Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-09-07, Lars Engblom lars.engb...@kimitotelefon.fi wrote: I think the issue is more about space than bandwidth. No, it's about bandwidth, first from the build machines to the main distribution site (fanout), and then from the fanout to mirrors. Between them, amd64 and i386 packages take

Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-07 Thread Lars Engblom
) To: Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com Cc: Lars Engblom lars.engb...@kimitotelefon.fi,misc misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: A suggestion for snapshots On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Lars Engblom lars.engb...@kimitotelefon.fiwrote: Quite often the snapshot of the packages and the base system are out

Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-07 Thread STeve Andre'
On 09/06/13 23:13, Theo de Raadt wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Lars Engblom lars.engb...@kimitotelefon.fiwrote: Quite often the snapshot of the packages and the base system are out of sync, because naturally, the base has to be built before packages. For example in this moment, as I

A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Engblom
Quite often the snapshot of the packages and the base system are out of sync, because naturally, the base has to be built before packages. For example in this moment, as I write this, Firefox can not be installed in a new system installed from snapshots, as the packages are compiled against

Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 03:14:44PM +0300, Lars Engblom wrote: For example in this moment, as I write this, Firefox can not be installed in a new system installed from snapshots, as the packages are compiled against an older snapshot (amd64) Known issue. If there are just space on the ftp

Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-06 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 06:59:29PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: There are also bottlenecks in fanning out from the actual build machines. Ports bulk builders are aware of the issues. These take time to solve. Would additional fast build machines help? Is that a large part of the problem? Bryan

Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 01:19:02PM -0700, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 06:59:29PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: There are also bottlenecks in fanning out from the actual build machines. Ports bulk builders are aware of the issues. These take time to solve. Would additional

Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-06 Thread Amit Kulkarni
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Lars Engblom lars.engb...@kimitotelefon.fiwrote: Quite often the snapshot of the packages and the base system are out of sync, because naturally, the base has to be built before packages. For example in this moment, as I write this, Firefox can not be installed

Re: A suggestion for snapshots

2013-09-06 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Lars Engblom lars.engb...@kimitotelefon.fiwrote: Quite often the snapshot of the packages and the base system are out of sync, because naturally, the base has to be built before packages. For example in this moment, as I write this, Firefox can not be