Re: Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
pedro la peu wrote: Alexander Hall wrote: Anyway, you don't happen to know any retailers that ship world-wide (or at least Sweden-wide), with decent shipping costs? They were easy to find in Europe quite recently. Have you seen: http://www.plextor-europe.com/wheretobuy/all/dealers.asp?choice=Dealerscountry=Sweden Yes, but all of the retailers I visited only sold other Plextor products (e.g. DVD+-RW etc), but no PX-EH*'s... While at the subject, are the Plextor's really as useless for serving files as sometimes stated? Depends what you expect. Makes a terrific media store for me with the one caveat that it can't sustain writes to NFS fast enough for DVB recording. Playback is fine. Audio (at high bit rates) presents no problems at all. Typically, I see roughly similar to: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/nfs/sh/tv/testfile bs=1M count=100 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 169.636 seconds, 618 kB/s $ dd if=/nfs/sh/tv/testfile of=/dev/null bs=1M 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 41.8412 seconds, 2.5 MB/s Ok, really no seatbelt required then... :-) But for occasional documents (and softdep and caching) I could most probably live with that. The two drives I'm aiming to buy are supposed to form a geographically separated, rsync'd, storage pair. Mainly for documents, i.e. no streaming video or so. Samba and nfs comes to mind, but really not much more. I'd estimate at most two simultaneous users but probably less. :-) NFS and rsync are fine but there's no samba, yet. Oh. That's bad news. I would really like to use the nas from a few windows clients as well... And then, samba is the easy way... I studied the NOT_FOR_ARCHS flags in the ports tree and only noticed a few ports (samba not included) that, from what I could see, would not compile on landisk, but maybe the tree is not entirely updated in this sense, waiting for shared libs on landisk... Is the bottleneck a slow processor, the hard drive, lousy I/O or something else? Don't know, don't care. :-) Fair enough.
Re: Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:31:11 pm Diana Eichert wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Alexander Hall wrote: SNIP Oh. That's bad news. I would really like to use the nas from a few windows clients as well... And then, samba is the easy way... I studied the NOT_FOR_ARCHS flags in the ports tree and only noticed a few ports (samba not included) that, from what I could see, would not compile on landisk, but maybe the tree is not entirely updated in this sense, waiting for shared libs on landisk... The toolchain does not support dynamic libs, drahn@ added support which triggered a bug, so dynamic linking support was removed. I know I couldn't install python because it wouldn't build static. I believe that is related to why Samba won't build, but that is a WAG on my part. diana The Western Digitial My Book World-II's, have an ARM-9 core and other appropriate looking bits. Is anyone looking at a port to that platform? jon.
Re: Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Alexander Hall wrote: While at the subject, are the Plextor's really as useless for serving files In my experience, yes! -- Antoine
Re: Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
Alexander Hall wrote: Anyway, you don't happen to know any retailers that ship world-wide (or at least Sweden-wide), with decent shipping costs? They were easy to find in Europe quite recently. Have you seen: http://www.plextor-europe.com/wheretobuy/all/dealers.asp?choice=Dealerscountry=Sweden While at the subject, are the Plextor's really as useless for serving files as sometimes stated? Depends what you expect. Makes a terrific media store for me with the one caveat that it can't sustain writes to NFS fast enough for DVB recording. Playback is fine. Audio (at high bit rates) presents no problems at all. Typically, I see roughly similar to: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/nfs/sh/tv/testfile bs=1M count=100 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 169.636 seconds, 618 kB/s $ dd if=/nfs/sh/tv/testfile of=/dev/null bs=1M 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 41.8412 seconds, 2.5 MB/s The two drives I'm aiming to buy are supposed to form a geographically separated, rsync'd, storage pair. Mainly for documents, i.e. no streaming video or so. Samba and nfs comes to mind, but really not much more. I'd estimate at most two simultaneous users but probably less. :-) NFS and rsync are fine but there's no samba, yet. Is the bottleneck a slow processor, the hard drive, lousy I/O or something else? Don't know, don't care. :-)
Re: Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, pedro la peu wrote: Depends what you expect. Makes a terrific media store for me with the one caveat that it can't sustain writes to NFS fast enough for DVB recording. Playback is fine. Audio (at high bit rates) presents no problems at all. probably not directly related to OpenBSD, but, what are you using to get DVB? terrestrial or satellite? Typically, I see roughly similar to: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/nfs/sh/tv/testfile bs=1M count=100 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 169.636 seconds, 618 kB/s $ dd if=/nfs/sh/tv/testfile of=/dev/null bs=1M 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 41.8412 seconds, 2.5 MB/s diana
Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
Hi all!
I've been looking around for the Plextor PX-EH{16,25,40}'s lately and
discovered that they seem to be on the way out, if available at all. At
least on the Swedish sites.
Is there any new OpenBSD compatible landisk-like hardware available,
other than that listed on landisk.html?
(does not have to be restricted to OpenBSD/landisk, though)
/Alexander
Re: Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Alexander Hall wrote:
Hi all!
I've been looking around for the Plextor PX-EH{16,25,40}'s lately and
discovered that they seem to be on the way out, if available at all. At least
on the Swedish sites.
Is there any new OpenBSD compatible landisk-like hardware available, other
than that listed on landisk.html?
(does not have to be restricted to OpenBSD/landisk, though)
/Alexander
Plextor PX-EH h/w has been and is still readily available in the US,
though it has been heavily discounted recently at certain online
retailers.
diana
Re: Any new OpenBSD/landisk hardware?
Diana Eichert wrote:
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Alexander Hall wrote:
Hi all!
I've been looking around for the Plextor PX-EH{16,25,40}'s lately and
discovered that they seem to be on the way out, if available at all.
At least on the Swedish sites.
Is there any new OpenBSD compatible landisk-like hardware available,
other than that listed on landisk.html?
(does not have to be restricted to OpenBSD/landisk, though)
/Alexander
Plextor PX-EH h/w has been and is still readily available in the US,
though it has been heavily discounted recently at certain online
retailers.
diana
That scares me a little, since if there will be no hardware available, I
guess the development of obsd/landisk will eventually come to an end.
Well, thinking of it, I guess the sh4 could have other uses than serving
landisk's.
Anyway, you don't happen to know any retailers that ship world-wide (or
at least Sweden-wide), with decent shipping costs? I looked around a bit
and it seems to me that most of them are only targeting the US market.
Of course, I may be totally blind.
While at the subject, are the Plextor's really as useless for serving
files as sometimes stated? The two drives I'm aiming to buy are supposed
to form a geographically separated, rsync'd, storage pair. Mainly for
documents, i.e. no streaming video or so. Samba and nfs comes to mind,
but really not much more. I'd estimate at most two simultaneous users
but probably less. :-)
Is the bottleneck a slow processor, the hard drive, lousy I/O or
something else?
Thanks,
/Alexander
