Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-30 Thread Sieve-X
Dieter openbsd at sopwith.solgatos.com writes: Sigh. I could easily go on a major rant here, but it wouldn't do us any good. Anyone have information or ideas that could get us closer to a solution? Event log counter can be written every once in a while for example if S.M.A.R.T automatic

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
please, this is way off topic. could you try and find a better list to chat about this on...

Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.

2009-01-29 Thread Dieter
Has anyone looked into disassembling the firmware?

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 27.01.2009 at 21:37:28 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: Toni writes: positives and false negatives. After deciding that the results were far too unreliable, the page was pulled. That too. For one thing people were entering the serial numbers using lower

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-28 Thread Dieter
positives and false negatives. After deciding that the results were far too unreliable, the page was pulled. That too. For one thing people were entering the serial numbers using lower case letters and getting false negatives. this is a joke, right? As far as I can tell it is not

Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.

2009-01-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 26.01.2009 at 15:39:36 +0100, Raimo Niskanen raimo+open...@erix.ericsson.se wrote: How can I know if I have a suspicious drive? you won't, imho, until Seagate will deliver usable data on this issue. Their statements so far were a long way from being trust-inspiring, imho. My best

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 26.01.2009 at 17:08:51 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: It is easy to set up a slashdot account. Or you can post as anonymous coward. yes, but I don't want to set up a /. account right now, and posting as AC wouldn't likely solve the problem. that he has

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 26.01.2009 at 17:08:51 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: Your suggestion of smartmontools is helpful, thank you. thanks - I have just sent an email to them, esp. after seeing that there are people from big name companies involved, who could procure at least some of

Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.

2009-01-27 Thread Sieve-X
Dieter openbsd at sopwith.solgatos.com writes: Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. Most of you have read about the problems with Seagate's 7200.11 disks. For those of you that haven't, the firmware on many of these drives is buggy, and can brick the drive when

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Sieve-X
Nenhum_de_Nos matheus at eternamente.info writes: where you read that from ? I have a couple of 750GB ES.2 and now I'm worried ! http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207931NewLang=en thanks, yet OT, but I also heard of new firmwares being worse than old

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Dieter
Toni writes: If we can find out what area this is (I assume it isn't in the normal space used for user storage) and how to zero it (if not already zero) there is no need to update the firmware. I'd rather say that the (ring) buffer has some external counter, also stored somewhere,

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sun, 25.01.2009 at 16:27:14 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: I wrote: You wrote: Is Maxtorman correct about the 320 log entries? My dealer told me a similar story, but I don't know where he had it from. I guess the next step is to find out if Maxtorman is

Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.

2009-01-26 Thread RedShift
Dieter wrote: Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. Most of you have read about the problems with Seagate's 7200.11 disks. For those of you that haven't, the firmware on many of these drives is buggy, and can brick the drive when powering up or rebooting the system. Thus

Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.

2009-01-26 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 09:28:34PM +, Dieter wrote: Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. Most of you have read about the problems with Seagate's 7200.11 disks. For those of you that haven't, the firmware on many of these drives is buggy, and can brick the drive when

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Sun, January 25, 2009 16:01, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. first off, several other product lines are affected, too. In particular, the popular ES and ES.2

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-01-26, Nenhum_de_Nos math...@eternamente.info wrote: On Sun, January 25, 2009 16:01, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. first off, several other product

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Mon, January 26, 2009 18:48, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2009-01-26, Nenhum_de_Nos math...@eternamente.info wrote: On Sun, January 25, 2009 16:01, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: Recovering from Seagate's problematic

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Dieter
Disk families affected: Barracuda 7200.11, Barracuda ES.2 (SATA), DiamondMax 22, FreeAgent Desk, Maxtor OneTouch 4, Pipeline HD, Pipeline HD Pro, SV35.3, SV35.4 Barracuda ES.2 SAS drive is not affected All drives with a date of manufacture January 12, 2009 and later are not affected by this

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Dieter
Toni writes: Is Maxtorman correct about the 320 log entries? My dealer told me a similar story, but I don't know where he had it from. I guess the next step is to find out if Maxtorman is correct about this 320 log entries stuff, and if the SMART log entries as reported

OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-25 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter open...@sopwith.solgatos.com wrote: Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. first off, several other product lines are affected, too. In particular, the popular ES and ES.2 server grade disks are also affected, to the best of my

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-25 Thread Dieter
Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. first off, several other product lines are affected, too. In particular, the popular ES and ES.2 server grade disks are also affected, to the best of my knowledge. Seagate only admits to problems with ES.2 drives, not ES drives,

Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.

2009-01-23 Thread Dieter
Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. Most of you have read about the problems with Seagate's 7200.11 disks. For those of you that haven't, the firmware on many of these drives is buggy, and can brick the drive when powering up or rebooting the system. Thus far, Seagate's