Re: Audio codec support for new(er) Framework laptops?

2021-10-29 Thread Avalon
Thank you! :)

On October 29, 2021 4:31:29 AM CDT, Alexandre Ratchov  wrote:
>On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 09:13:57AM +, aval...@posteo.net wrote:
>> Hi Misc!
>> 
>> Does anyone know whether the Tempo 92HD95B audio codec is supported?
>> 
>> https://temposemi.com/products/pclaptop-hd/92hd95/
>> 
>> I'm considering getting the Framework laptop and Joshua Stein's
>website
>> indicates that at this point, it's pretty well supported
>> 
>> https://jcs.org/2021/08/06/framework
>> 
>> But Framework is changing audio codecs on their next batches of
>> machines.
>> 
>> https://frame.work/blog/solving-for-silicon-shortages
>> 
>> Thus far, I haven't been able to find a way to check whether the new
>> audio chip is supported, as "fully supported in both Windows and
>Linux"
>> doesn't actually say much, and Tempo's answer to "how do I get a
>driver"
>> is "Ask our OEM partner that actually made the computer in question"
>> 
>> I *have* identified that the chip is compatible with Intel's HD audio
>> interface, so from what I'm reading in azalia's man page, I think it
>> *should* have support already under azalia, but I'll admit, the
>> technical specs go a bit over my head.
>> 
>> If anyone can clarify this for me, I'd really appreciate it.
>> 
>
>Short answer: virtually any HDA codec is supported and there are good
>chances that sound will just work on this laptop.
>
>Long answer: The HDA spec. allows the driver (i.e. azalia(4)) to
>control all HDA-compatible codecs in a uniform way, so any past or
>future codec is supposed to just work with the current driver,
>provided the codec is HDA compatible.
>
>There are rare hardware bugs or "creative" ways of connecting the
>codec to the HDA host that cause problems, most of them are handled by
>quirks in the azalia(4) driver.
>
>There are few laptops that have HDA codecs that require firmware to
>make advanced features work.  Certain recent laptops come with
>microphones that are not physically connected to the HDA codec
>(instead they use a secondary audio device OpenBSD doesn't support
>yet).

-- 
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Re: Audio codec support for new(er) Framework laptops?

2021-10-29 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 09:13:57AM +, aval...@posteo.net wrote:
> Hi Misc!
> 
> Does anyone know whether the Tempo 92HD95B audio codec is supported?
> 
> https://temposemi.com/products/pclaptop-hd/92hd95/
> 
> I'm considering getting the Framework laptop and Joshua Stein's website
> indicates that at this point, it's pretty well supported
> 
> https://jcs.org/2021/08/06/framework
> 
> But Framework is changing audio codecs on their next batches of
> machines.
> 
> https://frame.work/blog/solving-for-silicon-shortages
> 
> Thus far, I haven't been able to find a way to check whether the new
> audio chip is supported, as "fully supported in both Windows and Linux"
> doesn't actually say much, and Tempo's answer to "how do I get a driver"
> is "Ask our OEM partner that actually made the computer in question"
> 
> I *have* identified that the chip is compatible with Intel's HD audio
> interface, so from what I'm reading in azalia's man page, I think it
> *should* have support already under azalia, but I'll admit, the
> technical specs go a bit over my head.
> 
> If anyone can clarify this for me, I'd really appreciate it.
> 

Short answer: virtually any HDA codec is supported and there are good
chances that sound will just work on this laptop.

Long answer: The HDA spec. allows the driver (i.e. azalia(4)) to
control all HDA-compatible codecs in a uniform way, so any past or
future codec is supposed to just work with the current driver,
provided the codec is HDA compatible.

There are rare hardware bugs or "creative" ways of connecting the
codec to the HDA host that cause problems, most of them are handled by
quirks in the azalia(4) driver.

There are few laptops that have HDA codecs that require firmware to
make advanced features work.  Certain recent laptops come with
microphones that are not physically connected to the HDA codec
(instead they use a secondary audio device OpenBSD doesn't support
yet).



Audio codec support for new(er) Framework laptops?

2021-10-29 Thread avalonw

Hi Misc!

Does anyone know whether the Tempo 92HD95B audio codec is supported?

https://temposemi.com/products/pclaptop-hd/92hd95/

I'm considering getting the Framework laptop and Joshua Stein's website
indicates that at this point, it's pretty well supported

https://jcs.org/2021/08/06/framework

But Framework is changing audio codecs on their next batches of
machines.

https://frame.work/blog/solving-for-silicon-shortages

Thus far, I haven't been able to find a way to check whether the new
audio chip is supported, as "fully supported in both Windows and Linux"
doesn't actually say much, and Tempo's answer to "how do I get a driver"
is "Ask our OEM partner that actually made the computer in question"

I *have* identified that the chip is compatible with Intel's HD audio
interface, so from what I'm reading in azalia's man page, I think it
*should* have support already under azalia, but I'll admit, the
technical specs go a bit over my head.

If anyone can clarify this for me, I'd really appreciate it.

Thank you,
- Avalon Woodard