Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-12 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 01:21:09PM -0800, T D wrote:
 I'm not sure...I didn't think it had more than one, I will have to look into
 this.
 There are no extra cards on the system (only a rj45) - the motherboard
 wouldn't have more than one music built in would it?.

unlikely

 Think I better check what board it is and look up the specs.
 CDs play well.

then you can probably just 'disable clcs' in UKC without issue.
but depending how you played the CD, it could just be using the
mixer and he DAC is not working.

 
 
 --- On Mon, 10/11/08, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 4.4 recently installed
  To: misc@openbsd.org
  Received: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 4:27 PM
  On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:39:17PM -0500, Nick Holland
  wrote:
   T D wrote:
Hi all,
   
I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva)
  with the below dmesg output.
As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like
  some sugestions as to what I
could/should do with this box and no I will not
  rm -rf /
Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
  
   I presume, your question is, not what can I do
  with this now
   that I have it installed, but rather, how
  can I fix this
   problem:
   ...
clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus
  Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
irq 3
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
   ,,,
   (and so on annoyingly)
  
   Correct?
  
   If so, the easy way out is probably to use
  ukc to disable the
   clcs0 device (see faq5.html).  You will lose the
  ability to play
   audio on this thing.
 
  there is also a wss(4) attaching later.  this thing really
  has two
  audio devices?
 
  http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#audioprob
 
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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-11 Thread T D
I'm not sure...I didn't think it had more than one, I will have to look into
this.
There are no extra cards on the system (only a rj45) - the motherboard
wouldn't have more than one music built in would it?.
Think I better check what board it is and look up the specs.
CDs play well.


--- On Mon, 10/11/08, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 4.4 recently installed
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Received: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 4:27 PM
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:39:17PM -0500, Nick Holland
 wrote:
  T D wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva)
 with the below dmesg output.
   As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like
 some sugestions as to what I
   could/should do with this box and no I will not
 rm -rf /
   Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 
  I presume, your question is, not what can I do
 with this now
  that I have it installed, but rather, how
 can I fix this
  problem:
  ...
   clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus
 Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
   irq 3
   clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
   clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
  ,,,
  (and so on annoyingly)
 
  Correct?
 
  If so, the easy way out is probably to use
 ukc to disable the
  clcs0 device (see faq5.html).  You will lose the
 ability to play
  audio on this thing.

 there is also a wss(4) attaching later.  this thing really
 has two
 audio devices?

 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#audioprob

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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-11 Thread T D
Thanks for all the replies.
Have given me many things to think about and even to go find out more about
the system.
Will look into the sound.
At the moment it seems to be working well, cds play :-}


--- On Mon, 10/11/08, T D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: T D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 4.4 recently installed
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Received: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 11:34 AM
 Hi all,

 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the
 below dmesg output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some
 sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 Thanks
 Tom


 OpenBSD 4.4 (GENERIC) #1021: Tue Aug 12 17:16:55 MDT 2008

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX (GenuineIntel
 586-class) 226 MHz
 cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
 cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
 real mem  = 67723264 (64MB)
 avail mem = 56033280 (53MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/15/98, BIOS32 rev.
 0 @ 0xfd841
 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf40/176 (9
 entries)
 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 (SiS
 85C503 System rev 0x00)
 pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000
 cpu0 at mainbus0
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 5597/5598
 Host rev 0x02
 pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 85C503
 System rev 0x01
 pciide0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 SiS 5513 EIDE
 rev 0xd0: 5597/5598: DMA,
 channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured
 to compatibility
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST310211A
 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9541MB, 19541088 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7
 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: , ATAPI CDROM., 13AY
 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
 cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 ohci0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 SiS 5597/5598
 USB rev 0x10: irq 10, version
 1.0, legacy support
 vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Trident 3DImage
 9750 rev 0xf3
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 drm at vga1 unsupported
 rl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev
 0x10: irq 7, address
 00:e0:4c:02:20:ca
 rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
 clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610
 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
 irq 3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=2
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=4
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=5
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=6
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=7
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=8
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=9
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=10
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=11
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=12
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=13
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=14
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=15
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=16
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=17
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=18
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=19
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=20
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=21
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=22
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=23
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=24
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=25
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=26
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=27
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=28
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=29
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=30
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=31
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=32
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=33
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=34
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=35
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=36
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=37
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=38
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=39
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=40
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=41
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=42
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=43
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=44
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=45
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=46
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=47
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=48
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=49
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=50
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=51
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=52
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=53
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=54
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=55
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=56
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=57
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=58
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=59
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=60
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=61
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=62
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=63
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=64
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=65
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=66
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=67
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=68
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=69
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=70
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt

Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-11 Thread Mike Swanson

Nick Holland wrote:

As I recall, these Aptiva machines were quirky as heck, on a
LOT of OSs.
Ah yes... Aptiva isn't the only brand like this.  I've encountered a few 
of them from time to time, and the experience usually varies.  Heck I've 
seen machines that fail to run their shipped copy of MS Windows properly 
(I mean even to the limited extent that Windows is supposed to run anyway).


