Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-07-01 Thread Andre Ruppert

Just a little addendum to your final post:

I use OpenBSD as my desktop environment (also MAC OS and Linux) and I 
was looking for years for an outline application which I can use on 
every OS.


Finally I switched from open to (paid) closed source *sigh* but now most 
of my problems were solved.


I use notecasepro, an I think I'm the only user who uses it on OpenBSD, 
because I have to ask for a version running on an actual OpenBSD release.


And no, this is not an advertisement, but my personal result after 
evaluating a lot of similar software which I can use on Linux, FreeBSD, 
MacOS but not on OpenBSD.


Regards
Andre

Am 29.06.19 um 22:56 schrieb Chris Humphries:

Final post.





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Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-29 Thread Chris Humphries
Final post.

After writing a script to port my 10 years of Evernote content to Zim
for a few hours, I ported all my content. Sadly, Zim crashes every time
now, maybe it wasn't meant to handle that workload. But hey, I got to
enjoy diving back into Perl programming again.

So, instead of investing more time into debugging the crashes, I've
moved on to Emacs org-mode which is working well. I've been using Emacs
for over decades years, so it OK.

For encryption and backup, I'm using jcs's veracrypt port to have a
container on a usb key and backing up remotely to a cloud data store.
Veracrypt is important to me because I want to flexibility to access my
data from whatever OS I'm at.

There just simply aren't good native personal wiki/notebook apps
available on OpenBSD (rich text, copy/paste content like web pages
[maintaining webpage rendering] and images, etc) at this time.

Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions! org-mode ended up being the
choice to pick, but mainly due to other options not being available and
it was the best from what remains.
https://www.privacytools.io/software/notebooks/


Anyone looking this thread up in the future (here is my setup):

1. Use org-mode: export your notebooks to enex files and use a utility
like https://github.com/aladine/EverOrg to convert them

2. Use jcs's port (at the time of this email) for veracrypt:
https://github.com/jcs/openbsd-ports/tree/master/security/veracrypt

3. Keep the encrypted container on a usb key and back it to a
cloud/remote data store regularly/as-needed.


On 6/28/19 11:48 PM, Chris Humphries wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 02:37:20AM +, Ipsen S Ripsbusker wrote:
>> I realized that you did mention what you liked in your first mail.
>>
>>> I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
>>> big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
>>> into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
>>> category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
>>>
>>> If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
>>> would be great but not required.
>>
>> As others have pointed out, specialized text files  in a synchronized
>> directory do seem to accomplish this. I consequently think there is
>> more that you like about Evernote but have not articulated.
>>
> 
> You are right.
> 
> I surely left stuff out because I did not articulate all the reasons I
> use Evernote. I conveyed the main reasons I use Evernote and in a
> sense what features are that I care about on a day to day basis.
> 
> 
> I'm leaning towards Zim (which is in ports, has a nice GUI, has the
> features I wanted, and its data files are text files) with rclone for
> syncing to a cloud data store.
> 
> I start migrating all my Evernote data to it tomorrow. I will probably
> write up a blog post about it once I've completed the entire
> process. I'll need to write a script to handle the conversion.
> 
> 
> I appreciate your reply.
> Take care!
> 

-- 
Chris Humphries 
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Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Chris Humphries
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 02:37:20AM +, Ipsen S Ripsbusker wrote:
> I realized that you did mention what you liked in your first mail.
> 
> > I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> > big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> > into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> > category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
> >
> > If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
> > would be great but not required.
> 
> As others have pointed out, specialized text files  in a synchronized
> directory do seem to accomplish this. I consequently think there is
> more that you like about Evernote but have not articulated.
> 

You are right.

I surely left stuff out because I did not articulate all the reasons I
use Evernote. I conveyed the main reasons I use Evernote and in a
sense what features are that I care about on a day to day basis.


I'm leaning towards Zim (which is in ports, has a nice GUI, has the
features I wanted, and its data files are text files) with rclone for
syncing to a cloud data store.

I start migrating all my Evernote data to it tomorrow. I will probably
write up a blog post about it once I've completed the entire
process. I'll need to write a script to handle the conversion.


I appreciate your reply.
Take care!

-- 
Chris Humphries 
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Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Ipsen S Ripsbusker
I realized that you did mention what you liked in your first mail.

> I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
>
> If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
> would be great but not required.

As others have pointed out, specialized text files  in a synchronized
directory do seem to accomplish this. I consequently think there is
more that you like about Evernote but have not articulated.



Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Ipsen S Ripsbusker
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, at 17:09, Chris Humphries wrote:
> Sure, a native client (like nixnote2) aren't available on OpenBSD is
> my primary motivator.
>
> ...

These are the things you dislike about Evernote. What do you like about 
Evernote?



Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Chris Humphries
Sure, a native client (like nixnote2) aren't available on OpenBSD is
my primary motivator.

