Re: How to Get the kernel-specific source or configuration of the distribution without installation

2022-04-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
rent kernel versions without installation? OpenBSD does not support different kernel versions. The only officially supported version of the kernel is GENERIC{,MP}. All users are advised to run GENERIC or GENERIC.MP. The various RAMDISK* kernel configs you will find in the above directories are installat

Re: rc.daily missing diff markers

2022-04-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Lyndon, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote on Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 02:31:55PM -0700: > Sure. It just caught my attention today because this is probably > the first time I've seen such a large batch of changes in one email > like that. Which has no doubt happened endless times in the

Re: rc.daily missing diff markers

2022-04-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Lyndon, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote on Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 09:33:57AM -0700: > In the output from the daily insecurity report run, the sections on > setuid and block device changes are missing any diff markup. The > remaining sections are fine. > > From this morning's post-7.1-upgrade run: > >

Re: support update

2022-04-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Duncan, Duncan Hart wrote on Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:28:38AM -0400: > 0 > C Australia > P Victoria > T South Yarra > Z 3141 > A PO Box 530 > O Applied OpenBSD > I Duncan Hart > M dun...@appliedopenbsd.com > U https://AppliedOpenBSD.com > B +61 3 7065 5840 > N Proactively secure application

Re: HW raid adapter - Adaptec 8405 SGL

2022-01-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Nick Holland wrote on Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 11:30:58AM -0500: > On 1/13/22 5:58 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2022-01-13, Aleksander Dzierżanowski wrote: >>> Is 'Adaptec 8405 SGL' hardware raid controller working under OpenBSD? >>> I saw there is *some* Adaptec support, but the model is

Re: Is fw_update documentation outdated?

2021-12-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alexander, Alexander wrote on Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:11:51PM +: > On 2021/12/25 18:02, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> The new fw_update shell script is not in CVS yet. >> >> This command provides a clue that could lead you to suspect the above: >> >>$ gr

Re: Is fw_update documentation outdated?

2021-12-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alexander, Alexander wrote on Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 04:07:07PM +: > I just wanted to check for new firmware versions: > > $ fw_update -n > fw_update: unknown option -- -n > usage: fw_update [-d | -D] [-av] [-p path] [driver | file ...] > > This used to work /usr/sbin/fw_update used to

Re: openbsd is shockingly good

2021-12-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, tetrahe...@danwin1210.de wrote on Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 09:37:35PM +: > I have to say I am really impressed. This is how IT should be done. My > compliments to the developers. Heh, you are evoking pleasant old memories. That's exactly how i felt shortly after a SysOp colleague made the

Re: Missing action list in lesskey man page

2021-12-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jason and Richard, Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 09:18:56PM +: > On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 07:11:01PM +0100, Richard Ulmer wrote: >> jmc@ wrote: >>> the actions do indeed match those in the command list. whether there are >>> any undocumented ones, i don;t know. i suppose

Re: Default window manager

2021-11-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, jwinnie@tilde.institute wrote on Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 04:34:48PM -0500: > I am wondering if there are plans to change the > default window manager in OpenBSD. No, i don't think there is any interest. Experience taught us that importing additional code into the base sytem is a bad idea

Re: MANPATH resets output paper setting

2021-11-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 04:05:10PM +0100: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Jan Stary wrote: >>> This is current/amd64 on a PC. >>> It seems that if MANPATH is set (to something nonempty), >>> the settings in /etc/man.conf get ignor

Re: MANPATH resets output paper setting

2021-11-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 01:24:19PM +0100: > This is current/amd64 on a PC. > It seems that if MANPATH is set (to something nonempty), > the settings in /etc/man.conf get ignored: > > $ cat /etc/man.conf > output paper a4 > > $ man -Tps true | grep

Re: Spleen with russian (maybe more) cyrillic symbols

2021-10-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Slava, Slava Voronzoff wrote on Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 03:01:26PM +0300: > I'm working right now on adding cyrillic to Spleen font. How can I later > add it to OpenBSD kernel and ports? Pull request to main font on github > (Hi, Frederic) or patch here? You cannot add it to the kernel because

Re: Are there any protection againts heisting the "shell builtin"s?