In fact, I have one such box right here at home.  It has a Windows XP 
sticker on the front, but WinXP from either the recovery discs or a 
non-OEM-infested disc fails epically, and most Linux distros can't even 
run X.Org on it (at least not automagically, I never bothered trying to 
see if I can manually fix it in xorg.conf).  Right now it runs OpenBSD 
4.4 headless, its only current purpose is a permanent IRC session 
(ssh+screen+irssi: wonderful!), though I've tried it out, and OpenBSD's 
Xenocara runs perfectly without any manual xorg.conf configuration, and 
all the other hardware works perfectly; beats all the Linux distros.  :)




Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-10 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium

From: Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2008/11/10 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Put in a couple of big hard drives (I don't know what's there already)
and use it as network storage (backup your other computers).


And then wonder why it crashes when it does the first fsck. :-(
AFAIK 64M will only allow you to fsck 64GB.

Seriously: Get yourself a new machine if you can. It will be much
faster and consume less power.
I'd second that.. Whilst I get the occasional desire  for Old Computer Kit 
and some old computers have a few neat features, generally there really 
isn't much to compete with a decent Core2Duo/Quad box - it's not that 
expensive, is low power, fast and supports virtualisation. I can say that 
considering I also run OpenBSD on a sparcstation 10 and an SGI O2..(*)


I do have a 266MHz Pentium thin client running an embedded OpenBSD firewall; 
I wouldn't necessarily recommend that in your case as yours won't be fanless 
or consume minimal power. I also have a 486 DX2-66 as a bittorrent box - 
that actually runs NT 4. Much though I like OpenBSD at times, it's far more 
effective to add the large disk driver and run utorrent.


If you must use your box it'll perform adequately for network based 
operations - mail, web servers, pf, etc etc. It's a bit underpowered for 
modern X although you should at least be able to run multiple X terms. 
Compilation times on older kit tend to be painful.


(*) The O2 has some nice video hardware - which is useless in anything other 
than Irix. The sparcstation has a decent boot monitor, and a cheap multiport 
10Mb network card available - which is useless now ADSL goes faster than 
10Mb. The O2 uses SCA disks which are still available, if a lot more 
expensive than SATA. The sparcstation uses narrow SCSI disks which are now 
defunct, loud and slow. There are workarounds for all of this, but running 
modern kit really is a lot easier.


PK 



Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/11/10 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Put in a couple of big hard drives (I don't know what's there already)
 and use it as network storage (backup your other computers).

And then wonder why it crashes when it does the first fsck. :-(
AFAIK 64M will only allow you to fsck 64GB.

Seriously: Get yourself a new machine if you can. It will be much
faster and consume less power.

Best
   Martin



4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread T D
Hi all,

I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
Thanks
Tom


OpenBSD 4.4 (GENERIC) #1021: Tue Aug 12 17:16:55 MDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX (GenuineIntel 586-class) 226 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
real mem  = 67723264 (64MB)
avail mem = 56033280 (53MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/15/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd841
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf40/176 (9 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 (SiS 85C503 System rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 Host rev 0x02
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x01
pciide0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0xd0: 5597/5598: DMA,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST310211A
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9541MB, 19541088 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: , ATAPI CDROM., 13AY ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
ohci0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x10: irq 10, version
1.0, legacy support
vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Trident 3DImage 9750 rev 0xf3
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
drm at vga1 unsupported
rl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 7, address
00:e0:4c:02:20:ca
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
irq 3
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=2
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=3
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=4
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=5
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=6
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=7
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=8
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=9
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=10
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=11
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=12
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=13
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=14
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=15
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=16
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=17
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=18
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=19
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=20
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=21
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=22
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=23
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=24
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=25
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=26
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=27
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=28
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=29
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=30
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=31
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=32
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=33
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=34
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=35
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=36
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=37
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=38
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=39
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=40
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=41
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=42
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=43
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=44
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=45
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=46
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=47
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=48
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=49
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=50
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=51
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=52
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=53
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=54
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=55
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=56
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=57
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=58
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=59
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=60
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=61
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=62
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=63
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=64
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=65
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=66
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=67
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=68
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=69
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=70
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=71
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=72
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=73
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=74
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=75
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=76
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=77
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=78
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=79
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=80
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=81
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=82
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=83
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=84
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=85
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=86
clear_fifo: fist timeout 

Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread new_guy
T D wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg
 output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 Thanks
 Tom
 

Are you serious? Let's see... we use OpenBSD for subversion repositories,
web servers, dhcp servers, smtp servers, firewall, Gmail backup, development
workstations, etc. The sky is the limit. If you have no idea what to do with
this operating system, then you have no reason to install it. The least you
could do is take this opportunity (as you already have OpenBSD installed) to
learn a bit about Unix. Read man pages, write shell scripts, learn how to
accomplish common admin tasks, apply patches, etc.

