Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Peter Hessler]

Please take this offline.


On 2016 Feb 18 (Thu) at 06:26:21 +0200 (+0200), li...@wrant.com wrote:
:Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:12:58 -0500 Eric Furman 
:> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:10 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote:
:> > Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman   
:> > > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD!  
:> ^
:> 
:> Whoa whoa whoa, that is not what I wrote.
:> I wrote OS400 and it was a joke.
:
:So appears to be the outrageous topic, well covering up the shocking
:facts that new-ware bugs are becoming more and excruciatingly deadlier
:fatal ever since last leap leap year.  What an example NOT to get
:inspired from: rewriting Unix poorly.
:
:> I'm not going to anybody's list and preaching anything.
:> Just to get that clear.
:
:Leave that to me, as previously agreed, !not joking again.  Exactly
:like when asked if being approached by a three letter agency for
:special code agreements, known to have at least one happening on
:commercialised kernels.  One of them examples again, any patterns?
:
:Must be a political thing that comes with infectious spread, gladly
:affecting only operating systems like tools with legal departments.
:
:> > Better, influence highly skilled programmers, friends, colleagues,
:> > partners, clients, the wide public, classmates, coeds, teachers, book
:> > authors and everyone important of the truly free good licenses:
:> > 
:> > http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html
:> > 
:> > Most projects out of misinformation pick what some other project did
:> > before them and get stuffed with the dysfunctional limiting newer and
:> > older versions of the non-Unix recurring acronym advocates of
:> > incompatible with freedom politics.  Quality software projects first!
:> > 
:> > Then educate the worthy developers of useful programs to benefit from
:> > and improve their own software products by using correct and free
:> > standard compliant coding practices and innovation from the OpenBSD
:> > project:
:> > 
:> > http://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html
:> > 
:> > Also, popularise to the wide global public that software running
:> > successfully on OpenBSD and designed to benefit from the modern best
:> > current practices in OpenBSD is inherently multiple orders of magnitude
:> > better offset from the start compared to portable incapable slow
:> > adoption single kernel only platforms targeting mass consumption only.
:> > 
:> > And for the business users, let them know that OpenBSD is chosen by
:> > many more industry leading companies from all over the world for the
:> > first class quality of example setting software, that is actually in
:> > active live maintenance for more than 20 years and brought tools and
:> > solution all of them use without even realising it most of the time.
:> > 
:> > http://www.openbsd.org/
:> > 
:> > OpenBSD provides the best development platform possible and much much
:> > more, goals of the project are continuously being met with successful
:> > continuation with each release and more over in between:
:> > 
:> > http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
:> > 
:> > But before all this, why not just help test the upcoming release by
:> > running latest snapshots and not care for any incoming distractions?
:> > 
:> > The example OpenBSD sets is quality, ease of use, best developers, and
:> > widest adopted true solutions.
:

-- 
I often quote myself; it adds spice to my conversation.
-- G. B. Shaw

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[lists]

Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman 
> Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD!

Better, influence highly skilled programmers, friends, colleagues,
partners, clients, the wide public, classmates, coeds, teachers, book
authors and everyone important of the truly free good licenses:

http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html

Most projects out of misinformation pick what some other project did
before them and get stuffed with the dysfunctional limiting newer and
older versions of the non-Unix recurring acronym advocates of
incompatible with freedom politics.  Quality software projects first!

Then educate the worthy developers of useful programs to benefit from
and improve their own software products by using correct and free
standard compliant coding practices and innovation from the OpenBSD
project:

http://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html

Also, popularise to the wide global public that software running
successfully on OpenBSD and designed to benefit from the modern best
current practices in OpenBSD is inherently multiple orders of magnitude
better offset from the start compared to portable incapable slow
adoption single kernel only platforms targeting mass consumption only.

And for the business users, let them know that OpenBSD is chosen by
many more industry leading companies from all over the world for the
first class quality of example setting software, that is actually in
active live maintenance for more than 20 years and brought tools and
solution all of them use without even realising it most of the time.

http://www.openbsd.org/

OpenBSD provides the best development platform possible and much much
more, goals of the project are continuously being met with successful
continuation with each release and more over in between:

http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html

But before all this, why not just help test the upcoming release by
running latest snapshots and not care for any incoming distractions?