2021-09-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jim, jim hook wrote on Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 11:24:18AM +0200: > test$ cd > rmplayer > test$ > test$ type cd > cd is a function > test$ > test$ tail -4 .profile > cd() > { > echo rmplayer > } > test$ > test$ uname -mrs > OpenBSD 6.9 amd64 > test$ Those are useful features. I doubt you will

Re: Snapshot generation stalled?

2021-09-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Karel, Karel Gardas wrote on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:32:50PM +0200: > installed snapshot on amd64 week or so ago to see how it is working. > It's #195 from Aug 23. During the past few days I've checked from time > to time > with sysupgrade (with or without -s) but it always claimed I'm on

Re: Run a command on "last day of month"

2021-09-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Adam Paulukanis wrote on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:39:54PM +0200: > if today is the last day of the month, tomorrow will be 1st. That is a non-portable assumption and a trap that many people seem to fall into. For example, in the shire calendar, 1 Afterlithe (~= July) is the fourth day after

Re: support update

2021-08-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Duncan Hart wrote on Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 05:31:09PM +1000: > 0 > C Australia > P Victoria > T Melbourne > Z 3000 > A PO Box 2530 > O Applied OpenBSD > I Duncan Hart > M dun...@appliedopenbsd.com > U https://AppliedOpenBSD.com/ > B +61 3 7065 5840 > N Proactively secure web application

Re: Submitting Patches

2021-07-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ben, b...@0x1bi.net wrote on Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 01:44:41PM -0400: > I've made a patch for the Xenocara project, > and would like to submit it. So, why didn't you? This is absolutely not specific to OpenBSD: Never ask what to with patches without including them in the first message, for no

Re: /var/log/failedlogin is a binary file with a lot of null bytes?!

2021-07-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, podolica wrote on Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 12:36:05PM +: > Philip Guenther schrieb am 17. Juli 2021 um 11:09: >> That file is specific to the 'login' command, specifically the >> source file /usr/src/usr.bin/login/failedlogin.c and consists of >> an array of the 'badlogin' structure

Re: groups new

2021-07-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Stefan, committed! While committing, i added the missing "P Baden" because it appears we sort the German groups alphabetically by Land. Some might regard the following as typical ;-) for Germany: This Group is not just an informal group (like, for example, the OpenBSD project itself is),

Re: groups new

2021-07-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Stefan, Stefan Hagen wrote on Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:22:55PM +0200: > U https://uugrn.org i suspect that your web server is misconfigured; at least for me, it appears to redirect to itself: $ w3m -dump_source https://uugrn.org Redirection loop detected (https://uugrn.org/) 302 Found

Re: new support

2021-07-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Robert, nice to have a service provider in Poland, too. :-) Committed; it will show up on the OpenBSD site with a short delay. Yours, Ingo bi...@apisoft.pl wrote on Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 04:26:56PM +0200: > 0 > C Poland > P mazowieckie > T Radom > Z 26-600 > O APISOFT Sp. z o.o. > I

Re: style.9 typos

2021-07-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Claudio and Todd, Todd C. Miller wrote on Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 02:01:23PM -0600: > You are expected to know that ^I (control-I) is the tab character. > Using ^I instead of a literal tab character in the manual was > supposed to make it clear that this is a tab and not a series of > spaces but

Re: displaying and typing czech letters

2021-07-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Tomas, tomas rodr wrote on Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:58:07PM +0200: > I am currently tied by X to display the following [ latin letters with Czech accents] > Likewise the keyboard encoding is done by setxkbmap. What steps > would I have to take to achieve the same result without running X?

