Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-21 Thread Lars Noodén
Chris wrote: ... Is there any way I could convince these people to make the move to OpenBSD? Suggestions, tips and tricks along with real life examples would be much appreciated. Thanks. Be seen using it ...and let them think they figured out on their own that you are. If you have to bring

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-21 Thread Matt
Chris schreef: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who can

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-21 Thread Stuart VanZee
From: Chris Subject: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I

[OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Chris
I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who can use (or even heard

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread bofh
If they resist change, you have no hope. When I have implemented OpenBSD, it is because I needed to do something quickly, and am supporting it myself. I have set up DNS, reverse proxies, web servers, jabber, application (tomcat) servers, ntp, and others this way. War stories will never convince

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
On 3/20/08, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave the job, it would

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
On 3/20/08, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After that, I've documented every maintenance task. That way your manager can be confident that, when a truck hits you, anyone can get the documentation and keep maintaining the thing. Anyone with a Unix/Unix-like

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread bofh
Oh yeah, I almost implemented nedi at the last place too. That would have been sweet. On 3/20/08, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they resist change, you have no hope. When I have implemented OpenBSD, it is because I needed to do something quickly, and am supporting it myself. I have

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Richard Daemon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread System Administrator
On 20 Mar 2008 at 20:33, Richard Daemon wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Chris escreveu: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Gary Thornock
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Nick Holland
Chris wrote: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who can