Additionally, I don't truly use all the features (been a customer for
a long time) and would like to have more control over my data, too.

The web application is not a real client, but is available to access
the data.


Right now I'm leaning towards Zim + rclone. 


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 03:58:21PM -0400, Ipsen S Ripsbusker wrote:
> What specifically do you like about Evernote, and why?
> 

-- 
Chris Humphries 
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Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Ipsen S Ripsbusker
What specifically do you like about Evernote, and why?



Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Chris Humphries
Yeah, using git/svn/csv/whatever is not going to work for me. Zim
would be much better for more complex note taking.

It won't satisfy my usecase for replacing Evernote. 


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 08:29:38PM +0200, Frank Beuth wrote:
> git init a folder, keep your notes as plain text files in that folder, and
> use standard git commands to sync changes everywhere?
> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 01:58:34PM -0400, Christopher Turkel wrote:
> > Is there a how to about to use git for this? It sounds awesome.
> > 
> > On Friday, June 28, 2019, Chris Humphries  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hrm, I'm not finding a leannote port available for OpenBSD. Is it
> > > available in an alternate location.
> > > 
> > > http://openports.se/search.php?stype=folder&so=leannote
> > > 
> > > The screenshots and features look nice.
> > > 
> > > -Chris
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 05:06:23PM +, drozdow wrote:
> > > > leannote / just use git
> > > >
> > > > Inviato da ProtonMail mobile
> > > >
> > > >  Messaggio originale 
> > > > On 28 giu 2019, 1:32 AM, Chris Humphries ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been looking to migrate off of Evernote for a while, and now
> > > > > that my daily driver is OpenBSD, I am more motivated to migrate from
> > > > > Evernote to something else (nixnote2 isn't a port and looks to be a
> > > > > pain to make a port of).
> > > > >
> > > > > I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> > > > > big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> > > > > into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> > > > > category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
> > > > > would be great but not required.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did a lot of searching and the only thing I see that comes close
> > > > > that a port exists for is Zim, which looks like it could work on most
> > > > > fronts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you made a transition from Evernote/Onenote before? If so, what
> > > > > did you do?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Chris Humphries 
> > > > > [5223 9548](tel:52239548) E1DE DE87 F509 1888 8141 8451 6338 DD29
> > > 
> > > 
> 

-- 
Chris Humphries 
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Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Frank Beuth
git init a folder, keep your notes as plain text files in that folder, and use 
standard git commands to sync changes everywhere?


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 01:58:34PM -0400, Christopher Turkel wrote:

Is there a how to about to use git for this? It sounds awesome.

On Friday, June 28, 2019, Chris Humphries  wrote:


Hrm, I'm not finding a leannote port available for OpenBSD. Is it
available in an alternate location.

http://openports.se/search.php?stype=folder&so=leannote

The screenshots and features look nice.

-Chris

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 05:06:23PM +, drozdow wrote:
> leannote / just use git
>
> Inviato da ProtonMail mobile
>
>  Messaggio originale 
> On 28 giu 2019, 1:32 AM, Chris Humphries ha scritto:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been looking to migrate off of Evernote for a while, and now
> > that my daily driver is OpenBSD, I am more motivated to migrate from
> > Evernote to something else (nixnote2 isn't a port and looks to be a
> > pain to make a port of).
> >
> > I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> > big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> > into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> > category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
> >
> > If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
> > would be great but not required.
> >
> > I did a lot of searching and the only thing I see that comes close
> > that a port exists for is Zim, which looks like it could work on most
> > fronts.
> >
> > Have you made a transition from Evernote/Onenote before? If so, what
> > did you do?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > --
> > Chris Humphries 
> > [5223 9548](tel:52239548) E1DE DE87 F509 1888 8141 8451 6338 DD29






Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Christopher Turkel
Is there a how to about to use git for this? It sounds awesome.

On Friday, June 28, 2019, Chris Humphries  wrote:

> Hrm, I'm not finding a leannote port available for OpenBSD. Is it
> available in an alternate location.
>
> http://openports.se/search.php?stype=folder&so=leannote
>
> The screenshots and features look nice.
>
> -Chris
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 05:06:23PM +, drozdow wrote:
> > leannote / just use git
> >
> > Inviato da ProtonMail mobile
> >
> >  Messaggio originale 
> > On 28 giu 2019, 1:32 AM, Chris Humphries ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have been looking to migrate off of Evernote for a while, and now
> > > that my daily driver is OpenBSD, I am more motivated to migrate from
> > > Evernote to something else (nixnote2 isn't a port and looks to be a
> > > pain to make a port of).
> > >
> > > I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> > > big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> > > into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> > > category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
> > >
> > > If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
> > > would be great but not required.
> > >
> > > I did a lot of searching and the only thing I see that comes close
> > > that a port exists for is Zim, which looks like it could work on most
> > > fronts.
> > >
> > > Have you made a transition from Evernote/Onenote before? If so, what
> > > did you do?
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Humphries 
> > > [5223 9548](tel:52239548) E1DE DE87 F509 1888 8141 8451 6338 DD29
>
>


Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Chris Humphries
Hrm, I'm not finding a leannote port available for OpenBSD. Is it
available in an alternate location.

http://openports.se/search.php?stype=folder&so=leannote

The screenshots and features look nice.