Re: support and consulting: new entry request

2021-06-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Navan, Navan Carson wrote on Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:08:55PM -0600: > The TLS certificate is invalid for https://obsd.solutions/. > It's for some mcafee.com names. I'm sorry, but so far, i'm unable to reproduce. When i connect to obsd.solutions with HTTPs, the following certificate is

Re: Localization of date(1) and XFCE

2021-06-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Jan Stary wrote on Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:24:15AM +0200: > On Jun 20 18:58:31, ffuen...@texto-plano.xyz wrote: >> I speak Spanish and thus I use a locale called es_CL.UTF-8. XFCE is fine >> with it. However, my date is expressed directly as it comes from date(1). >> This is confirmed by

Re: mount(8) security and symlink(7)

2021-06-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Reuben ua Brig wrote: > when OpenBSD is happy to change even man.conf We change things when all of the following hold: 1. There is a significant problem to be solved, or a significant profit to be gained. Regarding man.conf: the old format was over-engineered, wordy, hard to use,

Re: MANPAGER

2021-06-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Heinrich, Heinrich Rebehn wrote on Sun, May 30, 2021 at 10:02:41AM +0200: > I did see LESS_IS_MORE, but there were probably good reasons for > the OpenBSD devs to switch to less(1). Prosaic as it may seem, and featurism indeed feeling not too typical for OpenBSD, my reason for switching

Re: Updating user groups - deregistering Iran BSD User Group (IRBUG)

2021-01-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Faraz, Faraz Vahedi wrote on Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 08:05:32AM +: > With a heavy heart, I am writing to hereby announce the end of the > IRBUG's activities, the user group that I have been running for about > two years. Because of the current situation in Iran, the pandemic era, > and

Re: Website - Missing kstat man page

2021-01-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Daniel Jakots wrote on Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 11:19:07PM -0500: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 22:57:06 -0500, wrote: >> I came across a broken link during some pre-install research. >> >> While browsing URL https://www.openbsd.org/68.html, >> I noticed URL link on the webpage for kstat(1) generates

Re: OpenSMTPD-extras manual

2020-12-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Maksim & Edgar, Edgar Pettijohn wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 03:37:22PM -0600: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 08:02:19PM +0300, ?? wrote: >> Where can I find any manuals and examples regarding OpenSMTPD-extras? Try: $ man -k ^table- $ man table-passwd table-socketmap

Re: Making a portable version of imsg - where to find regression tests?

2020-12-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Aisha, Aisha Tammy wrote on Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 05:40:14PM -0500: > I was trying to create a small standalone portable version of the > imsg utilities for linux and I managed to get it compiling (yea!!) > and have put it on github [1]. I freely admit i didn't look at that. > It is also

Re: support new

2020-12-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Janne, Janne Johansson wrote on Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 01:23:23PM +0100: > There is some, > > "We offer the server management service. We work on the deployment and > management of servers with open source technologies such as CentOS, Debian, > FreeBSD, OpenBSD and Ubuntu Server." Fair

Re: support new

2020-12-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, AMG Labs wrote on Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:55:52PM -0300: > 0 > C Brazil > P RS > T Santo Antonio da Patrulha > Z 95500-000 > O AMG Labs > I Angelito Monteiro Goulart > A Av. Cel Victor Villa Verde 126/301 > M cont...@amglabs.net > U https://www.amglabs.net/ > B +55 51 92000 7613 > X > N We

Re: support new

2020-11-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, supo...@mdfsoftware.com.br wrote on Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 01:40:18PM -0300: > 0 > C Brazil > P Ceará > T FORTALEZA > Z 60410442 > O MDFSoftware > I Oliveira Filho, D. A. > A Av. Eduardo Girão 355 > M supo...@mdfsoftware.com.br > U http://www.mdfsoftware.com.br/ > B +55-85-9-89739017 > X

Re: development best practices

2020-11-28 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Bjoern, bjoern gohla wrote on Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 12:27:47PM +: > i'm fairly new to openbsd. and i've run into the following problem, > where i want to hack a project (most recently trying to fix a possible > issue with i3status), but building the from the git source > tree fails. > >

