Re: BSD and kubernetes

2023-03-20 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 02:33:25 +0800
Ken Young  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am a BSD user and also a user of kubernetes.
> It seems the BSD community has no much interest in docker/k8s
> integration. Is it true? and why?
> 
> Thanks.

Just because porting anything, that was written with only linux in mind
would require porting all linux technologies first.
We already have one linux. And personally  I do not feel like we need
another. One is just more than enough. 



Re: BSD and kubernetes

2023-03-04 Thread Daniele B.
infoomatic :

> Kubernetes' philosophy quite contradicts to OpenBSDs. Also, Kubernetes
> builds upon Linux technologies.

Put it simpler:
- images come downloaded from Internet
- containers are easy manipulable from the outside in different ways

These two stuff are contradicting any kind of security approach.

Then. I do not think that is much about any formal position of OpenBSD devs 
against Linoox.
It is Linux pledge to complexity (*security*) that is all to revisit.

On *the cloud*, I am personally the first fan of containers, as a practical as 
desperate approach.
However, I can not guess that OpenBSD security approach will go to be revisited 
any time soon
like Linux mertis, indeed.

Personal opinion.


-- Daniele Bonini



Re: BSD and kubernetes

2023-03-04 Thread infoomatic

Kubernetes' philosophy quite contradicts to OpenBSDs. Also, Kubernetes
builds upon Linux technologies. Porting that stuff alone to OpenBSD
would mean a great deal of work, and again does not really fit OpenBSDs
developers ideas. The resources of OpenBSD is just a tiny fraction of
that of kubernetes alone, so in my opinion and probably in theirs also
they should keep doing what they have done for a long time and what they
are good at: focus on OpenBSDs development (and of course their other
projects!). The good part: anyone interested in that could just grab the
source and start hacking together Kubernetes for OpenBSD, though that
work is probably overwhelming.

Being a heavy kubernetes user myself I would not choose OpenBSD in order
to run kubernetes, because I choose OpenBSD for different
reasons/requirements. What's the sense of simply putting tremendous
effort in copying a solution that is already out there, noone wants
OpenBSD to become a Linux-clone, it would be wasted energy. A metaphor:
while both systems are a kind of mobile housing, I do not want my
lightweight trekking tent to become a mongolian yurt overnight.


On 03.03.23 19:33, Ken Young wrote:

Hello,

I am a BSD user and also a user of kubernetes.
It seems the BSD community has no much interest in docker/k8s integration.
Is it true? and why?

Thanks.




Re: BSD and kubernetes

2023-03-03 Thread Stanislav Syekirin
Depends of what kind of integration. I've seen a post about running 
Kubernetes under VMM: 
https://www.h-i-r.net/2023/02/running-kubernetes-cluster-with-openbsd.html. 
Maybe it does what you need.


Regards


On Sa, 4 Mär 2023 02:33:25 +0800
 Ken Young  wrote:

Hello,

I am a BSD user and also a user of kubernetes.
It seems the BSD community has no much interest in docker/k8s 
integration.

Is it true? and why?

Thanks.




BSD and kubernetes

2023-03-03 Thread Ken Young
Hello,

I am a BSD user and also a user of kubernetes.
It seems the BSD community has no much interest in docker/k8s integration.
Is it true? and why?

Thanks.