Re: 12-hour vs. 24-hour clock format

2022-02-23 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/23/22 17:58, Laura Smith wrote: a lot of peole don't do 24 hour clocks well. For almost everyone outside North America, 24 hour clocks is the *only* thing they do. A bit like the weird American affection for m/d/y. ;-) Here in Germany, Bavaria at least, most people are using 12h co

Re: 12-hour vs. 24-hour clock format

2022-02-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
So you want this command to behave differently in different environments? Who wants that unpredicabtility? I suspect noone wants that. Your reference to POSIX is irrelevant because "w" is not a POSIX command. Furthermore that feature creep in POSIX locales is not done by most programs which do 2

Re: 12-hour vs. 24-hour clock format

2022-02-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
Svyatoslav Mishyn wrote: > just wondering why are some programs using 12-hour/24-hour clock format > by default? > > For instance, 12-hour clock format: > w(1)/uptime(1) > Should it be fixed? We do not have a firm rule that all programs must use 24-hour clock, and I don't think we should creat

Re: 12-hour vs. 24-hour clock format

2022-02-22 Thread Nick Holland
On 2/22/22 3:02 PM, Svyatoslav Mishyn wrote: Hi, just wondering why are some programs using 12-hour/24-hour clock format by default? For instance, 12-hour clock format: w(1)/uptime(1) Should it be fixed? 24-hour clock format: date(1) ls(1) stat(1) systat(1) top(1) Well... keep in mind, if t