Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-19 Thread Henning Brauer
* Christer Solskogen christer.solsko...@gmail.com [2011-10-18 21:47]: Random is pretty fast on OpenBSD then. I have a 2010 Macbook Pro with OSX (Lion) which does about 13MB/s. An a much older machine (with a much slower cpu) with OpenBSD which does 65MB/s. stop spreading lies, everybody knows

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-10-18, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: I heard that since 4.9, there has been some changes to the /dev/randoms in OpenBSD. I'm unsure of what the changes exactly are, but for confidentiality in terms of entire hard drives (talking terabytes of SATAII hard drives), would

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread James Hozier
From: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 12:53 AM I heard that since 4.9, there has been some changes to the /dev/randoms in OpenBSD. I'm unsure

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
In any case, I'm getting just under 600KB/s on average with /dev/random. This is on a rather old machine, so I guess it's not too bad. I am getting 9MB/sec on a zaurus (416 MHz xscale arm). If my math is right, you would see 600KB/sec on a 10 MHz Xeon. Yes, I said MHz.

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Paul D. Ouderkirk
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: In any case, I'm getting just under 600KB/s on average with /dev/random. This is on a rather old machine, so I guess it's not too bad. I am getting 9MB/sec on a zaurus (416 MHz xscale arm). Just so everyone is on

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: In any case, I'm getting just under 600KB/s on average with /dev/random. This is on a rather old machine, so I guess it's not too bad. I am getting 9MB/sec on a zaurus (416 MHz xscale arm). Just so

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread vovka
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 14:12, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.orgwrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: In any case, I'm getting just under 600KB/s on average with /dev/random. This is on a rather old machine, so I guess it's not too

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Johan Ryberg
2011/10/18 vovka net.v...@gmail.com: I am getting on average a weighted speed of approximately 80MB/sec I got 116MB/sec on a HP DL360 G7 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5335 @ 2.00GHz, 2000.37 MHz with 4.9 amd64 if that's interesting for someone for some kind of reference. -- Johan

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: In any case, I'm getting just under 600KB/s on average with /dev/random. This is on a rather old machine, so I guess it's not too bad.

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread vovka
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 15:46, Christer Solskogen christer.solsko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: In any case, I'm getting just under

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread James Hozier
From: Paul D. Ouderkirk p...@ouderkirk.ca Subject: Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom To: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Cc: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com, misc@openbsd.org Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 5:41 PM On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread James Hozier
From: Paul D. Ouderkirk p...@ouderkirk.ca Subject: Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom To: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Cc: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com, misc@openbsd.org Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 5:41 PM On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:55 PM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Paul D. Ouderkirk p...@ouderkirk.ca Subject: Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom To: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Cc: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com, misc@openbsd.org Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: In any case, I'm getting just under 600KB/s on average with /dev/random. This is on a rather old machine, so I guess it's not too

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Nick Holland
On 10/18/11 16:47, James Hozier wrote: I'm doing dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/wd0c and your bottleneck was anything but uh...(/dev/)random. :) Doing it that way, you can't even push zeros out rapidly. Add a block size flag. Long ago, someone who should know assured me (or maybe the mail list?)

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-18 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 01:47:59PM -0700, James Hozier wrote: I'm doing dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/wd0c Never use the block device for anything other than mounting. Also, specify a block size. Something like dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/rwd0c bs=64k The r is really important. Play with the

/dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-17 Thread James Hozier
I heard that since 4.9, there has been some changes to the /dev/randoms in OpenBSD. I'm unsure of what the changes exactly are, but for confidentiality in terms of entire hard drives (talking terabytes of SATAII hard drives), would /dev/srandom still be the best suitable for this task? Last I

Re: /dev/srandom vs. /dev/arandom

2011-10-17 Thread Theo de Raadt
I heard that since 4.9, there has been some changes to the /dev/randoms in OpenBSD. I'm unsure of what the changes exactly are, but for confidentiality in terms of entire hard drives (talking terabytes of SATAII hard drives), would /dev/srandom still be the best suitable for this task? There