can't get fonts to show up

[Carson Chittom]

I have purchased some fonts that I like, and I want to use them
throughout my OpenBSD 7.0 system.  I have both TTF and OTF versions of
the fonts.

I created a new port in /usr/ports/mystuff/myfonts and copied over the
Makefile from fonts/ibm-plex to use as a model, edited it *only*
(AFAICR) to adjust for font names and paths, did the minimum possible to
actually create a package, and installed it.  That worked fine.

I may have run mkfontscale and mkfontdir manually in each font's
directory as well; I don't remember. In any case, the fonts are
available to GTK and Qt.

As part of ~/.xsession, I also have:

if [ -d /usr/local/share/fonts ]; then
  for i in /usr/local/share/fonts/*; do
xset fp+ $i
  done
  xset fp rehash
fi

But the fonts still do not show up in xfontsel (unlike, for example, if
I install fonts/ibm-plex), and I don't seem to be able to use them in
Fvwm either, even if I copy a font description directly from
/usr/local/share/fonts/myfonts/fonts.dir

So, I'm guessing either my fonts are missing something, or I'm missing
something.  I've tried to search and mostly just turned up Arch Linux
wiki pages telling me to do the things I'd already done with
mkfontscale, mkfontdir, and xset.  Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

airport file

[Carson Chittom]

Not sure why I'd never noticed it before, but I discovered 
/usr/share/misc/airport today, so of course I looked for my local ones.  

This edits JAN to correct a typo and reflect the airport's current name, and 
also adds HKS.  For the record, I have been to both (and their existence is 
documented at https://jmaa.com).  


--- /usr/share/misc/airport Mon Apr 19 11:16:54 2021
+++ /home/carson/airportFri Oct  1 13:36:09 2021
@@ -677,6 +677,7 @@
 HKG:Hong Kong
 HKK:Hokitika, New Zealand
 HKN:Hoskins, Papua New Guinea
+HKS:Hawkins Field, Jackson, Mississippi, USA 
 HKT:Phuket, Thailand
 HKV:Haskovo, Bulgaria
 HKY:Hickory, North Carolina, USA
@@ -793,7 +794,7 @@
 IZO:Izumo, Japan
 JAC:Jackson Hole, Wyoming, USA
 JAI:Sanganeer, Jaipur, India
-JAN:Jackson Municipal/Thompson Field, Missippi, USA
+JAN:Jackson-Medgar Wiley Evers International, Mississippi, USA
 JAT:Jabat International, Marshall Islands
 JAV:Ilulissat, Greenland
 JAX:Jacksonville International, Florida, USA

Re: am and nfsv3

[Carson Chittom]

On July 4, 2021 7:51:55 PM CDT, Gustavo Rios  wrote:
>Hi folks!
>
>Does openbsd amd use NFSv3 ?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>

No, NFSv2, according to a recent post on this list.

Re: Can I do 4-26 snapshot to 6.9-stable safely?

[Carson Chittom]

On Sat, May 1, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Luke Small wrote:
> I google searched: “site:openbsd.org (snapshot OR current) (stable OR
> release) faq”
> 
> and found no results which speaks of minor downgrades.
> 
> Also, “sysupgrade -r” defaults to 7.0 when trying to upgrade from previous
> 6.9 snapshots to release. Is it intended to require folks to use bsd.rd (or
> use an iso) to make that change?

See the very first sentence on this page: 
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade69.html

Re: home printer

[Carson Chittom]

Jan Stary  writes:


Can people please recommend a home laser printer
that is known to work well with OpenBSD?

I would like to avoid cups, and possibly a2ps
and foo* and if= and all that dance
- a printer that speaks postscript and is as easy as
lp:lp=/dev/lp:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:


HP at least used to (and I assume still do) make several decent 
printers that spoke Postscript.  In particular, I've used the 
CP1525nw in the past with OpenBSD.  Haven't tried it in a couple 
years, though; none of my OpenBSD machines need to print, these 
days.

Re: [patch] calendar.music: Neil Peart 1952-2020

[Carson Chittom]

Matthew J. C. Clarke  writes: 

 01/08	Elvis Presley born in East Tupelo, Mississippi, 
 1935 


This caught my eye, being from Mississippi myself.

As far as I know or can tell from searching online, there's no 
such place as "East Tupelo".  This should be just "Tupelo" (my 
preference) or "east Tupelo" (the Elvis Presley Birthplace Museum 
does appear to be on the eastern side of Tupelo).

Re: Suddenly Trojta mail application on my computer can't sent e-mail.

[Carson Chittom]

"f...@freddyfisker.dk"  writes:

> I have been using Trojita for more than 2 years without problems, but now I 
> can't sent mails any more.
>
> It's OpenBSD 6.1 and Trojita 0.7p1 I am using.
>
> When I try to sent an e-mail, there is coming a window with the text: Host 
> not found.
>
> Then the mail is in Trojita folder: Sent
>
> But the mail is not sent.
>
> This mail is sent from my webmail.

