Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
(Was eaten by mailing list problems - resending.) ludovic coues wrote: > 2015-08-28 12:32 GMT+02:00 Quartz : > > Just out of curiosity, are there any plans to support bluetooth at > > some point in the future? > > From what I heard, there was some support in the past. But people > stopped to update the code, it rotted with time and it was removed. So > I assume that bluetooth might be supported again if someone show > enough interest in doing so. tedu deleted it at a hackathon last year: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140729070721 I know FreeBSD's Bluetooth implementation is tied into some sort of plugin-ish network stack framework that the devs (Theo, IIRC) don't like, so it can't be ported. I don't know about the situation with NetBSD. Anecdotally, it seems like Bluetooth isn't used much these days.
Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
On 2015 Aug 28 (Fri) at 06:32:54 -0400 (-0400), Quartz wrote: :Just out of curiosity, are there any plans to support bluetooth at some point :in the future? : There needs to be interest from a developer who can write a not-crappy bluetooth stack. Odds are fairly low right now.
Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
2015-08-28 12:32 GMT+02:00 Quartz : > Just out of curiosity, are there any plans to support bluetooth at some > point in the future? > >From what I heard, there was some support in the past. But people stopped to update the code, it rotted with time and it was removed. So I assume that bluetooth might be supported again if someone show enough interest in doing so. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic +336 148 743 42
Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
Just out of curiosity, are there any plans to support bluetooth at some point in the future?
Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
If the dongle is just a bluetooth radio and expects the host to take care of parts of bluetooth (device peering etc), then OpenBSD can't use the keyboard. OK, I think that answers it for me then. Thanks.
Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
Am Freitag, den 28.08.2015, 05:51 -0400 schrieb Quartz: > Basically, let's say I buy a bluetooth keyboard. Let's say it's a > fancy > model and is nice enough to come with a generic usb->bluetooth > nub/dongle thingy I can plug in if my computer doesn't already have > bluetooth capabilities. I plug it in. Does the keyboard then present > to > the OS as a raw keyboard, or does it present as some kind of special > bluetooth device? That depends on the vendor/on the concrete device. I have seen both cases: That it presets itself (in my case) as a usb mouse, or as a bluet ooth dongle and bluetooth mouse. -- David Dahlberg Fraunhofer FKIE, Dept. Communication Systems (KOM) | Tel: +49-228-9435-845 Fraunhoferstr. 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany| Fax: +49-228-856277
Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 05:51:39AM -0400, Quartz wrote: > Basically, let's say I buy a bluetooth keyboard. Let's say it's a fancy > model and is nice enough to come with a generic usb->bluetooth nub/dongle > thingy I can plug in if my computer doesn't already have bluetooth > capabilities. I plug it in. Does the keyboard then present to the OS as a > raw keyboard, or does it present as some kind of special bluetooth device? > I don't know what level of hardware abstraction is being used here. If the dongle handles all of bluetooth by itself and presents a USB keyboard device to the host OS, then OpenBSD will see a USB keyboard it can use. If the dongle is just a bluetooth radio and expects the host to take care of parts of bluetooth (device peering etc), then OpenBSD can't use the keyboard.
Re: bluetooth keyboard [was:Re: Intel Edison]
:>OpenBSD doesn't support bluetooth on any hardware. : :Does that also include usb->bluetooth dongles for wireless keyboards? : That includes all forms of bluetooth where it is presented to the OS. If it fakes a keyboard, and shows up as a ukbd, then that driver will be used. Well I guess that was my question, perhaps worded badly. Basically, let's say I buy a bluetooth keyboard. Let's say it's a fancy model and is nice enough to come with a generic usb->bluetooth nub/dongle thingy I can plug in if my computer doesn't already have bluetooth capabilities. I plug it in. Does the keyboard then present to the OS as a raw keyboard, or does it present as some kind of special bluetooth device? I don't know what level of hardware abstraction is being used here.
