Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Theo de Raadt [dera...@openbsd.org] wrote:
> 
> The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc.
> 

I bought a Sun 4/110 over Usenet, ran the venerable SunOS 4.1.3, and later
NetBSD. When I was 16, and a bit before Chuck and Theo setup anoncvs, or there
was even an OpenBSD web site, Theo started putting his first "OpenBSD" sparc
kernels on ftp.theos.com. I ran it with my NetBSD userland. The improvements
to the sun 4/110 "sw" driver was dramatic, the disk went from 100KB/sec to
1.1MB/sec with DMA support.

Now I had a modern system that would compile and operate current software on
the internet without retrofit work (even in 1995, SunOS 4.1.3 was dated
compared to NetBSD) and the disk was back to SunOS speeds! This was so cool.

And here it's still going, 20 years later! I didn't even know what 20
years was...



Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-19 Thread luke350
Just another thanks for the top quality work, making software not seem 
like an embarrassment to humanity.


Honesty and the golden rule go a really long way, IMO.   OpenBSD seems 
to play by those rules, to a degree that surprises people.


Thanks.



Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-19 Thread Diana Eichert

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Theo de Raadt wrote:


OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old.

I recall the import taking about 3 hours on an EISA-bus 486 with two
ESDI drives.  There was an import attempt a few days earlier, but it
failed due to insufficient space.  It took some time to repartition
the machine.

It wasn't terribly long before David Miller, Chuck Cranor and Niklas
Hallqvist were commiting... then more people showed up.

The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc.

Chuck and I also worked on setting up the first 'anoncvs' to make sure
noone was ever cut out from 'the language of diffs' again.  I guess
that was the precursor for the github concept these days :-).  People
forget, but even FSF was a walled garden at the time -- throwing tar
files with vague logs over the wall every couple months.

I was lucky to have one of the few 64Kbit ISDN links in town,
otherwise this would not have happened.  My desktop was a Sparcstation
10; the third machine I had was a very slow 386.

The project is now at:

~322,000 commits
~44 commits/day average
~356 hackers through the years


I wish I still had my old mail server.

I remember sending an email to Theo when I was trying to bring up my
first OpenBSD system in early '96.  If I remember correctly installation 
was pretty sparse, I was used to FreeBSD 2.x hand holding.  Theo said

something to the effect of "if you can't figure out how to install
OpenBSD you should not be using it."  Well I went away and figured out
how to install OpenBSD and have been using it ever since.

thanks again for a great O/S

diana



Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread lists
One happy user wishing everyone many more cycles! Heart warming stories
of the 20 years of OpenBSD development.

Theo de Raadt  wrote:
> The project is now at:
> 
> ~322,000 commits
> ~44 commits/day average
> ~356 hackers through the years

Thank you, Theo and friends for proving it's possible to set the right
goals and work up to them, and share to become the example, and standard.

Singing along, best regards!



Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread Fred

On 10/18/15 07:36, Theo de Raadt wrote:

OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old.

I recall the import taking about 3 hours on an EISA-bus 486 with two
ESDI drives.  There was an import attempt a few days earlier, but it
failed due to insufficient space.  It took some time to repartition
the machine.

It wasn't terribly long before David Miller, Chuck Cranor and Niklas
Hallqvist were commiting... then more people showed up.

The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc.

Chuck and I also worked on setting up the first 'anoncvs' to make sure
noone was ever cut out from 'the language of diffs' again.  I guess
that was the precursor for the github concept these days :-).  People
forget, but even FSF was a walled garden at the time -- throwing tar
files with vague logs over the wall every couple months.

I was lucky to have one of the few 64Kbit ISDN links in town,
otherwise this would not have happened.  My desktop was a Sparcstation
10; the third machine I had was a very slow 386.

The project is now at:

~322,000 commits
~44 commits/day average
~356 hackers through the years



Looking forward to the next 20 years!

Thanks to all the deveopers for such a great OS!

Cheers

Fred



It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old.