I recommend verifying with your mail administrator the SMTP server and
settings you should be using.  The fact that you happen to be running
OpenBSD seems to be irrelevant, based on your problem statement.

Re: Help setting up email with opensmtp.

[Carson Chittom]

leroy jordan  writes:

> Thanks!  I will let you know the results thanks.  One more question, is
> there a man page for the secrets.

The secrets are documented in smtpd.conf(5), if I'm understanding your
question correctly.  Take a look at the EXAMPLES section.

bulk builds fail with "Operation not permitted"

[Carson Chittom]

I'm trying to do a bulk build with dpb on 6.2-stable.  dpb eventually
errors out with

_pbuild can't write to /usr/ports/logs/amd64//paths/telephony/asterisk.log: 
Operation not
permitted at /usr/ports/infrastructure/lib/DPB/Util.pm line 52.

which looks like a permission error to me, but:

# ls -ld /usr/ports/logs/amd64/paths/telephony/
drwxr-xr-x  4 _pbuild  _pbuild  1024 Feb 18 15:59

Can anyone give me a pointer as to where to troubleshoot further?

error in calendar.history

[Carson Chittom]

This line

> 02/27 The Lionheart crowned, 1189

in calendar.history appears to have the wrong date.  The history
Wikipedia cites for Richard I says the coronation date was
September 13, 1189.

https://books.google.com/books?id=1Q4lh8KLi1YC=PP1=isbn%3A0300094043=PA107#v=onepage=false

Re: hydrogen bomb explosion

[Carson Chittom]

Carson Chittom <car...@wistly.net> writes:

> Today's calendar reminder includes:
>
>> Nov 18 First hydrogen bomb blasts Enewetok, 1952
>
> All the sources I could find online say that the first hydrogen bomb,
> the Ivy Mike device, was actually detonated on Nov 1 local (Oct 31
> UTC).  Wikipedia has a writeup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike
>
> Additionally, the common spelling of the atoll appears to be Enewetak
> (not -tok).

Sorry, should have said, this is from calendar.history.

Though I note that calendar.ushistory includes a line also:

> 05/21US explodes first hydrogen bomb, 1956

Not sure what this is a reference to.

hydrogen bomb explosion

[Carson Chittom]

Today's calendar reminder includes:

> Nov 18 First hydrogen bomb blasts Enewetok, 1952

All the sources I could find online say that the first hydrogen bomb,
the Ivy Mike device, was actually detonated on Nov 1 local (Oct 31
UTC).  Wikipedia has a writeup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike

Additionally, the common spelling of the atoll appears to be Enewetak
(not -tok).

Re: Ripping CDs and DVDs

[Carson Chittom]

Vijay Sankar  writes:

> Am I on the right track or is there a better way to do this? Any advice
> gratefully appreciated and accepted.

If you come up with a better way, please do report back, or at least
send me an email.  I'm looking to do basically this myself Real Soon
Now, after I get a round tuit.

calendar(1) entries for Sep 14 & 15

[Carson Chittom]

I noticed a couple of minor things in my daily calendar reminder
email to draw someone's attention to:


car...@oxford.wistly.net (Reminder Service) writes:

> Sep 14The Selective Service Act establishes the first peacetime 
> draft, 1940

This is in calendar.history -- I would suggest moving it to
calendar.ushistory and/or amending it to read "...in the US"; I assume
this wasn't the first instance of a peacetime draft in the history of
the world, which seems implausible.

> Sep 15The Nazi's adopt a new national flag with the swastika, 1935

The apostrophe is extraneous here; it should just be "The Nazis"

Re: document the actual meaning of ssh's "command" argument

[Carson Chittom]

Theo de Raadt  writes:

> The facts are this is unix, and there is a minimum height required to
> ride.

May I suggest to whoever is responsible for theo.c:  this belongs in it.

Re: hardware recommendation for openbsd-based thin client?

[Carson Chittom]

Stuart Henderson  writes:

> On 2016-05-27, Marko Cupać  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just noticed that pcengines has alix models with VGA ports:
>>
>> http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d3.htm
>> http://www.pcengines.ch/alix1e.htm
>>
>> Anyone tried OpenBSD on them?
>
> Yep. It worked, including X - I used one with autologin to a browser to
> display a job schedule on a wallscreen. This was some years ago though,
> I wouldn't buy one for that job now.

OK, I'll bite:  what *would* you buy for that job now?

Re: Static webpages with OpenBSD - success stories

[Carson Chittom]

Paolo Aglialoro  writes:

> After a quick peek on openports I have seen pelican present, but couldn't
> identify more. On hugo webpage there's a package for OpenBSD
> https://github.com/spf13/hugo/releases

I just this week started using Pelican, largely because it *is* in
ports.  There seem to be a lot of themes available for it on Github, but
I haven't tried doing anything with them.  It works well, and the
Makefile you get out of its "initialize site directory" script covers
most use cases I could think of.  