Re: Intel Edison
Dongle for wireless device doesn't work that way. The dongle pretend to be the device and take care of all the communication. From the OS point of view, using a wired usb keyboard or a wireless keyboard using a dongle is the same thing. Also, bluetooth keyboard doesn't provide dongle. I wasn't referring to one of those RF-dongles from Logitech, but a usb gizmo that specifically creates a bluetooth 'network' that actual real bluetooth devices can connect to, for example http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007Q45EF4
Re: Intel Edison
On Thursday 27 August 2015 10:16:31 Quartz wrote: > > OpenBSD doesn't support bluetooth on any hardware. > > Does that also include usb->bluetooth dongles for wireless keyboards? I'm using Logitech K520 wireless keyboard and M310 mouse with OpenBSD, but that is not Bluetooth. See Peter Hessler's comment. Cheers Eike
Re: Intel Edison
2015-08-27 16:16 GMT+02:00 Quartz : >> OpenBSD doesn't support bluetooth on any hardware. > > > Does that also include usb->bluetooth dongles for wireless keyboards? > Dongle for wireless device doesn't work that way. The dongle pretend to be the device and take care of all the communication. >From the OS point of view, using a wired usb keyboard or a wireless keyboard using a dongle is the same thing. Also, bluetooth keyboard doesn't provide dongle. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic +336 148 743 42
Re: Intel Edison
On 2015 Aug 27 (Thu) at 10:16:31 -0400 (-0400), Quartz wrote: :>OpenBSD doesn't support bluetooth on any hardware. : :Does that also include usb->bluetooth dongles for wireless keyboards? : That includes all forms of bluetooth where it is presented to the OS. If it fakes a keyboard, and shows up as a ukbd, then that driver will be used.
Re: Intel Edison
OpenBSD doesn't support bluetooth on any hardware. Does that also include usb->bluetooth dongles for wireless keyboards?
Re: Intel Edison
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:43:44AM +0100, Gareth Nelson wrote: > Wifi chipset info here: > http://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/EdisonDatasheet.pdf wifi is Broadcom BCM43340 which is not supported. Linux supports it via the brcmfmac driver. Furthermore, this chip is on an SDIO bus. There is some support for SDIO but I don't expect it is fit enough for use with wifi. I believe SDIO was only really used on zaurus devices so far.
Re: Intel Edison
Wifi chipset info here: http://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/EdisonDatasheet.pdf On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Gareth Nelson wrote: > Unfortunately I haven't got the device in hand yet, still researching > alternatives, here's a datasheet: > http://akizukidenshi.com/download/ds/intel/edison-module_HG_331189-002.pdf > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 08:42:41AM +0100, Gareth Nelson wrote: >> > So the question now becomes the same, but without bluetooth. >> >> You don't happen to have any link for us to detailed HW specs? >> Or a Linux dmesg?
Re: Intel Edison
Unfortunately I haven't got the device in hand yet, still researching alternatives, here's a datasheet: http://akizukidenshi.com/download/ds/intel/edison-module_HG_331189-002.pdf On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 08:42:41AM +0100, Gareth Nelson wrote: > > So the question now becomes the same, but without bluetooth. > > You don't happen to have any link for us to detailed HW specs? > Or a Linux dmesg?
Re: Intel Edison
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 08:42:41AM +0100, Gareth Nelson wrote: > So the question now becomes the same, but without bluetooth. You don't happen to have any link for us to detailed HW specs? Or a Linux dmesg?
Re: Intel Edison
doh! I suppose I could add a small serial console via Xbee or something in an external device. So the question now becomes the same, but without bluetooth. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Alexander Hall wrote: > We don't have any Bluetooth support. > > /Alexander > > On August 27, 2015 8:59:22 AM GMT+02:00, Gareth Nelson < > gar...@garethnelson.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> I'm thinking of building a project (for those curious, it's an implant - >> see biohack.me for info on this kind of stuff) on top of the Intel Edison >> and was curious if OpenBSD would work on it with full bluetooth+wifi >> support. >> >> Failing that, if anyone knows of a similar device that is of similar >> physical size and specs i'd appreciate it.
Re: Intel Edison
We don't have any Bluetooth support. /Alexander On August 27, 2015 8:59:22 AM GMT+02:00, Gareth Nelson wrote: >Hi all > >I'm thinking of building a project (for those curious, it's an implant >- >see biohack.me for info on this kind of stuff) on top of the Intel >Edison >and was curious if OpenBSD would work on it with full bluetooth+wifi >support. > >Failing that, if anyone knows of a similar device that is of similar >physical size and specs i'd appreciate it.
Re: Intel Edison
OpenBSD doesn't support bluetooth on any hardware. On 2015 Aug 27 (Thu) at 07:59:22 +0100 (+0100), Gareth Nelson wrote: :Hi all : :I'm thinking of building a project (for those curious, it's an implant - :see biohack.me for info on this kind of stuff) on top of the Intel Edison :and was curious if OpenBSD would work on it with full bluetooth+wifi :support. : :Failing that, if anyone knows of a similar device that is of similar :physical size and specs i'd appreciate it. :
Intel Edison
Hi all I'm thinking of building a project (for those curious, it's an implant - see biohack.me for info on this kind of stuff) on top of the Intel Edison and was curious if OpenBSD would work on it with full bluetooth+wifi support. Failing that, if anyone knows of a similar device that is of similar physical size and specs i'd appreciate it.
