Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
Paul B. Henson(hen...@acm.org) on 2013.11.15 15:54:04 -0800: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Arg, disappointing, but I'm glad I thought to check before buying :). Do you know if anybody's working on it? no. So much for standard AHCI sigh, does it not find it, or find it but crap out? Do all the other components work ok? I could temporarily stick a PCI SATA card in it to get by until the onboard SATA is supported if all the other pieces are happy. Does anybody have any suggestions for a good/cheap 2 port SATA PCI card that supports openbsd? The earlier 5017A-* machines are ok. Hmm, the only other 5017A model I see doesn't have IPMI. sorry, i mispoke, i meant 5015A-* and they dont have a dedicated ipmi port. anyway, dmesg attached, if someone cares. i'm not going to do anything more with it. OpenBSD 5.4-current (RAMDISK_CD) #107: Sun Nov 10 23:00:53 MST 2013 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/RAMDISK_CD real mem = 4261289984 (4063MB) avail mem = 4142940160 (3951MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xe94c0 (23 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 1.0b date 04/26/2013 bios0: Supermicro X9SBAA acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT MCFG HPET SPMI EINJ ERST HEST BERT acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU S1260 @ 2.00GHz, 1995.21 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CF LUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM 2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PRP1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (PRP2) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 4 (P3P4) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c75 rev 0x02 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c46 rev 0x02 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ahci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 vendor Marvell, unknown product 0x9230 rev 0x10: msi, AHCI 1.2 scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c47 rev 0x02 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 vendor Renesas, unknown product 0x0014 (class serial bus subclass USB, rev 0x03) at pci2 dev 0 function 0 not configured ppb2 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c48 rev 0x02 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 ppb3 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 vendor Newbridge, unknown product 0x8113 rev 0x01 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 em0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82541GI rev 0x05: apic 2 int 21, address 90:e2:ba:53:11:fd vga1 at pci4 dev 3 function 0 Matrox MGA G200eW rev 0x0a wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) ppb4 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c49 rev 0x02 pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 em1 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 Intel I350 rev 0x01: msi, address 00:25:90:c7:b4:48 em2 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 Intel I350 rev 0x01: msi, address 00:25:90:c7:b4:49 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c54 (class system unknown subclass 0x06, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 14 function 0 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c59 (class system subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 19 function 0 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c5a (class system subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 19 function 1 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c5f (class communications subclass serial, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 20 function 0 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c60 (class bridge subclass ISA, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 31 function 0 not configured isa0 at mainbus0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1: console softraid0 at root scsibus1 at softraid0: 256 targets PXE boot MAC address 00:25:90:c7:b4:48, interface em1 root on rd0a swap on rd0b dump on rd0b
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On 11/16/2013 00:54, Paul B. Henson wrote: Does anybody have any suggestions for a good/cheap 2 port SATA PCI card that supports openbsd? Maybe just buy the previous model 5015A-*? I have been running one of those for some years now and it works like a charm. From their website I see it has reached End-of-Life though. HW is standard Intel. specs from FreeBSD dmesg: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz (1807.21-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x106ca Family = 6 Model = 1c Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x40e31dSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3145445376 (2999 MB) ACPI APIC Table: 121710 APIC1048 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: SMCI on motherboard acpi0: Overriding SCI Interrupt from IRQ 9 to IRQ 20 acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, bff0 (3) failed Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 uhci0: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus0 on uhci0 uhci1: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc880-0xc89f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus1 on uhci1 uhci2: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 19 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus2 on uhci2 ehci0: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfebfbc00-0xfebfbfff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 usbus3 on ehci0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.7 port 0xdc00-0xdc1f mem 0xfe9e-0xfe9f,0xfe9dc000-0xfe9d irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors em0: [ITHREAD] em0: [ITHREAD] em0: [ITHREAD] em0: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:38:2d:e4 pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3 em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.7 port 0xec00-0xec1f mem 0xfeae-0xfeaf,0xfeadc000-0xfead irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors em1: [ITHREAD] em1: [ITHREAD] em1: [ITHREAD] em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:38:2d:e5 uhci3: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [ITHREAD] uhci3: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus4 on uhci3 uhci4: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [ITHREAD] uhci4: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus5 on uhci4 uhci5: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [ITHREAD] uhci5: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus6 on uhci5 ehci1: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfebfb800-0xfebfbbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [ITHREAD] usbus7: EHCI version 1.0 usbus7 on ehci1 pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci4: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 0xfc00-0xfcff,0xfdffc000-0xfdff,0xfe00-0xfe7f irq 17 at device 4.0 on pci4 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: Intel ICH8 SATA300 controller port 0xb480-0xb487,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb81f mem 0xfebfb000-0xfebfb7ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci0: AHCI v1.20 controller with 6 3Gbps ports, PM not supported ata2: ATA channel at channel 0 on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: ATA channel at channel 1 on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: ATA channel at channel 2 on atapci0 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: ATA channel at channel 3 on atapci0 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: ATA channel at channel 4 on atapci0 ata6: [ITHREAD] ata7: ATA channel at channel 5 on atapci0 ata7: [ITHREAD] pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 uart0: 16550 or compatible port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:34:15AM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: sorry, i mispoke, i meant 5015A-* and they dont have a dedicated ipmi port. Oh, yah, I've actually got one of those, it's been working great. I was actually planning on replacing it with this newer one, which supports more memory and has more power, and reallocate it to another task. anyway, dmesg attached, if someone cares. i'm not going to do anything more with it. cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset Hmm, not very promising, it didn't even initialize all four cores. The ahci error is one of the things the freebsd driver works around, the crappy marvell chipset breaks spec on the reset function. Lots of unknowns and unconfigured in that dmesg :(, guess I need to find another option. Least I found out before I bought it, thanks much for the heads up.