The only caveat off the top of my head is that if you use the
autogenerated Makefile in your site's directory, you'll need gmake since
there are apparently some GNUisms.  I already had gmake installed, so I
didn't bother rewriting the Makefile.

typo in calendar.music

[Carson Chittom]

In my daily email this morning from calendar(1), I noticed that
tomorrow's entry for Sergei Rachmaninov in calendar.music has a typo: it
should be "Beverly" rather than "Beverley".  Just thought I'd point it
out.

Re: lynx question

[Carson Chittom]

Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs writes:

 I updated to lattest snapshot, from the one, that still
 had lynx in the base. After upgrading packages, I manualy
 removed old lynx version from /usr/bin and installed new
 version in /usr/local/bin, using pkg_add.
 Is there something that might trigger any problem, doing
 manual removal?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade56.html says to remove /usr/bin/lynx
manually, so I would not expect any problems from doing so.

Re: Fund raising

[Carson Chittom]

worik worik.stan...@gmail.com writes:

 I got a lot of shit on this list for suggesting that the OpenBSD project
 sell documentation collections (that are freely available elsewhere) as
 a method of raising funds for the project as CD rom sales dry up.

I like printed documentation myself--I find it easier to read.  You can
easily generate Postscript from man pages.  See
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq2.html#ManPages and scroll down to How
can I get a PostScript copy of a man page that's print-ready?), in case
you weren't aware.

LOTR dates in calendar.fictional

[Carson Chittom]

Somebody with more time on their hands than I may want to know that the
dates for occurrences from _The Lord of the Rings_ in calendar.fictional
don't agree with what's at http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/TA_3019

For example, in today's Reminder Service email, I'm informed that today
is the date the Fellowship entered Moria, while the wiki gives that
event as January 13.  

I have no idea which is correct--insofar as correct applies to a
fictional occurrence--or the methodology by which either date was
derived.

Re: YP Alternative

[Carson Chittom]

Brian Empson br...@teamhandbanana.com writes:

 I'm looking into a way to sync up group and user information across a
 network of OpenBSD machines. I like YP, except that I don't need the
 password hashes transferred across the network. I like that it's built
 right into the base install, are there better ways to handle
 synchronizing login details across multiple machines that is built
 into the base install? Preferably written by the OpenBSD team, too?

There is ldapd(8) in base, though I've never used it myself.

-- 
http://www.wistly.net

typo in calendar.ushistory

[Carson Chittom]

This is minor, but when I received my Reminder Service email from
calendar(1) this morning, I noticed that there were a couple of typos.
The entry for 01/02 in src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.ushistory
has brittish american.  I would suggest British-American instead.

-- 
http://www.wistly.net

Re: typo in calendar.ushistory

[Carson Chittom]

Jason McIntyre j...@kerhand.co.uk writes:

 On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 06:44:50AM -0600, Carson Chittom wrote:
 This is minor, but when I received my Reminder Service email from
 calendar(1) this morning, I noticed that there were a couple of typos.

 you say couple, but i take it you mean regarding this one entry?

Yes, a couple (well, three) in this one entry: two proper adjectives
uncapitalized, and one word with an extra letter.  The hyphen is how I'd
write it; but styles differ, and I'm not finicky.

 so i'll aim for British American convoy. but not today, since it's new
 year's day.

Thank you for taking care of it!

-- 
http://www.wistly.net

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

[Carson Chittom]

Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net writes:

 On 14-12-07 06:37 AM, Martin Schröder wrote:
 Is OpenBSD actually a registered trademark? The USPTO doesn't list it. 
 FreeBSD is, though.
 The answer appears to be no, as CIPO doesn't list it, either.
 My guess is that keeping the lights on (literally) was a higher priority 
 than paying the annual registration fee.

 I'm reasonably confident that if someone were to step up to not only 
 fund the trademark application (looks like $500/yr /in perpetuity/  in 
 IPO fees alone???), but find a trademark agent willing to do the work 
 /pro bono/, and spend the time filling out the paperwork, etc. etc., 
 etc. then it could probably happen fairly rapidly.
 I believe it would have to be done through the Canadian office 
 (http://cipo.gc.ca/) since both Theo and the Foundation are based in Canada.
 AFAIK Canada does not yet comply with the Madrid Protocol, the Nice 
 Agreement or the Singapore Treaty, so that registration would only be 
 good in Canada.  An international application would probably be best 
 done through the USPTO, which incurs similar costs.