Re: support new

2020-11-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Emre, Emre Kal wrote on Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 04:55:55PM +0100: > If my request is rejected again, please provide me with the *objective* > reasons why I am not allowed to list my services as a OpenBSD consultant. That won't happen. > I believe I am entitled You are not entitled to

Re: support new

2020-11-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, i don't care greatly if another developer wants to add this, but i advise against it. Talking to this person is a tedious job, he seems to not understand very well what you say or to not really listen. He is also quite bad at explaining stuff and it's hard to figure out what he is driving

Re: groups new

2020-11-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Computer Planet wrote on Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 11:20:03PM +0100: > 0 > C ITALY > P Cosenza > T San Marco Argentano > F Irregular > O OpenBSD CpnetServer > I Ernesto Bellomusto > M open...@cpnetserver.net > U node51.net > N OpenBSD | *BSD Is there any evidence that this group actually exists?

Re: support new

2020-11-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Computer Planet wrote on Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 12:07:00AM +0100: > 0 > C ITALY > P Cosenza > T San Marco Argentano > Z 87018 > O Computer Planet > I Ernesto Bellomusto > A P.zza Giuseppe Garibaldi, 7 > M open...@cpnetserver.net > U http://www.node51.net/ That line seems inappropriate to me

Re: mailing list management software

2020-10-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Craig Skinner wrote on Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:26:03PM +: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:12:42 +0300 Gregory Edigarov wrote: >> is there any mailing list software which naturally supports virtual >> domains? > I've found MLMMJ rather good for multiple non-canonical domains: > >

Re: du man page

2020-10-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, a...@sdf.org wrote on Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:44:01AM +: > In du(1) it reads: > > [...] > EXAMPLES > Display a summary of files and folders in the current directory, > sorted by size: > >$ du -sh * .??* | sort -h > [...] > > This misses file names of the form .a,

Re: Using ports and updates to the release

2020-10-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ed, Ed Gray wrote on Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 07:21:32PM +0100: > I'm still fairly new to openbsd and the idea of using ports > in general rather than binary packages. You are usually better off using packages than using ports, especially as a new user. Even as an experienced user doing lots of

Re: time_t

2020-10-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter, Peter J. Philipp wrote on Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 05:47:59PM +0200: > When time_t was made, I think, positive integers meant time forwards, and > negative integers meant time backwards from epoch so that people born in > 1938 for example could be processed.

Re: time_t

2020-10-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Rodrick, Roderick wrote on Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 03:16:24PM +: > The result of time() has type time_t and we know what kind of number > goes there: seconds since 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds, January 1, > 1970, Coordinated Universal Time. > > In my FreeBSD running on a 64 bit processor

Re: OpenBSD fakeroot

2020-10-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Richard, Richard Ipsum wrote on Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 02:35:16PM +0200: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 02:21:45PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Richard Ipsum wrote on Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 01:14:07PM +0200: >>> I needed fakeroot for some tests I'm writing, >> You are no

Re: OpenBSD fakeroot

2020-10-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Richard, Richard Ipsum wrote on Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 01:14:07PM +0200: > I needed fakeroot for some tests I'm writing, You are not really explaining what it is that you actually want to do... So i'm guessing a bit: https://manpages.debian.org/buster/fakeroot/fakeroot.1.en.html says:

Re: support new

2020-10-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ottavio, Ottavio Caruso wrote on Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 10:37:22AM +0100: > On 01/10/2020 09:41, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Mischa wrote on Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:10:27PM +0200: >>> U https://openbsd.amsterdam/ >>> N Hosting OpenBSD VMs on dedicated vmm(4)/vmd(8) s

Re: support new

2020-10-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Mischa wrote on Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:10:27PM +0200: > 0 > C Netherlands > P > T Amsterdam > Z 1083 HN > O OpenBSD Amsterdam > I > A Barbara Strozzilaan 251 > M service@openbsd.amsterdam > U https://openbsd.amsterdam/ > B > X > N Hosting OpenBSD VMs on dedicated vmm(4)/vmd(8) servers.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] pledge(1): an unprivileged sandboxing tool for OpenBSD

2020-09-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Demi, Demi M. Obenour wrote on Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:51:34PM -0400: > The tool makes essential use of the execpromises argument > to pledge(2), so that it can sandbox the program it executes. This appears to conflict with the basic idea of pledge(2), which is for the *programmer* to first

Re: How do you get different $PS1 for /bin/sh and /bin/ksh?