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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Marcel Dan
In my opinion, OpenBSD is a great desktop OS too.

http://nwvd.net/chess/OpenBSD4.4_screenshot.png

For older laptops the slim login  manager and xfce or fvwm2 work well.

Marcel

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:34 PM, T D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 Thanks
 Tom


 OpenBSD 4.4 (GENERIC) #1021: Tue Aug 12 17:16:55 MDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX (GenuineIntel 586-class) 226 MHz
 cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
 cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
 real mem  = 67723264 (64MB)
 avail mem = 56033280 (53MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/15/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd841
 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf40/176 (9 entries)
 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 (SiS 85C503 System rev 0x00)
 pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000
 cpu0 at mainbus0
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 Host rev 0x02
 pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x01
 pciide0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0xd0: 5597/5598: DMA,
 channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to
 compatibility
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST310211A
 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9541MB, 19541088 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7
 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: , ATAPI CDROM., 13AY ATAPI 5/cdrom
 removable
 cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 ohci0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x10: irq 10,
 version
 1.0, legacy support
 vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Trident 3DImage 9750 rev 0xf3
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 drm at vga1 unsupported
 rl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 7, address
 00:e0:4c:02:20:ca
 rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
 clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
 irq 3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=2
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=4
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=5
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=6
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=7
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=8
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=9
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=10
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=11
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=12
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=13
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=14
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=15
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=16
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=17
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=18
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=19
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=20
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=21
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=22
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=23
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=24
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=25
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=26
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=27
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=28
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=29
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=30
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=31
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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:34:41PM -0800, T D wrote:
 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.

My experience on older boxes (older than yours) suggests that your box
would be good for just about anything.  So rather than saying what to
use it for, here's my guess at its limitations:

heavy-duty web browsing (lots of graphics, lots of tabs) needs lots of
memory.  Perhaps add up to the system max (whatever it is on that box).

It probably won't be good at editing video.  I find editing photos
tedius on my 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram.  You may be OK there.

Put in a couple of big hard drives (I don't know what's there already)
and use it as network storage (backup your other computers).

If you plain don't need the computer and only installed OpenBSD to see
if the box works, then give the box to someone who needs it.

Doug.



Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Nick Holland
T D wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.

I presume, your question is, not what can I do with this now
that I have it installed, but rather, how can I fix this
problem:
...
 clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
 irq 3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
,,,
(and so on annoyingly)

Correct?

If so, the easy way out is probably to use ukc to disable the
clcs0 device (see faq5.html).  You will lose the ability to play
audio on this thing.

(see FAQ 5 for more on using ukc)

I've got an IBM laptop which does this once in a very long while,
I..uh..never thought to let the thing keep counting, I guess I
figured it was probably a really big thing like a 32 bit integer.
Now I guess I look forward to the next time it does it on mine!
Up to this point, because it always happens only when I don't
have time to deal with it, I just shut it off back on, and the
next time, it usually works just fine.

You could also try poking pcibios with various flags (using
ukc again), see if that helps you.  This would allow you to
actually use the sound IF IT WORKS.

As I recall, these Aptiva machines were quirky as heck, on a
LOT of OSs.  From memory, the power management was a bit overly
aggressive, might want to make sure it is COMPLETELY disabled in
the BIOS if you find your machine turning itself off (or some
other form of equally unproductive power savings) in the
middle of work. :)  (On the other hand...you may not see that
problem, I don't recall if I ever ran OpenBSD on an Aptiva of
your vintage...)

hm. speaking of BIOS, might want to dig around in there to see
if there were any options which might have it run better for
you.  Check power management, PNP OS Installed? and things like
that.  Don't ask what the right value is, change what you can
it might help.  or not.

Nick.



Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:39:17 -0500, Nick Holland wrote:

As I recall, these Aptiva machines were quirky as heck, on a
LOT of OSs.

When I taught courses for IBM (Websphere, OS/2, linux, etc) we had lots
of those in classrooms. They usually obtained a prefix CR if you know
what I mean.
{Big evil grin}

I could never figure out how the one company could produce Thinkpads
and cr^H^H Aptivas in the one division. Love my TP.

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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:39:17PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
 T D wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
  As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
  could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
  Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 
 I presume, your question is, not what can I do with this now
 that I have it installed, but rather, how can I fix this
 problem:
 ...
  clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
  irq 3
  clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
  clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
 ,,,
 (and so on annoyingly)
 
 Correct?
 
 If so, the easy way out is probably to use ukc to disable the
 clcs0 device (see faq5.html).  You will lose the ability to play
 audio on this thing.

there is also a wss(4) attaching later.  this thing really has two
audio devices?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#audioprob

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