For the record, I get enough use out of OpenBSD that in case Mr. De
Raadt (or some other appropriate person from the OpenBSD Foundation)
desires me to do so, I am happy to research and shepherd the OpenBSD
trademark in the US; although I am not currently familiar with USPTO
regulations/procedures in general, I have considerable experience
dealing with bureaucracy--formerly, I was a member of the US Army and I
worked for around five years as an employee of a state government, and
was specifically tasked in both instances with interpreting (and in some
cases, writing) bureaucratic policy.  (I work for a private company now,
and am much, MUCH happier.)

I am not, however, willing to pay the required fees out of my own
account, without reimbursement.  I have five children who must, in fact,
be fed, it turns out.

Carson

Re: X -configure segmentation fault

[Carson Chittom]

Heptas Torres hepta...@gmail.com writes:

 Does this mean that obsd as a desktop is not really supported on the long run?

I run OpenBSD as a desktop every day.  Depends on how you mean
supported.  (Read: The fact that upstream code isn't maintained isn't
OpenBSD's fault.  If X's autoconfigure system doesn't work for you,
then that's a bug that should be filed--presumably upstream, with X.)

Re: fvwm in base [was: X -configure segmentation fault]

[Carson Chittom]

Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs writes:

 In fact, fvwm is in base part. 

A while ago, there was a message to misc from the fvwm developer about
relicensing fvwm to allow a more recent version into base.  I wonder if
there is any status update?

Re: Hyper-V drivers?

[Carson Chittom]

Guillaume Filion g...@logidac.com writes:

 I did some tests with OpenBSD 5.3 running as a Hyper-V 2012 virtual
 machine and the performance is disappointing (see
 http://guillaume.filion.org/blog/archives/2013/05/openbsd_networking_performance_hyperv_2012.php
 for data).

At the risk of sounding like an idiot, did you do anything particular in
the OpenBSD configuration to make Hyper-V's Legacy Network Adapter work?
I can't seem to make it do so--OpenBSD picks it up as de0, and I've
configured /etc/hostname.de0 appropriately.  The same Hyper-V setup
works okay for me for a Linux VM.

no link for athn(4) on Macbook2,1

[Carson Chittom]

I have an old Macbook2,1 (dmesg below) that I've slapped OpenBSD on for
purposes of just having something to check my email from.  Its wireless
card is picked up during the install as athn(4), the firmware was
installed on first boot, and /etc/hostname.athn0 is configured with my
local wireless network's details.  But when I boot the laptop, all I get
is athn0..no link Though msk(4) of course works fine, so I used a
wired connection to update to -stable, to see if that would fix things;
it didn't.

I searched the archives for every combination of macbook, athn, and
wireless I could think of, but I didn't see anything directly related
(mostly I came up with stuff about weirdness with the intel driver under
X, which I also see on this Macbook but don't care about since a console
is sufficient to run Emacs and check my email).

Am I doing something wrong?  Should I upgrade to a snapshot?  Any advice
welcome--I'd like for this laptop not to be tethered to a cable.

Here's the dmesg:

OpenBSD 5.2-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Apr 13 13:16:10 CDT 2013
car...@peregrine.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 2113896448 (2015MB)
avail mem = 2035314688 (1941MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe (37 entries)
bios0: vendor Apple Inc. version MB21.88Z.00A5.B07.0706270922 date 06/27/07
bios0: Apple Inc. MacBook2,1
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SBST ECDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices ADP1(S3) LID0(S3) PXS1(S4) PXS2(S4) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) 
USB3(S3) USB4(S3) USB7(S3) EC__(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz, 1995.37 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu0: 4MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz, 1995.00 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu1: 4MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 1
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf000, bus 0-255
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (RP01)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (RP02)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCIB)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID0
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 15253732082930497 type 15253732284385612 oem 
15253732284387396
acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1995 MHz: speeds: 2000, 1833, 1667, 1500, 1333, 1000 
MHz
memory map conflict 0x7ef0/0x10
memory map conflict 0x7f00/0x100
memory map conflict 0xf00f8000/0x1000
memory map conflict 0xfed1c000/0x4000
memory map conflict 0xfffb/0x3
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GM Host rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x8000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16
drm0 at inteldrm0
Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
vendor Intel, unknown product 0x27a3 (class DASP subclass Time and Frequency, 
rev 0x03) at pci0 dev 7 function 0 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: msi
azalia0: codecs: Sigmatel STAC9220/1
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: msi
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
mskc0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Marvell Yukon 88E8053 rev 0x22, Yukon-2 EC 
rev. A3 (0x2): apic 1 int 16
msk0 at mskc0 port A: address 00:17:f2:dd:07:47
eephy0 at msk0 phy 0: 88E Gigabit PHY, rev. 2
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: msi
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
athn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Atheros AR5418 rev 0x01: apic 1 int 17
athn0: MAC AR5418 rev 2, RF AR5133 (2T3R), ROM rev 4, address 00:1b:63:04:40:c2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 21
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 19
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 18
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 16
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 21
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb2 at 

Re: When to update -stable?