2020-09-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ottavio, Ottavio Caruso wrote on Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 09:22:11AM +0100: > On a side note, there's no mention of startup files in sh(1) > and I wonder why. >From sh(1), second paragraph: This manual page describes only the parts relevant to a POSIX compliant sh. If portability is a

Re: home printer

2020-09-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Carson, Carson Chittom wrote on Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 09:51:45AM -0500: > Jan Stary writes: >> Can people please recommend a home laser printer >> that is known to work well with OpenBSD? >> >> I would like to avoid cups, and possibly a2ps >> and foo* and if= and all that dance >> - a printer

Re: Must disable /usr/libexec/security on backup disks

2020-09-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, Theo de Raadt wrote on Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 07:27:23AM -0600: > I am happy enough with the diff, and also dislike having a flag. > Can we get it commited Done. > and revisit the situation in 10 years? I'm sorry, i cannot promise to keep my TODO list in order for ten years, it often

Re: Must disable /usr/libexec/security on backup disks

2020-09-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Brian, Brian Brombacher wrote on Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 07:55:11AM -0400: > Love the idea; however, the only drawback is if some Bad Person > is twiddling around and leaves a suid or dev around on a file system > that is nosuid or nodev, you lose visibility. Doesn't look like a problem to me;

Re: Must disable /usr/libexec/security on backup disks

2020-09-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, Theo de Raadt wrote on Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:06:08AM -0600: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> are used for. Some such file systems may permit SUID and/or device >> files, so not checking them may be a dubious idea. > The script could identify mountpoints with s

Re: Must disable /usr/libexec/security on backup disks

2020-09-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Todd, Todd C. Miller wrote on Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 03:13:04PM -0600: > On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:17:02 -, Rupert Gallagher wrote: >> Since /usr/libexec/security runs blindly on every attached storage >> media, it also runs on mounted tape and backup data volumes. > It might be best to only

Re: fido library

2020-08-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Mihai, besides, while it is often useful to bear with newbies, a user who is no longer a bloody beginner at using computers can be expected to type simple commands without asking for help, e.g. $ cd /usr/src/ $ find . -name 'Makefile*' -exec grep lfido {} \; -print LDADD+= -lfido2

Re: exFAT support

2020-08-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi John, jo...@armadilloaerospace.com wrote on Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 04:28:53PM -0700: > I was considering making a kernel patch that reported it was > an exFATfilesystem Sounds like a layering violation. The table of file system IDs is in userland - /usr/src/sbin/fdisk/part.c - rather than in

Re: Cleaning system's old ibraries/files after update to next -release or -current

2020-07-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ottavio, Ottavio Caruso wrote on Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:28:25PM +0100: > On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 13:44, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Martin wrote on Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:11:34AM +: >>> After system update I found lots of 'old' libraries versions >>> and poss

Re: Cleaning system's old ibraries/files after update to next -release or -current

2020-07-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Martin wrote on Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:11:34AM +: > After system update I found lots of 'old' libraries versions > and possibly binaries from previous releases. > > Does anybody know an automated method to remove it after update? > For instance previous libs before update to -current.

Re: How do I get the man page for a package I haven't installed yet?

2020-06-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Eric Furman wrote on Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 07:12:33PM -0400: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Ottavio Caruso wrote: >>> Unless I've got it all wrong, will only >>> display man pages for programs and commands in base. Is there a way to >>>

Re: How do I get the man page for a package I haven't installed yet?