-Chris

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 05:06:23PM +, drozdow wrote:
> leannote / just use git
> 
> Inviato da ProtonMail mobile
> 
>  Messaggio originale 
> On 28 giu 2019, 1:32 AM, Chris Humphries ha scritto:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been looking to migrate off of Evernote for a while, and now
> > that my daily driver is OpenBSD, I am more motivated to migrate from
> > Evernote to something else (nixnote2 isn't a port and looks to be a
> > pain to make a port of).
> >
> > I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> > big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> > into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> > category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
> >
> > If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
> > would be great but not required.
> >
> > I did a lot of searching and the only thing I see that comes close
> > that a port exists for is Zim, which looks like it could work on most
> > fronts.
> >
> > Have you made a transition from Evernote/Onenote before? If so, what
> > did you do?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > --
> > Chris Humphries 
> > [5223 9548](tel:52239548) E1DE DE87 F509 1888 8141 8451 6338 DD29



Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread drozdow
leannote / just use git

Inviato da ProtonMail mobile

 Messaggio originale 
On 28 giu 2019, 1:32 AM, Chris Humphries ha scritto:

> Hello,
>
> I have been looking to migrate off of Evernote for a while, and now
> that my daily driver is OpenBSD, I am more motivated to migrate from
> Evernote to something else (nixnote2 isn't a port and looks to be a
> pain to make a port of).
>
> I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
>
> If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
> would be great but not required.
>
> I did a lot of searching and the only thing I see that comes close
> that a port exists for is Zim, which looks like it could work on most
> fronts.
>
> Have you made a transition from Evernote/Onenote before? If so, what
> did you do?
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
> Chris Humphries 
> [5223 9548](tel:52239548) E1DE DE87 F509 1888 8141 8451 6338 DD29


Re: Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-28 Thread Luke Call
On 06-27 23:32, Chris Humphries wrote:
> I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
> big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
> into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
> category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.
> []
> Have you made a transition from Evernote/Onenote before? If so, what
> did you do?

Some people *really* love emacs org-mode, or there is a new GNU (FSF?) product 
whose name escapes me at the moment but which sounded good (saw it recently on 
hacker news I think).

I wrote and heavily use the (AGPL) product at http://onemodel.org, which I hope 
to move to Rust and become again more active in adding features.  I use it 
every day and have extensive notes organized in various ways and for meat 
least, it is the best thing there is.  It is all keyboard-based, works in a 
terminal, has search, exports data to html and outline documents, has a 
~"journal" feature (reporting activity by date), has a very basic security 
model, is very physically efficient and I hope easy to learn (basically 
everything is on the screen if you read it carefully), and it requires you to 
install postgres (has detailed instructions, could move to sqlite someday...on 
the list...), and has no mobile support.  I keep in it *everything* write down, 
from daily routine to calendar/ticklers, notes, and I hope to add anki-like 
(i.e., smart flashcards) features for study notes in the future.

The web site has much more info, including some FAQs with mentions of other 
products like a to-do list manager that I think is available on OBSD 
(taskwarrior?), and there is a very low-volume mailing list for questions.  The 
best code is in github (with a few more enhancements on my machine), but there 
is also a .jar you can download (again, I hope to move it to Rust as a 
priority).

(Currently, when I need to access some of it on a mobile device, I export it 
and post it as temporary files and view it over .html, though other things 
would obviously be better in the future I hope.)

-- 
Luke Call
Things I want to say to many (a lightly-loading site):
http://lukecall.net  (updated 2019-06-21)



Evernote Alternative?

2019-06-27 Thread Chris Humphries
Hello,

I have been looking to migrate off of Evernote for a while, and now
that my daily driver is OpenBSD, I am more motivated to migrate from
Evernote to something else (nixnote2 isn't a port and looks to be a
pain to make a port of).

I keep a lot of my brain in Evernote, and having a replacement is a
big productivity boost for me. I mainly want a way to categorize notes
into categories/labels/notebooks, be able to view all notes in that
category/label/notebook, and be able to search all notes.

If I could also access that information from a mobile device, that
would be great but not required.

I did a lot of searching and the only thing I see that comes close
that a port exists for is Zim, which looks like it could work on most
fronts.

Have you made a transition from Evernote/Onenote before? If so, what
did you do?

Thank you!

-- 
Chris Humphries 
5223 9548 E1DE DE87 F509  1888 8141 8451 6338 DD29