The example OpenBSD sets is quality, ease of use, best developers, and
widest adopted true solutions.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[lists]

Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:12:58 -0500 Eric Furman 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:10 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote:
> > Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman   
> > > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD!  
> ^
> 
> Whoa whoa whoa, that is not what I wrote.
> I wrote OS400 and it was a joke.

So appears to be the outrageous topic, well covering up the shocking
facts that new-ware bugs are becoming more and excruciatingly deadlier
fatal ever since last leap leap year.  What an example NOT to get
inspired from: rewriting Unix poorly.

> I'm not going to anybody's list and preaching anything.
> Just to get that clear.

Leave that to me, as previously agreed, !not joking again.  Exactly
like when asked if being approached by a three letter agency for
special code agreements, known to have at least one happening on
commercialised kernels.  One of them examples again, any patterns?

Must be a political thing that comes with infectious spread, gladly
affecting only operating systems like tools with legal departments.

> > Better, influence highly skilled programmers, friends, colleagues,
> > partners, clients, the wide public, classmates, coeds, teachers, book
> > authors and everyone important of the truly free good licenses:
> > 
> > http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html
> > 
> > Most projects out of misinformation pick what some other project did
> > before them and get stuffed with the dysfunctional limiting newer and
> > older versions of the non-Unix recurring acronym advocates of
> > incompatible with freedom politics.  Quality software projects first!
> > 
> > Then educate the worthy developers of useful programs to benefit from
> > and improve their own software products by using correct and free
> > standard compliant coding practices and innovation from the OpenBSD
> > project:
> > 
> > http://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html
> > 
> > Also, popularise to the wide global public that software running
> > successfully on OpenBSD and designed to benefit from the modern best
> > current practices in OpenBSD is inherently multiple orders of magnitude
> > better offset from the start compared to portable incapable slow
> > adoption single kernel only platforms targeting mass consumption only.
> > 
> > And for the business users, let them know that OpenBSD is chosen by
> > many more industry leading companies from all over the world for the
> > first class quality of example setting software, that is actually in
> > active live maintenance for more than 20 years and brought tools and
> > solution all of them use without even realising it most of the time.
> > 
> > http://www.openbsd.org/
> > 
> > OpenBSD provides the best development platform possible and much much
> > more, goals of the project are continuously being met with successful
> > continuation with each release and more over in between:
> > 
> > http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
> > 
> > But before all this, why not just help test the upcoming release by
> > running latest snapshots and not care for any incoming distractions?
> > 
> > The example OpenBSD sets is quality, ease of use, best developers, and
> > widest adopted true solutions.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Steve Litt]

Hi Gareth,

Yes, I too understand the frustration with trolls who come on a
software's mailing list unflatteringly comparing it to an alternative.
That's just troll crap.

But I'm not fond of the phrase "GNU/Linux douche bags". Does being a
credible BSD guy require a litmus test of repudiating Linux?

SteveT

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:31:04 +
Gareth Nelson  wrote:

> I'm also a big GNU/Linux fan, but I can understand the frustration of
> people who constantly give credit to others for their work.
> 
> The GNU project did not inspire BSD.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Steve Litt
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:23:27 -0500
> > Eric Furman  wrote:
> >  
> > > OS400 people don't come on this list and discuss their operating
> > > system. VOS people don't come on this list and discuss their
> > > operating system. Hell, even Windows people don't come on this
> > > list and discuss their OS. I'm totally confused as to why we
> > > constantly get GNU/Linux douche bags on this list wanting to talk
> > > about GNU/Linux. Here's a heads up; WE DO NOT CARE.  
> >
> > As a GNU/Linux douche bag, I'm wondering why the strong reaction?
> > Has somebody hit a nerve? I thought this discussion was just
> > bumbling along til you made it a big thing(tm).
> >
> > I mean, we GNU/Linux douche bags discuss the various BSDs, on our
> > mailing lists, regularly. The primary way the discussion happens is
> > to evaluate whether GNU/Linux or one of the BSDs should be used for
> > a specific situation, given that Linux and BSD can often solve the
> > same set of problems. Nobody ever calls anyone else a BSD douche
> > bag. We like BSD and its community.
> >
> > Until you posted this, nobody in this thread said bad things about
> > Linux or its users. Tough day?
> >
> > By the way, you spelled douchebag wrong: It has no spaces.
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt
> > February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence
> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/key  

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Eric Furman]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:10 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote:
> Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman 
> > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD!
^^

Whoa whoa whoa, that is not what I wrote.
I wrote OS400 and it was a joke.
I'm not going to anybody's list and preaching anything.
Just to get that clear.