2020-06-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marc, Marc Espie wrote on Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:43:49PM +0200: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:20:35PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Ottavio Caruso wrote: >>> Unless I've got it all wrong, will only >>> display man pages for programs and commands in base. Is there

Re: Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi David, Dawid Czelu?niak wrote on Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:19:23PM +0200: > I am a huge fan of minimal and custom installations > as I mostly use OpenBSD to host simple HTTP servers. That's perfectly fine. These days, we consider the "minimal installation" the base file sets, including xbase.

Re: OpenBSD sysupgrade rocks

2020-05-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Bennett wrote on Wed, May 20, 2020 at 02:07:27PM -0400: > Do the work, a WIP is OK and submit a diff. Not a bad idea, put your fingers where your mouth is! > Please don't ask for features, once again. > Really, I mean it. Don't ask for features! I disagree. About one third of

Re: Why isn't src included with OpenBSD? (documentation)

2020-05-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Andras, Andras Farkas wrote on Tue, May 19, 2020 at 05:26:24PM -0400: > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:59 PM Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Can somebody work through the tutorial and confirm that everything >> still works as described with our -current vi(1)? It is too >> wordy

Re: Why isn't src included with OpenBSD? (documentation)

2020-05-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Andras, Andras Farkas wrote on Mon, May 18, 2020 at 01:07:36PM -0400: > Lots of documentation is unavailable outside of the /usr/src tree. It isn't "lots", it's only a tiny number of documents. > that the answers could be found in > Fsck_ffs - The UNIX File System Check Program > This is

Re: [www] list of associated projects: adding rpki-client

2020-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alex, Alex Naumov wrote on Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:10:47PM +0200: > since rpki-client has its own home page like other "associated projects", > it makes sense to add a new link. Committed with a tweak; i put it next to OpenBGPD. Thanks for the suggestion, Ingo > Index: index.html >

Re: TOFU/cert pinning in libtls

2020-05-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Lucas, Lucas wrote on Sat, May 09, 2020 at 06:18:50PM +: > I experimented with cert FP pinning in the past, too. tls_peer_cert_hash > is probably what you're looking for. Found it looking at > /usr/include/tls.h. Then tried to find it referenced in other manpages, > > oolong$ man -k

Re: one-character expansion in shell

2020-05-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Philipp, Philipp Buehler wrote on Wed, May 06, 2020 at 04:03:41PM +0200: > Am 06.05.2020 15:54 schrieb Ingo Schwarze: >> Your misunderstandiing is that file names consist of characters. >> They do not. They consist of bytes, and to match two bytes, >> you need two quest

Re: support

2020-05-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Chris Petrik wrote on Wed, May 06, 2020 at 11:57:30AM -0500: > 0 > C USA > P Mississippi > T Gulfport > Z 39501 > O Petrik Consulting > I Chris Petrik > A 1610 Thornton, Ave > M ch...@cpettington.com > U http://www.cpettington.com/ > B 2282650091 > X > N BSD based consulting in the

Re: one-character expansion in shell

2020-05-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Rudolf, Rudolf Sykora wrote on Wed, May 06, 2020 at 03:25:09PM +0200: > is this an expected behaviour? Yes, that is expected behaviour. > odin$ ls v?k* > ls: v?k*: No such file or directory > odin$ ls v??k* [ some file names containing two-byte UTF-8 sequences ] > odin$ locale The locale

Re: pkg_add -u: no such dir

2020-05-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Groot wrote on Tue, May 05, 2020 at 04:58:34PM +0530: > I tried updating all applications, only to be greeted with > the following message. You don't say so explicitly, but let's assume you upgraded to the latest snapshot. While that is not the final 6.7 release yet, the operating system

Re: /bin/sh echo \n

2020-04-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Martijn van Duren wrote on Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:52:38PM +0200: > On 4/26/20 12:27 PM, Thomas de Grivel wrote: >> Second I don't see this feature described neither in man sh nor man >> ksh so is it a known behaviour of ksh ? > from echo(1): > echo does not support any of the backslash

