Re: Can't Install OpenBSD 5.6 with FTP

2014-11-24 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2014-11-23 Sun 02:34 AM |, Hendrickson, Kenneth wrote:
 I now must figure out how to get a http server running.
 After 3 hours, it isn't working yet.

Make sure you've got the index.txt files.

 
 Why was this done?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade55.html#headsup
FTP will no longer be an install option for 5.6. Instead, HTTP will be
used. This should not impact users of public mirrors, but if you
replicate internally, you may wish to make sure your files can be served
by HTTP.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=139579420802409w=2


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Re: Can't Install OpenBSD 5.6 with FTP

2014-11-23 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/22/14 21:33, Hendrickson, Kenneth wrote:
 I can't install OpenBSD 5.6 with PXE with an FTP server. I now must
 figure out how to get a http server running. After 3 hours, it isn't
 working yet. There is NO documentation on how to set up the required
 web server pages.  I've looked.  There are no examples.  Not even one
 example.

If you spent three hours getting a basic, static content web server
working...you have bigger problems.

(btw: PXE uses TFTP to load the kernel, a totally different protocol,
and this /has not changed/)

 This is NOT a good thing.

Right.  But not for the reason you are thinking.

 Why was this done?

FTP as a protocol should have vanished about 20 years ago. A fair number
of firewall admins are starting to deal with FTP by saying get a modern
protocol, and a lot more should.

 Please reverse this decision.

no.

 Please bring back installing from an FTP server.

no.

 Why break something that was working well for more than a decade?? 
 Why reduce functionality??

*sigh*

You had warning in the 5.5 upgrade page.  You had notice in the 5.6
upgrade page and in numerous other locations for 5.6.

I have no idea how you spend three hours setting up a basic web server,
and since you provide no indication of what your problem is (er..problem
with the web server is), all we can do is guess and crack jokes.

I shouldn't do this, but ...

* Build out your webserver machine (assuming OpenBSD and modern hw, 15
minutes)
* Enable webserver in rc.conf.local.  Activate webserver (1 minute)
* pkg_add rsync (2 minutes)
* rsync the platform directories you want to locally mirror (15 minutes
for getting the rsync command right.  That's a gimme anyway, you already
had a process for pulling to your local mirror, that still works)
* Drop those platform directories into your webserver's space
(/var/www/htdocs in 5.6)
* IF you wish to prune out some files, you can skip the big .iso and .fs
files. You will need the SHA256* and index.txt file (note: that
index.txt file is important.  Webservers all give directory listings
differently; this provides a standard list of files for the installer to
look at.  This may be your problem, but because of how you wrote your
e-mail, I'm still laughing at you)
* Point a browser at your new server, verify all is visible and working.
* Point your installer at the same URL you used above.

Not counting load times, you could build a brand new install server in
well under an hour, and should be able to modify your existing server in
minutes.

Nick.



Re: Can't Install OpenBSD 5.6 with FTP

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
Note that I'm trying to install from my own private network.  Yes, I could 
install from the servers on the web.  But I have many boxes to install, and I 
want the installations to go fast.  I don't want to pound the servers with 
hundreds of requests.  So I want to use my own servers.  And I can't.  That is 
what I'm pissed off about.

!@#$%


From: Hendrickson, Kenneth
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:34 PM
To: b...@openbsd.org; misc@OpenBSD.org
Subject: Can't Install OpenBSD 5.6 with FTP

I can't install OpenBSD 5.6 with PXE with an FTP server.
I now must figure out how to get a http server running.
After 3 hours, it isn't working yet.
There is NO documentation on how to set up the required web server pages.  I've 
looked.  There are no examples.  Not even one example.

This is NOT a good thing.
Why was this done?
Please reverse this decision.
Please bring back installing from an FTP server.

Why break something that was working well for more than a decade??
Why reduce functionality??



Can't Install OpenBSD 5.6 with FTP

2014-11-22 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
I can't install OpenBSD 5.6 with PXE with an FTP server.
I now must figure out how to get a http server running.
After 3 hours, it isn't working yet.
There is NO documentation on how to set up the required web server pages.  I've 
looked.  There are no examples.  Not even one example.

This is NOT a good thing.
Why was this done?
Please reverse this decision.
Please bring back installing from an FTP server.

Why break something that was working well for more than a decade??
Why reduce functionality??



Re: Can't Install OpenBSD 5.6 with FTP

2014-11-22 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Kenneth,
On 22 November 2014 at 18:37, Hendrickson, Kenneth khend...@harris.com wrote:
 Note that I'm trying to install from my own private network.  Yes, I could 
 install from the servers on the web.  But I have many boxes to install, and I 
 want the installations to go fast.  I don't want to pound the servers with 
 hundreds of requests.  So I want to use my own servers.  And I can't.  That 
 is what I'm pissed off about.


Have you reviewed this tutorial: http://www.bsdnow.tv/tutorials/autoinstall

I don't have any experience with the autoinstall, though.

 !@#$%


Best,
jungle

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