> 
> Better, influence highly skilled programmers, friends, colleagues,
> partners, clients, the wide public, classmates, coeds, teachers, book
> authors and everyone important of the truly free good licenses:
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html
> 
> Most projects out of misinformation pick what some other project did
> before them and get stuffed with the dysfunctional limiting newer and
> older versions of the non-Unix recurring acronym advocates of
> incompatible with freedom politics.  Quality software projects first!
> 
> Then educate the worthy developers of useful programs to benefit from
> and improve their own software products by using correct and free
> standard compliant coding practices and innovation from the OpenBSD
> project:
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html
> 
> Also, popularise to the wide global public that software running
> successfully on OpenBSD and designed to benefit from the modern best
> current practices in OpenBSD is inherently multiple orders of magnitude
> better offset from the start compared to portable incapable slow
> adoption single kernel only platforms targeting mass consumption only.
> 
> And for the business users, let them know that OpenBSD is chosen by
> many more industry leading companies from all over the world for the
> first class quality of example setting software, that is actually in
> active live maintenance for more than 20 years and brought tools and
> solution all of them use without even realising it most of the time.
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org/
> 
> OpenBSD provides the best development platform possible and much much
> more, goals of the project are continuously being met with successful
> continuation with each release and more over in between:
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
> 
> But before all this, why not just help test the upcoming release by
> running latest snapshots and not care for any incoming distractions?
> 
> The example OpenBSD sets is quality, ease of use, best developers, and
> widest adopted true solutions.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Eric Furman]

> Eric Furman wrote on Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:23:27PM -0500:
> 
> > OS400 people don't come on this list and discuss their operating system.
> > VOS people don't come on this list and discuss their operating system.
> > Hell, even Windows people don't come on this list and discuss their OS.
> > I'm totally confused as to why we constantly get GNU/Linux douche bags
> > on this list wanting to talk about GNU/Linux.
> > Here's a heads up; WE DO NOT CARE.

Sorry if I offended replying to this obvious troll.
It was not my intention to disparage all Linux users.
But that being said, we do get a frustratingly large number
of them on these lists that have no intention of having either
a rational or civil discussion about Linux vs BSD.
Not all Linux users are douche bags, but the Linux trolls
that frequent this list are. If you're not one of them, you know
who you are. ;)
I normally don't like replying to trolls, but this one did hit a
nerve, as someone pointed out. :)

BTW, it can be spelled either way.

Now I'm off to the OS400 lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD!

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[ropers]

On 17 February 2016 at 04:23, Eric Furman  wrote:

> I'm totally confused as to why we constantly get GNU/Linux douche bags
> on this list wanting to talk about GNU/Linux.
>

To get equal time to teach the controversy?

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Gareth Nelson]

I'm also a big GNU/Linux fan, but I can understand the frustration of
people who constantly give credit to others for their work.

The GNU project did not inspire BSD.


On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Steve Litt 
wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:23:27 -0500
> Eric Furman  wrote:
>
> > OS400 people don't come on this list and discuss their operating
> > system. VOS people don't come on this list and discuss their
> > operating system. Hell, even Windows people don't come on this list
> > and discuss their OS. I'm totally confused as to why we constantly
> > get GNU/Linux douche bags on this list wanting to talk about
> > GNU/Linux. Here's a heads up; WE DO NOT CARE.
>
> As a GNU/Linux douche bag, I'm wondering why the strong reaction? Has
> somebody hit a nerve? I thought this discussion was just bumbling along
> til you made it a big thing(tm).
>
> I mean, we GNU/Linux douche bags discuss the various BSDs, on our
> mailing lists, regularly. The primary way the discussion happens is to
> evaluate whether GNU/Linux or one of the BSDs should be used for a
> specific situation, given that Linux and BSD can often solve the same
> set of problems. Nobody ever calls anyone else a BSD douche bag. We
> like BSD and its community.
>
> Until you posted this, nobody in this thread said bad things about
> Linux or its users. Tough day?
>
> By the way, you spelled douchebag wrong: It has no spaces.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Peter N. M. Hansteen]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:09:01AM -0700, Jorge Luis wrote:
> Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
> software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
> activists helped persuade them?