Re: More than 16 partitions

2020-04-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Strahil, Strahil Nikolov wrote on Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 11:16:41PM +0300: > And who the hell needs more than 16 partitions ? Me, and i'm quite sure many do. It's certainly not a good idea to combine any partitions that are separate in a default install because there are good reasons for all

Re: timegm()

2020-04-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Todd, Todd C. Miller wrote on Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 09:21:28PM -0600: > On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 04:21:42 +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Calling timelocal(3) deprecated makes sense to me because it is >> nothing but a trivial wrapper around mktime(3), and the latter >> i

Re: timegm()

2020-04-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Theo de Raadt wrote on Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:11:56AM -0600: > William Ahern wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 02:01:10PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:51:54AM +, Roderick wrote: Acording to the man page: "timegm() is a deprecated interface that

Re: List a package's dependencies

2020-04-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marc, Marc Espie wrote on Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 03:05:36PM +0200: > Actually, not having recursive depends easily available on an installed > package base is somewhat tedu-ish. Heh. :-) > Most specifically, it's not very useful for anything in common usage. What > would you want it for

Re: List a package's dependencies

2020-04-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Rawnsley wrote on Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:34:28PM +0100: > I am looking for a way to show a package's dependencies. As far as i know, the normal ways to do that are: # direct run dependencies only cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt; make run-depends-list cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt;

Re: Does Intel driver supports Intel g31?

2020-04-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, infoomatic wrote on Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 05:41:44PM +0200: > I suggest you read on the documentation instead of throwing one-line > questions to the mailing list. > > The documentation is excellent, just look for the information you need. > > https://man.openbsd.org/ So far, so good. >

Re: Does Intel driver supports 3d acceleration?

2020-04-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Otto, Otto Moerbeek wrote on Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:16:40PM +0200: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 03:52:34PM +0600, Nikita Stepanov wrote: >> Does Intel driver supports 3d acceleration? > What prevents you from looking up the man page and reading it? Lazyness, obviously. All the more so as i

Re: Nvidia driver for OpenBSD?

2020-04-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Christopher Turkel wrote on Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 02:49:56PM -0400: > On Friday, April 10, 2020, Nikita Stepanov wrote: >> Subject: Nvidia driver for OpenBSD? > None exist or are likely to ever exist. The question from the original poster was so imprecise and lazy that no one else bothered

Re: openbsd.org - certain https URLs downgraded to http in redirection

2020-04-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Constantine, Constantine A. Murenin wrote on Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 01:24:30PM -0500: > What you say makes no sense I wouldn't go that far; i think Aham has a point, even though it certainly isn't a critical nor an urgent problem. > for one simple reason: man.cgi (and cvsweb) moved out of

Re: Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Aisha, Aisha Tammy wrote on Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 08:54:22AM -0400: > I have been using spamd for quite a while and have been loving it. > I've seen that spamd currently only supports ipv4 and have been > wondering if it was possible to extend it to ipv6. I know that workforce > is always

Re: reviewing what is available

2020-04-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Luke, Luke A. Call wrote on Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 01:36:49PM -0600: > On 04-01 12:47, Chris Bennett wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 07:01:15AM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: >>> have you considered looking at native OpenBSD tools? >>> https://man.openbsd.org/egre.4 >> Wow! I had no idea about

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Luke, Luke A. Call wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:54:10PM -0600: > On 03-18 19:22, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Theo de Raadt wrote: >>> Ingo -- I think using man.openbsd.org as a "testbed for all possible >>> man page hierarchies" incorrect. >> It wa

Re: groups new

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Prunk wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 06:08:26PM +0100: > 0 > C Slovenia > P SI > T Ljubljana > F Irregular > O BSD User Group Slovenia > I Jan Prunk > M b...@groups.io > U https://bsdug.wordpress.com > N *BSD I suggest you resubmit when a few meetings have taken place. So far, i see