[Carson Chittom]

John Long codeb...@inbox.lv writes:

 I'm trying to remember how I should know when to update -stable. Is the
 errata web page the definitive source or is there some place else I should
 keep an eye on? 

I just have a cvs up in /etc/weekly.local.  The next morning, I look at
the emailed output and decide whether to do anything about it.

copyright on grdc?

[Carson Chittom]

This is pretty minor, but:

 1. I just noticed that both grdc.c and grdc.6 (in src/games/grdc)
say Copyright 2002 Amos Shapir.  Public domain.  The US
Copyright Office says[1], essentially, that copyright and public
domain are mutually exclusive categories.

 2. I found a message from Theo in the archives from 2003[2] listing
grdc as one of the items of which the license was clarified
during an audit.

 3. I vaguely remember that it may not be possible to place
something in the public domain in some countries.

Is the somewhat strange notice because of #3 (or is #3 even true)?  Or
is the notice misworded?  Or...?

[1] http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-definitions.html
[2] http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=104570938124454w=2

Re: Small USB wifi adapter

[Carson Chittom]

Laurence Rochfort laurence.rochf...@gmail.com writes:

 My laptop's integrated wifi adapter is not supported by OpenBSD.

 Can anybody suggest a USB adapter that doesn't stick out of the port very
 far?

 Ideally I'd like one that protrudes less than a centimeter.  There are
 several on amazon but technical details are scarce.

Check out the Airlink 101.  There are several models, but at least one
of them is supported by urtwn(4).

Re: Performance issues

[Carson Chittom]

Jay Hart jh...@kevla.org writes:

 On Sun, Mar 25, 2012, Jay Hart wrote:
 1. Unless I disable acpi (see dmesg), box freezes at 'acpiec0 at acpi0'

 What about just disabling acpiec?



 Ted,

 You're a GENIUS, that was it!  ;')

 How do I make that stick reboot to reboot?  Assume I need to compile custom
 kernel?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#config

Re: 5.0 Stable (amd64) build appears broken.

[Carson Chittom]

Duncan Patton a Campbell campb...@neotext.ca writes:

 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:16:34 -0700
 Duncan Patton a Campbell campb...@neotext.ca wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:24:56 -0500
 Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 20, 2012, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
   On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:05:19 -0500
   Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote:
   
   you are running config from a different version than the source you
   are trying to compile.
   
   Ok, but if I've started with 5.0 Release, how do I get 5.0 Stable's 
   config
   without
   building it?
  
  I would revisit the assumption you are building 5.0 on 5.0.  You are
  reporting an error nobody else is reporting, that just happens to be
  exactly the error one sees when building with a mismatched config and
  src, so You see where I'm coming from?
  
 
 Yes.  I do.  I can only assume I've buggerd up the src tree somehow.
 
 uname -svmpr
 OpenBSD 5.0 GENERIC.MP#63 amd64 AMD A6-3670 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
 
 thanks,
 

 So, the problem appears to be that you cannot check out a 5.0-Stable source 
 tree 
 directly on a 5.0-Release system, but instead must prime the tree with the 
 Release code and then checkout the Stable stuff on top.

No.  You're wrong.  At least, I did exactly what you said I cannot
do.  I installed (from CD) 5.0-release, and then cvs co'd -stable;
and then installed per the usual directions.  From dmesg:

OpenBSD 5.0-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Mon Jan 30 13:21:14 CST 2012
r...@jackson.wistly.net:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP

So unless something very strange has happened since January 30, you
appear to be Doing Something Wrong.

Re: WARNING: CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! [not installation]

[Carson Chittom]

Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org writes:

 On 2012-02-20, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote:
 I have seen this message after power-cycling an ALIX.
 If completely switched off (take the power cord out),
 the message appears on the next boot. On subsequent soft
 reboots (without taking the power cord out) the message
 does not appear. That makes me speculate that the battery
 does not really work: it only keeps a charge when AC
 is plugged in.

 Most models of Alix do not have a battery

I figure Jan has already thought of this, but for my own edification:
wouldn't putting ntpd_flags=-s in /etc/rc.conf.local--well, not fix, 
but hide the problem (provided there is network connectivity) once the
system actually comes up?  Or would that Be Bad? 

Re: Keeping installed ports up-to-date

[Carson Chittom]

Marc Espie es...@nerim.net writes:

 And out-of-date will tell you which of your ports you need to rebuild.

 One longer, more sure-fire procedure would be to
 pkg_info -q -m -P -a list
 pkg_delete /var/db/pkg/*
 dpb -I list

I'm looking at the dpb man page on 5.0-stable.  Did you mean -P on
that last line?