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:27:08PM +0100, Carsten Larsen wrote: Maybe just buy the previous model 5015A-*? I have been running one of those for some years now and it works like a charm. From their website I see it has reached End-of-Life though. I've actually got one of those, as you say, I've been very happy with it. I was looking for a newer model with more power and a separate IPMI port. Guess I've got to keep looking...
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 08:42:50PM -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote: It's very old. This patch did not make it into the driver and I have no idea if those chips work through some other change, or not. Likely not. These older chips must be really buggy pieces of shit if you have to disable NCQ. Bleh. I can definitely see the openbsd philosophy leaning towards not supporting crap ;). The two workarounds in freebsd for this newer marvell sata chipset don't seem quite as egregious, but I'm not really a low level driver guy...
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:15:19PM -0800, Paul B. Henson wrote: sorry, i mispoke, i meant 5015A-* and they dont have a dedicated ipmi port. Oh, yah, I've actually got one of those, it's been working great. I was actually planning on replacing it with this newer one, which supports more memory and has more power, and reallocate it to another task. I forgot to mention, but the newer one also supports ECC memory, which is a plus.
Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
I'm looking at a supermicro SuperServer 5017A-EF for openbsd purposes, it's got an Intel atom S1260 SoC, Marvell 88SE9230 SATA, and i350AM2 dual gig interfaces. It looks like i350 support shipped in 5.2, and I'm pretty sure the Marvell chip is AHCI compliant, so I'd think that would be ok, but I'm leery about the SoC, I can't find any references to openbsd running on this specific chip or any atom based SoC for that matter and I'd hate to buy a box that didn't run openbsd well :(. Any feedback on this particular server, this atom SoC in specific, or even a general opinion on how well this might work out much appreciated :). Thanks much...
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
Paul B. Henson(hen...@acm.org) on 2013.11.15 13:59:19 -0800: I'm looking at a supermicro SuperServer 5017A-EF for openbsd purposes, it's got an Intel atom S1260 SoC, Marvell 88SE9230 SATA, and i350AM2 dual gig interfaces. It looks like i350 support shipped in 5.2, and I'm pretty sure the Marvell chip is AHCI compliant, so I'd think that would be ok, but I'm leery about the SoC, I can't find any references to openbsd running on this specific chip or any atom based SoC for that matter and I'd hate to buy a box that didn't run openbsd well :(. Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) The earlier 5017A-* machines are ok. /B. Any feedback on this particular server, this atom SoC in specific, or even a general opinion on how well this might work out much appreciated :). Thanks much... --
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Arg, disappointing, but I'm glad I thought to check before buying :). Do you know if anybody's working on it? So much for standard AHCI sigh, does it not find it, or find it but crap out? Do all the other components work ok? I could temporarily stick a PCI SATA card in it to get by until the onboard SATA is supported if all the other pieces are happy. Does anybody have any suggestions for a good/cheap 2 port SATA PCI card that supports openbsd? The earlier 5017A-* machines are ok. Hmm, the only other 5017A model I see doesn't have IPMI. Thanks for the help...
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Hmm, looks like support was added in FreeBSD back in June 2012: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-9/2012-June/002131.html so hopefully it wouldn't be to hard for somebody with the right skill set (unfortunately not me when it comes to low level drivers sigh) to tune it up for openbsd. Looking at the backstory behind that commit: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=32563 evidentally marvell doesn't follow the AHCI spec very well and the freebsd driver has workarounds for various quirks. Stupid marvell :(, too bad supermicro didn't use a better sata chip. Poking through the freebsd code, it looks like it has a workaround for Marvell controllers do not wait for readyness which appears to be adding in an extra delay when the controller is reset, and Some weird controllers do not return signature in FIS receive area. Read it from PxSIG register., which copies some results from a different location overwriting what was copied in from the standard location. Other than that, I don't see any other kludges, the rest is just the standard ahci stuff. I see the openbsd ahci driver is completely different than the freebsd one, so dunno how easily such workarounds could be implemented.
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
Paul B. Henson [hen...@acm.org] wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Hmm, looks like support was added in FreeBSD back in June 2012: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-9/2012-June/002131.html so hopefully it wouldn't be to hard for somebody with the right skill set (unfortunately not me when it comes to low level drivers sigh) to tune it up for openbsd. Looking at the backstory behind that commit: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=32563 evidentally marvell doesn't follow the AHCI spec very well and the freebsd driver has workarounds for various quirks. Stupid marvell :(, too bad supermicro didn't use a better sata chip. Not directly related to these new chips, but, check this out: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2007-10/2418.html It's very old. This patch did not make it into the driver and I have no idea if those chips work through some other change, or not. Likely not. These older chips must be really buggy pieces of shit if you have to disable NCQ.