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Theo de Raadt wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:44:03PM -0600: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Jeffrey Walton wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:55:53AM -0400: >>> I assumed OpenBSD and NetBSD were collaborating and shared code >>> and docs in some places. >>

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jeffrey, Jeffrey Walton wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:55:53AM -0400: > I assumed OpenBSD and NetBSD were collaborating and shared code and > docs in some places. To a limited extent, that is true. For example, NetBSD includes mandoc(1) which is predominantly developed on OpenBSD while

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, Theo de Raadt wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:06:25AM -0600: > Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> What is the purpose of supplying man pages for the wrong operating >> system? The purpose is to make it simpler to compare how different systems work without having to jump back and forth among

Re: Start point to learn OpenBSD programming

2020-03-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Martijn, Martijn van Duren wrote on Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 09:24:26PM +0100: > On 3/16/20 9:22 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Martijn van Duren wrote on Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 08:52:54AM +0100: >>> On 3/16/20 8:23 AM, Martin wrote: >>> If you want reading materia

Re: Start point to learn OpenBSD programming

2020-03-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Martijn, Martijn van Duren wrote on Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 08:52:54AM +0100: > On 3/16/20 8:23 AM, Martin wrote: >> The best way for beginner to start with OpenbBSD programming? > This belongs on misc, so moving it there. > > My usual routine (and probably of a lot of other OpenBSD

Re: Confusing problem with CVS

2020-03-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Bennett wrote on Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 08:23:22PM -0400: > Thanks, that was helpful. > I did not think of using info cvs. I do use info at times, > just not that often. That is quite understandable. With BSD systems in general, it is both the normal case and also our goal that

Re: Confusing problem with CVS

2020-03-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Bennett wrote on Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:47:09PM -0400: > I am running -current. > > On one server, src was empty. So I did a cvs checkout. > On another server, src had older files. So I did a cvs up. > > Afterwards, inttypes.h had one size on the checkout, another size on the

Re: Wikidata:Property proposal

2020-03-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Christophe Poncy wrote on Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 11:33:23PM +0100: > There is two property proposals to review on Wikidata, one related to > NetBSD and the other to OpenBSD. > > Please see: > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/OpenBSD_port > > Any comments are very

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marc, Marc Chantreux wrote on Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 10:05:41AM +0100: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> :map K yw:E /tmp/vi.keyword.$$p!!xargs man >> >> i get: >> >> Error detected while processing function >> line 30: >> E132: Function cal

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marc, Marc Chantreux wrote on Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 07:07:37PM +0100: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 12:06:42PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: >> Alternatively, have you tried using any web searches on this topic? > i have to admit i try to avoid the web for many reasons so i try to > stick to

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
- manconf.h 22 Nov 2018 11:30:15 - 1.7 +++ manconf.h 2 Mar 2020 17:06:54 - @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ /* $OpenBSD: manconf.h,v 1.7 2018/11/22 11:30:15 schwarze Exp $ */ /* - * Copyright (c) 2011, 2015, 2017, 2018 Ingo Schwarze + * Copyright (c) 2011,2015,2017,2018,2020 Ingo Schwarze *

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ottavio, Ottavio Caruso wrote on Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:27:30AM +: > Warning: beginner here. That's OK, as long as you don't feel offended when not every idea is instantly acted on. ;-) (Actually, that applies to experienced users as well - and even to developers.) > What about

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-02-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Frank, Frank Beuth wrote on Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 04:22:27AM +: > Is the web documentation (FAQ etc) included in the base system by > default anywhere, No it isn't. I offered some years ago to translate the FAQ from HTML to mdoc(7) and to include it in /usr/share/man/faq/ such that it

Re: setxkbmap cannot completely set compose key

2020-02-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Xianwen Chen wrote on Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:37:58AM +: > I run OpenBSD 6.6 amd64. I'm trying to reproduce on OpenBSD-current. > The window manager is fvwm I'm using that, too. > with stock configuration. Well, my configuration is much less bloated than the default (125 rather than

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