No. BSD predates the GNU project. 

> If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?

Others have already supplied references to useful literature. I would suggest 
you
read those things. Several other useful references are just a simple web search 
away. 

- Peter
-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[ludovic coues]

2016-02-17 7:43 GMT+01:00 Steve Litt :
>
> As a GNU/Linux douche bag, I'm wondering why the strong reaction? Has
> somebody hit a nerve? I thought this discussion was just bumbling along
> til you made it a big thing(tm).
>

GNU or Linux are no subject of discussion on this mailing list. The
netiquette[1] is quite clear. Before posting here, people are supposed
to do their homework and the subject of the post has to be relevant to
OpenBSD user.
A quick search on the internet would show that BSD predate GNU.
Original poster would have got their answer within 10 minutes without
the need to post a troll bait.


[1] http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Peter Hessler]

On 2016 Feb 17 (Wed) at 01:43:29 -0500 (-0500), Steve Litt wrote:
:On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:23:27 -0500
:Eric Furman  wrote:
:
:> OS400 people don't come on this list and discuss their operating
:> system. VOS people don't come on this list and discuss their
:> operating system. Hell, even Windows people don't come on this list
:> and discuss their OS. I'm totally confused as to why we constantly
:> get GNU/Linux douche bags on this list wanting to talk about
:> GNU/Linux. Here's a heads up; WE DO NOT CARE.
:
:As a GNU/Linux douche bag, I'm wondering why the strong reaction? Has
:somebody hit a nerve? I thought this discussion was just bumbling along
:til you made it a big thing(tm).

This discussion is completely insulting.

The Subject line alone is designed to imply we didn't do the things we
actually did, and to give praise to those that falsely deserve it.

It is a troll question, written in a troll way.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:23:27 -0500
Eric Furman  wrote:

> OS400 people don't come on this list and discuss their operating
> system. VOS people don't come on this list and discuss their
> operating system. Hell, even Windows people don't come on this list
> and discuss their OS. I'm totally confused as to why we constantly
> get GNU/Linux douche bags on this list wanting to talk about
> GNU/Linux. Here's a heads up; WE DO NOT CARE.

As a GNU/Linux douche bag, I'm wondering why the strong reaction? Has
somebody hit a nerve? I thought this discussion was just bumbling along
til you made it a big thing(tm).

I mean, we GNU/Linux douche bags discuss the various BSDs, on our
mailing lists, regularly. The primary way the discussion happens is to
evaluate whether GNU/Linux or one of the BSDs should be used for a
specific situation, given that Linux and BSD can often solve the same
set of problems. Nobody ever calls anyone else a BSD douche bag. We
like BSD and its community.

Until you posted this, nobody in this thread said bad things about
Linux or its users. Tough day? 

By the way, you spelled douchebag wrong: It has no spaces.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Eric Furman]

OS400 people don't come on this list and discuss their operating system.
VOS people don't come on this list and discuss their operating system.
Hell, even Windows people don't come on this list and discuss their OS.
I'm totally confused as to why we constantly get GNU/Linux douche bags
on this list wanting to talk about GNU/Linux.
Here's a heads up; WE DO NOT CARE.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[lists]

Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:26:54 -0800 Chris Cappuccio 
> Yes
> The great example of Richard Stallman set the University of
> California Berkeley on their righteous way to make AT Unix System V
> free for all!!!

A historic example, not related, long time ago chose political career
directing lawyers, advocates and salesmen over free for all.  Must be
the age thing, zoo director analogy comes to mind.

Was it not Ken who visited Berkeley?  To be brutal, the free
software happened with or without (and despite) any advocates.

Creating a half-assed multi-version unreadable crap semi (pseudo) free
encumbered licences helps corporations harvest free labour.  Deal with
it, now back to OpenBSD related talk.

Thank you, Chris for adding a bit a humour sunshine today!  And OpenBSD
for providing the sanity and correctness.

> I'm glad this history is finally being discovered and talked about on
> the OpenBSD mailing lists.

As marketing bullshit, meaning, polluting OpenBSD mailing lists.

> It's very important that everyone sees the true greatness of Richard
> Stallman and the GNU project, without which, we would not have GNU
> Hurd.

Sarcastically caustic to the bone!

> Jorge Luis [jorgeluiscorreioeletron...@gmail.com] is a troll.
> > If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Raul Miller]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law might also be relevant.