Re: OpenSMTPd and /etc/mail/aliases - FIXED

[Carson Chittom]

Mathieu - ptr.jeta...@gmail.com writes:

 On 8 February 2012 04:21, Carson Chittom car...@wistly.net wrote:
 I'm using 5.0-stable. Since I'm on a DSL line, I'm using smtpd to send
 external mail (using SSL, with a login and password) per the
 instructions in smtpd.conf(5). I have copied exactly the section under
 EXAMPLES (under smtpd.conf would look like this:). B I have also edited
 /etc/mailer.conf in accord with smtpd(8).

 I have edited /etc/mail/aliases to forward mail to root to my personal
 account and have run newaliases. B However, such mail (largely the output
 from /etc/daily and its ilk) still goes directly to root instead of to
 me. B Obviously, I'm doing something wrong--can somebody point me in the
 right direction?

 Did you add the alias your_alias_map directive ?

 Something like :
 accept for local alias your_alias_map deliver to mbox

Apparently what happened is that I missed this particular sentence in
smtpd.conf(5): For each message processed by the daemon, the filter
rules are evaluated in sequential order, from first to last.
My /etc/mail/smtpd.conf had

accept for local deliver to mbox
accept for local alias aliases deliver to mbox

so the aliases were never even getting looked at.  I've switched the
order and now everything works fine.

OpenSMTPd and /etc/mail/aliases

[Carson Chittom]

I'm using 5.0-stable.  Since I'm on a DSL line, I'm using smtpd to send
external mail (using SSL, with a login and password) per the
instructions in smtpd.conf(5).  I have copied exactly the section under
EXAMPLES (under smtpd.conf would look like this:).  I have also edited
/etc/mailer.conf in accord with smtpd(8).

I have edited /etc/mail/aliases to forward mail to root to my personal
account and have run newaliases.  However, such mail (largely the output
from /etc/daily and its ilk) still goes directly to root instead of to
me.  Obviously, I'm doing something wrong--can somebody point me in the
right direction? 

Re: spello and grammatical mistake in fortune

[Carson Chittom]

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Pascal Stumpf pascal.stu...@cubes.de wrote:

 Even a generalising relative clause takes the indicative in Latin.

 Romanes eunt domus!

 ok?

 Index: fortunes
 ===
 RCS file: /cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes,v
 retrieving revision 1.41
 diff -u -p -r1.41 fortunes
 --- fortunes B  B 20 Nov 2011 08:31:07 - B  B  B 1.41
 +++ fortunes B  B 2 Dec 2011 10:48:01 -
 @@ -10716,7 +10716,7 @@ Quick!! B Act as if nothing has happened!
 B %
 B Quick, sing me the BUDAPEST NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
 B %
 -Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
 +Quidquid latine dictum est, altum videtur.

 B (Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.)
 B %

Are you sure? It's been over fifteen years since my last Latin class,
so I cannot speak on my own authority, but a Google search with sit
yielded about 1.8 million results, while est only got me 128,000.

Re: pppoe

[Carson Chittom]

John Tate j...@johntate.org writes:

 Is there kernel level pppoe support? Or is the cybersphere filling my
 head with dreams?

$ man -k pppoe
pppoe (4) - PPP Over Ethernet protocol network interface
pppoe (8) - PPP Over Ethernet translator


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Re: makewhatis on /usr

[Carson Chittom]

Thomas de Grivel tho...@lowh.net writes:

 Hi,

 From weekly output :
 Rebuilding whatis databases:
 /usr/libexec/makewhatis: Can't create /usr/share/man/whatis.db: 
 Read-only file system

 Should not whatis.db be in /var/... ?

 From hier(7) :
 /usr/  Contains the majority of user utilities and applications.
   share/Architecture independent data files.
 man/   Manual pages.

 Is it really a manual page ?

Shouldn't the index of manual pages be with the manual pages?

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Re: Using TrinityDesktop to replace KDE3

[Carson Chittom]

Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com writes:

 That said, KDE4 is far ahead of where KDE3 is. Many former KDE3 apps
 advanced, and this gap will only get larger as time goes. KDE3 is fairly
 big, so porting it to Qt4 will take long.

Apparently they're introducing an abstraction layer[1] to allow them to
develop simultaneously for Qt 3, 4, and eventually 5, or whatever.

 That means that Trinity isn't going to have a sufficient user base, and
 as far as it has fairly limited development resources, I doubt that it
 will ever get to major release. I believe it will halt even before the
 complete OpenBSD port will be finished.

Depends on what you mean by major.  They came out with their third
release[2] yesterday.

I'm a cwm user myself, but the OSNews item caught my eye this
morning. :)


[1] http://www.osnews.com/thread?495212
[2] http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13
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Re: Dennis Ritchie

[Carson Chittom]

Jason McIntyre j...@cava.myzen.co.uk writes:


 what reference are you using for this date? at least wikipedia currently
 reports that the exact date has not been disclosed.

 if you can give me a reliable reference, i'll commit it. or, please,
 someone else take this.

The NY Times obit[1] just says that he was found dead Wednesday, i.e.,
October 12.  I wouldn't be surprised if the world at large never learned
more detail than that.

