hypocritical. Though most of us would be hard pressed to structure our lives to be consistent with our beleifs and principles to the extent that he has. But this is not about EMACS, nor is it about hypocracy. RMS made statements first. RMS will pay for his lies. Why did I even bother. I was not trying to defend RMS or attack you. I was actually looking at the possibility that there might be some way of getting something positive out of this for OpenBSD. There is an obvious win-win for everybody, but you are fixated on revenge for imaginary slights. This sounds like something from my eight year old. You are 30something, Grow up. Do you really write your own email, or do you have some kid do them for you ? It is more important to you to catch Stallman in some mis-statement or lie than to even figure out what is best for OpenBSD ? Rather than figure out if there is anyway OpenBSD can benefit, it is more important to find a way to screw somebody else ? Every once in a while you show rationality and intelligence, and I think maybe there is some real value and real hope for OpenBSD, then you lob off a message like this one. No. Nothing begs the question of what we do. We are not going to change our process in any way as a result of what some loony retard says. So if Richard adopted the BSD/ISC you would switch to the GPL just to spite him ? We know _exactly_ what our principles are, and we are sticking to them very clearly. Yes, the screw RMS, Screw the FSF, and screw the world, and screw ourselves principle. Because frankly I can't see where you are following any other. Your position on closed hardware and binary blobs is exactly the same as Stallman's, and logically leads to the same position on software. Yet so far I have gotten no position on software - aside from the claim that Stallman somehow insulted OpenBSD. The only way his remarks could be taken as an insult, would be if you actually have the same principles. Even then it would be more of an uninformed error than an insult. It is not an insult for him to claim that you tacitly endorse non-free software - if you do. Whatever your principles are you are sticking to them so clearly that I do not even think most of the OpenBSD developers know what they actually are - well aside from the screw everybody else principle. That one seems abundantly clear. From the perspective of OpenBSD values, How far does the OpenBSD disdain for non-free software extend ? Richard does not stand in a position where he can ask that question to us. Nor do you. We'll do what we want, and your questions don't change anything. Forget Richard, Forget me, Forget all the people you think have fucked you over. Instead of trying to figure out how to extract revenge, figure out what is best for OpenBSD. There is nothing wrong with doing what you want. But it sure as hell looks as if you are more interested in making certain that you do NOT do anything that richard might want. That anytime he says black, you are going to say white. In many circles I am known for having nearly an absolutist position on Free Speech. Your expressed position is even more absolutist than mine. Yet here you are telling others we can not even ask questions. My we have clay feet. Richard has actually answer the challenges you have thrown at him. In those instances where someone found that something that he recommended was not adhering to the standards he established, he commited to look into it and either fix it or revoke his recommendation. You refuse to deign to allow anyone else to ask questions. Establish what your principles and policies are or are going to be. We did. Years ago. I got it, OpenBSD is good, non-free
(Thread name objectionable as well) Re: Real men don't attack straw men
Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man. Actually I'm not a man at all. Not all people who are in software are men. I've contributed in small ways to OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Linux and Plan9. --- Marina Brown On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote: An anthology contains the actual licensed material of the books. The ports tree only contains urls of these pieces of software you object to. You're right, but I don't think that difference matters for this issue. Giving just the URLs for non-free software is referring people to them.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote: If a library has a book on [insert-controversial-topic-here], does that imply endorsement of said topic by the library or by someone who reads the book? Should the library burn copies of books on such topics to protect the citizenry? Absolutely not. A system distribution is more like an anthology than like a library. We do consider the editor of the anthology book responsible for the choice of what to include. An anthology contains the actual licensed material of the books. The ports tree only contains urls of these pieces of software you object to. Your argument here fails. --- Marina Brown
Re: Real men don't attack straw men ( I Call Goodwins Law )
Someone already mentioned Hitler. Can we let this thread die. --- Marina Brown
Re: Remembering Jun-ichiro Hagino
I will talk with one of the wikipedia admins i know. She is a developer and might be sympathetic. -- Marina Brown On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 12:04:37AM +0100, ropers said that How would people feel about creating a Wikipedia article for Itojun? Surely his IPv6 work makes him notable enough? eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itojun it all comes down to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Notability my life is too short to fight with WP admins. he is mentioned explicitly in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 (with edit link) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OpenBSD_developers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvi and so on. -f -- excellent day to have a rotten day.
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/09/14 12:55, Edwards, David (JTS) wrote: Have you ever tried to do an install of FreeBSD/Linux using a 9600 serial console? Oh thanks, I'd been trying to erase that from memory (-: FreeBSD, 9600 serial, PXE boot. Took the best part of a day... Last time i did that was on my soekris. Took about 25 minutes to get all the base files on my desktop and set up dhcpd to boot the soekris, about 10 minutes fooling around with cables and about 3-4 minutes to install. ...off the serial cable... Easy. I prefer the text based install to Almost any other installer. Almost any other... --- marina brown