-- 
Raul


On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:29 PM, David Vasek  wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Alexey Suslikov wrote:
>
>> Jorge Luis  gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
>>> software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
>>> activists helped persuade them?
>>>
>>> If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?
>>
>>
>> http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#44
>
>
> Also, for better understanding don't forget to read this too:
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#43
>
> Regards,
> David

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[David Vasek]

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Alexey Suslikov wrote:


Jorge Luis  gmail.com> writes:


Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
activists helped persuade them?

If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?


http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#44


Also, for better understanding don't forget to read this too:

http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#43

Regards,
David

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Chris Cappuccio]

Karel Gardas [gard...@gmail.com] wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Chris Cappuccio  wrote:
> >
> > It's very important that everyone sees the true greatness of Richard 
> > Stallman and the GNU project, without which, we would not have GNU Hurd.
> 
> or without which we would not be able to compile our OS? Let's stay
> honest OpenBSD still depends on GNU while using binutils/gcc in the
> tree. Perl probably too I would guess. Don't know if there is more
> GPLed code in the tree...
> 

More popular platforms could be moved to non-GNU tools, such as llvm,
elftoolchain, lld

Perl is not GNU licensed, but the Artistic license is unique enough
that it is kept in /usr/src/gnu

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Karel Gardas]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Chris Cappuccio  wrote:
>
> It's very important that everyone sees the true greatness of Richard Stallman 
> and the GNU project, without which, we would not have GNU Hurd.

or without which we would not be able to compile our OS? Let's stay
honest OpenBSD still depends on GNU while using binutils/gcc in the
tree. Perl probably too I would guess. Don't know if there is more
GPLed code in the tree...

Anyway, original paragraph was complete nonsense of course...

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Richard Thornton]

I would read McKusick's book on FreeBSD. He gives a good historical accounting
of the BSD's. Also the book Raymond's book "The Cathedral and the Bazaar". 

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
  Original Message  
From: Jorge Luis
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:08 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
activists helped persuade them?

It is written in article 'Linux and the GNU System' posted in GNU Operating
System:

"People sometimes ask whether BSD too is a version of GNU, like GNU/Linux.
The BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the
example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped
persuade them, but the code had little overlap with GNU. BSD systems today
use some GNU programs, just as the GNU system and its variants use some BSD
programs; however, taken as wholes, they are two different systems that
evolved separately. The BSD developers did not write a kernel and add it to
the GNU system, and a name like GNU/BSD would not fit the situation.(5)"

Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
activists helped persuade them?

If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?



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Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Chris Cappuccio]

Yes
The great example of Richard Stallman set the University of California Berkeley 
on their righteous way to make AT Unix System V free for all!!!

I'm glad this history is finally being discovered and talked about on the 
OpenBSD mailing lists.

It's very important that everyone sees the true greatness of Richard Stallman 
and the GNU project, without which, we would not have GNU Hurd.

Jorge Luis [jorgeluiscorreioeletron...@gmail.com] wrote:
> It is written in article 'Linux and the GNU System' posted in GNU Operating
> System:
> 
> "People sometimes ask whether BSD too is a version of GNU, like GNU/Linux.
> The BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the
> example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped
> persuade them, but the code had little overlap with GNU. BSD systems today
> use some GNU programs, just as the GNU system and its variants use some BSD
> programs; however, taken as wholes, they are two different systems that
> evolved separately. The BSD developers did not write a kernel and add it to
> the GNU system, and a name like GNU/BSD would not fit the situation.(5)"
> 
> Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
> software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
> activists helped persuade them?
> 
> If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?
> 
> 
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Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Alexey Suslikov]

Jorge Luis  gmail.com> writes:

> Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
> software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
> activists helped persuade them?
> 
> If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?

http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#44

Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

[Jorge Luis]

It is written in article 'Linux and the GNU System' posted in GNU Operating
System:

"People sometimes ask whether BSD too is a version of GNU, like GNU/Linux.
The BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the
example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped
persuade them, but the code had little overlap with GNU. BSD systems today
use some GNU programs, just as the GNU system and its variants use some BSD
programs; however, taken as wholes, they are two different systems that
evolved separately. The BSD developers did not write a kernel and add it to
the GNU system, and a name like GNU/BSD would not fit the situation.(5)"

Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free
software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU
activists helped persuade them?

If no, what is the true story of BSD developers?



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