[1] 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/technology/dennis-ritchie-programming-trailblazer-dies-at-70.html
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Re: problem building kernel

[Carson Chittom]

matteo filippetto matteo.filippe...@gmail.com writes:

 (see make.log for detailed error message)

The mailing list automatically strips attachments; you have to include
them in the body of your mail.

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Re: Installing Gnome on OpenBSD 4.9

[Carson Chittom]

Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com writes:

 I think the documentation is lacking and the process is too involved
 [for installing GNOME on OpenBSD].

Really?  I've always had very good success with the following process:

1. Set PKG_PATH to something sensible
2. Add FETCH_PACKAGES=Yes to /etc/mk.conf
3. cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome  make install
4. Do whatever the install messages tell me

Re: OpenBSD ACER aspire 9300 laptop install panic

[Carson Chittom]

marc.verwe...@telenet.be writes:

 I've tried getting access to bug reports from the OpenBSD site but
 whenever I try http://www.openbsd.org/query-pr.html I get a 404 error
 back. Is there another way to query the bugs database?

My understanding is that the bug tracker is down until further notice,
partially(?) because the software sucked.  Nothing else has replaced it
because, as I understand it, everything else sucks *worse*.

Re: CDDL vs GPL and maybe some implications for BSD?

[Carson Chittom]

Daniel Villarreal yclwebmas...@gmail.com writes:

 I have to reconsider if I will ever buy another set of [Theo's] software, or
 continue to use it.

Quit whining.  Seriously, you're making us Americans look bad.

I like being an American, and specifically one from the southeast US.
There is exactly zero chance that I would ever move to Canada or Europe
(seriously, guys, that much snow is just *weird*).  But I really don't
give a damn about Theo's opinion of Americans and our mindset.  Theo and
I probably disagree on a lot of things.  But who cares?  We're not
friends.  He, and all the rest of the developers @openbsd.org, produce
an OS that I, personally, find useful--more useful than any other OS
I've tried, in fact.  As long as they keep doing that, I'll keep using
it.

I mean, seriously, do you vet the the opinions of the farmer before you
buy produce?

Re: all libc of my openbsd/i386

[Carson Chittom]

 [...]

There are many like them, but these are yours?

Freeze on sh /etc/netstart urtwn0

[Carson Chittom]

I'm having an intermittent problem on 4.9-stable.  Occasionally (four 
times now) manually (re)running


$ sudo sh /etc/netstart urtwn0

makes everything completely freeze (X, keyboard, mouse) permanently.  I 
cannot Ctl-Alt-F1 to a console.  Unfortunately, every time it's 
happened, I haven't had another computer handy to try to SSH into this 
one, so I've just held down the power button until it turns off.  I 
looked at the log files in /var/log, but to be honest, I didn't know 
what I was looking for.


Can anybody point me in the right direction?  I'll be glad to provide 
any additional information; I don't know what's relevant.  A dmesg follows.




OpenBSD 4.9-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sun Jul  3 10:20:44 CDT 2011
car...@jackson.wistly.net:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 3488284672 (3326MB)
avail mem = 3381407744 (3224MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xfcb10 (25 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 6.02 date 07/21/2010
bios0: Hewlett-Packard p6653w
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG SLIC OEMB SSDT SRAT HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCE2(S4) PCE5(S4) PCE6(S4) PCE7(S4) PCE9(S4) 
PCEA(S4) SBAZ(S4) PS2K(S3) PS2M(S3) P0PC(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) 
USB4(S3) UHC5(S3) UHC6(S3) UHC7(S3) PWRB(S3)

acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor, 3000.38 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,MWAIT,CX16,POPCNT,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 16 4MB entries fully 
associative
cpu0: DTLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 48 4MB entries fully 
associative

cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor, 3000.02 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,MWAIT,CX16,POPCNT,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 16 4MB entries fully 
associative
cpu1: DTLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 48 4MB entries fully 
associative

ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 21, 24 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCE2)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCE5)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCE6)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCE7)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCE9)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCEA)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 AMD RS780 Host rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 AMD RS780 PCIE rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 4200 rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 18 (irq 10)
drm0 at radeondrm0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 AMD RS780 PCIE rev 0x00: apic 2 int 18 
(irq 10)

pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8101E rev 0x05: RTL8168E/8111E 
(0x2c00), apic 2 int 18 (irq 10), address d4:85:64:a3:8b:de

rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 4
ahci0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 ATI SBx00 SATA rev 0x00: apic 2 int 22 
(irq 11), AHCI 1.1

scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, ST31000528AS, HP35 SCSI3 0/direct fixed
sd0: 953869MB, 512 bytes/sec, 1953525168 sec total
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 2 lun 0: hp, DVD A DH16ABLH, 3HD9 ATAPI 5/cdrom 
removable
ohci0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 ATI SB700 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 16 
(irq 7), version 1.0, legacy support
ohci1 at pci0 dev 18 function 1 ATI SB700 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 16 
(irq 7), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 18 function 2 ATI SB700 USB2 rev 0x00: apic 2 int 17 
(irq 4)

usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 ATI EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci2 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 ATI SB700 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 18 
(irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
ohci3 at pci0 dev 19 function 1 ATI SB700 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 18 
(irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci1 at pci0 dev 19 function 2 ATI SB700 USB2 rev 0x00: apic 2 int 19 
(irq 10)

usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 ATI EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
piixpm0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 ATI SBx00 SMBus rev 0x3c: SMI
iic0 at piixpm0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x51: 1GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x53: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
azalia0 at pci0 dev 20 

Re: Freeze on sh /etc/netstart urtwn0

[Carson Chittom]

On 07/21/11 19:35, Matthew Dempsky wrote:

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Carson Chittomcar...@wistly.net  wrote:

Can anybody point me in the right direction?  I'll be glad to provide any
additional information; I don't know what's relevant.  A dmesg follows.

Set ddb.console=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf and reboot.  Read ddb(4) to
figure out how to break into DDB from the console, and verify that
this works.  (Type continue to return to normal execution.)  Try to
reproduce the hang again at the console.  If you can, break into DDB
again and send the output from running trace and ps here.
Based on my experience trying to do the above and what I've found 
online, it appears that ddb doesn't work with a USB keyboard (is this 
correct?).  As this particular computer doesn't have PS/2 or serial 
ports, and the problem is intermittent, I'll just live with it, I suppose.


Thank you for your help.

Re: How does OpenBSD compare to Ubuntu Server?

[Carson Chittom]

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
 distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition).  One thing I noticed is
 that they're having a hell of a time transitioning away from the
 traditional sysvinit-based system to the Upstart event-based init
 daemon system.

With such a broad, flamebaity question, you're bound to get
some--interesting responses.  But here's my take:

Mostly I'd say that the advantage OpenBSD has over Ubuntu--or any
Linux, actually--is that in my (admittedly limited) experience, stuff
in OpenBSD doesn't get shipped until it *works*, and they don't throw
the baby out with the bathwater just for the heck of it, or because
they get bored.  How many audio thingamabobs does Linux have now?  And
that, in my view, seems to be indicative of the whole Linux
philosophy.  Especially with a server, what you're after is
*stability* not extraneous bells and whistles.

Also, the OpenBSD documentation is *excellent*--if you don't know how
to do something, you can find out.  There's at least one Linux
distribution (Crux) which at least used to actively remove
documentation from its packages.  The last time I used Ubuntu it
wasn't much better--online user forums can be helpful, but they are
not, and cannot be, a substitute for having good documentation in the
first place.

Pretty much all that is good in OpenBSD flows from those two things, I think.

Re: how to repeat messages about manual configuration

[Carson Chittom]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 05:58:29PM -0500, Jacob Meuser wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 02:34:03PM -0500, Carson Chittom wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 01:20:40PM -0500, Jay K wrote:
  
   1) There should be a way to repeat all these messages for all installed
   packages.
 Maybe there already is.
  
  $ less /var/db/pkg/*/+DISPLAY
 
 pkg_info -M is nicer

Well, he *did* say all--pkg_info -M takes a package name(s) as a mandatory
argument.  Although of course you can do

$ pkg_info -M `pkg_info -q`|less

but I don't see that that's better or worse than just paging the stuff in
/var/db/pkg

Re: how to repeat messages about manual configuration

[Carson Chittom]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 01:20:40PM -0500, Jay K wrote:

 1) There should be a way to repeat all these messages for all installed
 packages.
   Maybe there already is.

$ less /var/db/pkg/*/+DISPLAY

 3) You may wish to add /usr/local/jdk-1.6.0/man to /etc/man.conf isn't
 descriptive enough, I think,
 in that, when I looked into it, I didn't know what edit to make so I gave up.

man.conf(5) should help, I think (possibly. I haven't actually looked).

Re: sh problem or configure script problem?

[Carson Chittom]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Dave Feustel wrote:


If you want to conduct an acid test, get the source for korn shell from
korn.com, build it and then compare its scripted behavior against that


For the archives, that's kornshell.com :)  korn.com is for the band.

Re: i don't *mean* to be stupid. it just happens. need a refresher...

[Carson Chittom]

On Jun 8, 2005, at 7:19 AM, Rick Barter wrote:

I know there is a search key option to a command, but I can't remember 
which command.  make?  pkg_info?  I've tried searching the archives, 
but I can't seem to find it.  I've looked for 'find package' and 'find 
port'.  I found a package finder at http://ports.puffy.nu/?f=s, but 
this doesn't really help me remember the proper command.


cd /usr/ports
make search key=whatever