Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 05:23:53PM +0200, Dries Schellekens wrote: Peter Blair wrote: Are you saying that OpenBSD is targetted as a Dom0 OS? I couldn't tell from the above mentioned links. No, I think the goal is to run OpenBSD as DomU. It seems NetBSD can run in Dom0, so OpenBSD could as well. Ideally, Dom0 should of course be running something small/minimal, and not a complete Linux/NetBSD/... like it is the case now, to keep the size of the TCB smaller. Sort of ... dom0 is also in charge of managing the physical device drivers (not Xen), so you can't just strip it down that much. The guest domain kernels are tiny however, as they only need virtual device drivers for block/network storage. The eventual plan is to get dom0 support in OpenBSD; we'll see how long it takes. -- Anil Madhavapeddy http://anil.recoil.org University of Cambridge http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: The eventual plan is to get dom0 support in OpenBSD; we'll see how long it takes. Out of curiousity, do you know how the GPL licence of Xen affects dom0 support in OpenBSD? Breeno
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: We've put up some Xen-related projects for the Google Summer of Code, and one of them of particular interest is a port of OpenBSD to Xen 3.0 as a native guest OS. Full list: http://www.xensource.com/summerofcode.html Interested hackers are encouraged to apply; it is a fun project, some NetBSD code already exists, and will be useful. I see that this project got selected: http://code.google.com/soc/xensource/about.html Let's hope this work can be included in OpenBSD after the summer. Cheers, Dries
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
That project (if/once completed) would be very useful. I just cringe at the thought of running a guestOS of openbsd under linux or Solaris ;) On 5/30/06, Dries Schellekens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: We've put up some Xen-related projects for the Google Summer of Code, and one of them of particular interest is a port of OpenBSD to Xen 3.0 as a native guest OS. Full list: http://www.xensource.com/summerofcode.html Interested hackers are encouraged to apply; it is a fun project, some NetBSD code already exists, and will be useful. I see that this project got selected: http://code.google.com/soc/xensource/about.html Let's hope this work can be included in OpenBSD after the summer. Cheers, Dries
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
Peter Blair wrote: That project (if/once completed) would be very useful. I just cringe at the thought of running a guestOS of openbsd under linux or Solaris ;) A minor detail: OpenBSD will run on the Xen virtual machine monitor and not on Linux or Windows (like VMWare). So the Linux instance (or even multiple of them) will run in parallel to the OpenBSD domain. Cheers, Dries On 5/30/06, Dries Schellekens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: We've put up some Xen-related projects for the Google Summer of Code, and one of them of particular interest is a port of OpenBSD to Xen 3.0 as a native guest OS. Full list: http://www.xensource.com/summerofcode.html Interested hackers are encouraged to apply; it is a fun project, some NetBSD code already exists, and will be useful. I see that this project got selected: http://code.google.com/soc/xensource/about.html Let's hope this work can be included in OpenBSD after the summer. Cheers, Dries
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
Are you saying that OpenBSD is targetted as a Dom0 OS? I couldn't tell from the above mentioned links. On 5/30/06, Dries Schellekens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Blair wrote: That project (if/once completed) would be very useful. I just cringe at the thought of running a guestOS of openbsd under linux or Solaris ;) A minor detail: OpenBSD will run on the Xen virtual machine monitor and not on Linux or Windows (like VMWare). So the Linux instance (or even multiple of them) will run in parallel to the OpenBSD domain. Cheers, Dries On 5/30/06, Dries Schellekens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: We've put up some Xen-related projects for the Google Summer of Code, and one of them of particular interest is a port of OpenBSD to Xen 3.0 as a native guest OS. Full list: http://www.xensource.com/summerofcode.html Interested hackers are encouraged to apply; it is a fun project, some NetBSD code already exists, and will be useful. I see that this project got selected: http://code.google.com/soc/xensource/about.html Let's hope this work can be included in OpenBSD after the summer. Cheers, Dries
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
At 10:48 AM 5/30/2006 -0400, Peter Blair wrote: That project (if/once completed) would be very useful. I just cringe at the thought of running a guestOS of openbsd under linux or Solaris ;) Runs just fine with VMWare Planer/Server under Windoze, .. however I imagine a native Xen implementation would be much smoother. Lee
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
Peter Blair wrote: Are you saying that OpenBSD is targetted as a Dom0 OS? I couldn't tell from the above mentioned links. No, I think the goal is to run OpenBSD as DomU. It seems NetBSD can run in Dom0, so OpenBSD could as well. Ideally, Dom0 should of course be running something small/minimal, and not a complete Linux/NetBSD/... like it is the case now, to keep the size of the TCB smaller. Cheers, Dries On 5/30/06, Dries Schellekens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Blair wrote: That project (if/once completed) would be very useful. I just cringe at the thought of running a guestOS of openbsd under linux or Solaris ;) A minor detail: OpenBSD will run on the Xen virtual machine monitor and not on Linux or Windows (like VMWare). So the Linux instance (or even multiple of them) will run in parallel to the OpenBSD domain. Cheers, Dries On 5/30/06, Dries Schellekens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: We've put up some Xen-related projects for the Google Summer of Code, and one of them of particular interest is a port of OpenBSD to Xen 3.0 as a native guest OS. Full list: http://www.xensource.com/summerofcode.html Interested hackers are encouraged to apply; it is a fun project, some NetBSD code already exists, and will be useful. I see that this project got selected: http://code.google.com/soc/xensource/about.html Let's hope this work can be included in OpenBSD after the summer. Cheers, Dries
Re: Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:52:35PM +0200, Dries Schellekens wrote: Peter Blair wrote: That project (if/once completed) would be very useful. I just cringe at the thought of running a guestOS of openbsd under linux or Solaris ;) A minor detail: OpenBSD will run on the Xen virtual machine monitor and not on Linux or Windows (like VMWare). So the Linux instance (or even multiple of them) will run in parallel to the OpenBSD domain. Christoph has OpenBSD running as DOMU on Xen 2.0, but DOM0 is working, too. There are more things to consider. Contact me for details if you are interested. -m
Xen/OpenBSD Summer of Code project
We've put up some Xen-related projects for the Google Summer of Code, and one of them of particular interest is a port of OpenBSD to Xen 3.0 as a native guest OS. Full list: http://www.xensource.com/summerofcode.html Interested hackers are encouraged to apply; it is a fun project, some NetBSD code already exists, and will be useful. -- Anil Madhavapeddy http://anil.recoil.org XenSource http://www.xensource.com