I recall the import taking about 3 hours on an EISA-bus 486 with two
ESDI drives.  There was an import attempt a few days earlier, but it
failed due to insufficient space.  It took some time to repartition
the machine.

It wasn't terribly long before David Miller, Chuck Cranor and Niklas
Hallqvist were commiting... then more people showed up.

The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc.

Chuck and I also worked on setting up the first 'anoncvs' to make sure
noone was ever cut out from 'the language of diffs' again.  I guess
that was the precursor for the github concept these days :-).  People
forget, but even FSF was a walled garden at the time -- throwing tar
files with vague logs over the wall every couple months.

I was lucky to have one of the few 64Kbit ISDN links in town,
otherwise this would not have happened.  My desktop was a Sparcstation
10; the third machine I had was a very slow 386.

The project is now at:

~322,000 commits
~44 commits/day average
~356 hackers through the years

--

On this day, is my pleasure to give you a song written for the
release by Todd Miller.

http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#58a

It was twenty years ago you see
Theo opened a cvs tree
Made commits to many a file
Joined by others in a very short while

Take a moment to view
The source of all this code
The openbsd cvs repo...

We're the openssh repository
We hope you will enjoy the code
The openntpd repository
But that's not all that's here oh no...
The mandoc 'pository, smtpd 'tory
The libressl repo too

It's wonderful to see the code
Re-used far and wide
The license is so liberal
We'd love for you to code with us
We'd love for you to code...

I don't really want to have to go
But it's hackathon time and so
The coder will commit the code
That he wants all of you to load

So let me introduce to you the one and only Puffy Fish
And the openbsd cvs repo...

B... S... D...

--

(The 5.8 release will be announced and released in a few hours.)



Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread Jay Patel
Happy Birthday. And congratulations. :)

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> wrote:

> OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old.
>
> I recall the import taking about 3 hours on an EISA-bus 486 with two
> ESDI drives.  There was an import attempt a few days earlier, but it
> failed due to insufficient space.  It took some time to repartition
> the machine.
>
> It wasn't terribly long before David Miller, Chuck Cranor and Niklas
> Hallqvist were commiting... then more people showed up.
>
> The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc.
>
> Chuck and I also worked on setting up the first 'anoncvs' to make sure
> noone was ever cut out from 'the language of diffs' again.  I guess
> that was the precursor for the github concept these days :-).  People
> forget, but even FSF was a walled garden at the time -- throwing tar
> files with vague logs over the wall every couple months.
>
> I was lucky to have one of the few 64Kbit ISDN links in town,
> otherwise this would not have happened.  My desktop was a Sparcstation
> 10; the third machine I had was a very slow 386.
>
> The project is now at:
>
> ~322,000 commits
> ~44 commits/day average
> ~356 hackers through the years
>
> --
>
> On this day, is my pleasure to give you a song written for the
> release by Todd Miller.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#58a
>
> It was twenty years ago you see
> Theo opened a cvs tree
> Made commits to many a file
> Joined by others in a very short while
>
> Take a moment to view
> The source of all this code
> The openbsd cvs repo...
>
> We're the openssh repository
> We hope you will enjoy the code
> The openntpd repository
> But that's not all that's here oh no...
> The mandoc 'pository, smtpd 'tory
> The libressl repo too
>
> It's wonderful to see the code
> Re-used far and wide
> The license is so liberal
> We'd love for you to code with us
> We'd love for you to code...
>
> I don't really want to have to go
> But it's hackathon time and so
> The coder will commit the code
> That he wants all of you to load
>
> So let me introduce to you the one and only Puffy Fish
> And the openbsd cvs repo...
>
> B... S... D...
>
> --
>
> (The 5.8 release will be announced and released in a few hours.)



Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread Siju George
It has been 15 years or so
I had no degree, so no job
One kind soul called me to be
An apprentice without salary

Windows 2000 & Zonealarm
Was the firewall where I was
Once in 3 months required a reinstall
Because it became the cracker's ball

An apprentice not knowing too much
About networking far less securing
Began to google for a Linux firewall
But came across PF firewall

Went around asking for help
To install OpenBSD in firm
All I got from the Linux Gurus
Was discouragement, said it 's tough

Started reading the Install doc
Took a month to understand 'slice'
Partitions inside partition
Slowly things began to click

I learned things on 3.4
Had a firewall by 3.5 :-) (
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article=20041013190823 )
Then there was no newbies list
misc@ that time was a little tough ;-)

The book would cost my 2 salaries
So there was no hope but misc@
Seeing my misery to comprehend
Two books J C Roberts sent

Soon I had a secure desktop in hand( https://goo.gl/142mRd )
And I loved it with all of my heart
Made my firm purchase CDs
Soon our backups were too in it.( http://goo.gl/ig2cRc, http://goo.gl/jExnCY
)

Now there is no looking back
Even EU said that they too back ( http://goo.gl/pNohhq )
Twenty years is no small thing
But Theo should not be relaxing ;-)

Thank you very much Theo and all developers. I learned a lot about security
just by reading through the misc mails and googling things I didn't
understand. And got kicked out from many free software mailinglists for
advocating OpenBSD and the BSD licence ;-)







On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> wrote:

> OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old.
>
> I recall the import taking about 3 hours on an EISA-bus 486 with two
> ESDI drives.  There was an import attempt a few days earlier, but it
> failed due to insufficient space.  It took some time to repartition
> the machine.
>
> It wasn't terribly long before David Miller, Chuck Cranor and Niklas
> Hallqvist were commiting... then more people showed up.
>
> The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc.
>
> Chuck and I also worked on setting up the first 'anoncvs' to make sure
> noone was ever cut out from 'the language of diffs' again.  I guess
> that was the precursor for the github concept these days :-).  People
> forget, but even FSF was a walled garden at the time -- throwing tar
> files with vague logs over the wall every couple months.
>
> I was lucky to have one of the few 64Kbit ISDN links in town,
> otherwise this would not have happened.  My desktop was a Sparcstation
> 10; the third machine I had was a very slow 386.
>
> The project is now at:
>
> ~322,000 commits
> ~44 commits/day average
> ~356 hackers through the years
>
> --
>
> On this day, is my pleasure to give you a song written for the
> release by Todd Miller.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#58a
>
> It was twenty years ago you see
> Theo opened a cvs tree
> Made commits to many a file
> Joined by others in a very short while
>
> Take a moment to view
> The source of all this code
> The openbsd cvs repo...
>
> We're the openssh repository
> We hope you will enjoy the code
> The openntpd repository
> But that's not all that's here oh no...
> The mandoc 'pository, smtpd 'tory
> The libressl repo too
>
> It's wonderful to see the code
> Re-used far and wide
> The license is so liberal
> We'd love for you to code with us
> We'd love for you to code...
>
> I don't really want to have to go
> But it's hackathon time and so
> The coder will commit the code
> That he wants all of you to load
>
> So let me introduce to you the one and only Puffy Fish
> And the openbsd cvs repo...
>
> B... S... D...
>
> --
>
> (The 5.8 release will be announced and released in a few hours.)



Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread ilyes aiouaz

Happy Birthday. And thanks to Theo and all the deveopers for OpenBSD !
A great OS. Congratulations.


Le 10/18/15 07:36, Theo de Raadt a écrit :

OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old.

I recall the import taking about 3 hours on an EISA-bus 486 with two
ESDI drives.  There was an import attempt a few days earlier, but it
failed due to insufficient space.  It took some time to repartition
the machine.

It wasn't terribly long before David Miller, Chuck Cranor and Niklas
Hallqvist were commiting... then more people showed up.

The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc.

Chuck and I also worked on setting up the first 'anoncvs' to make sure
noone was ever cut out from 'the language of diffs' again.  I guess
that was the precursor for the github concept these days :-).  People
forget, but even FSF was a walled garden at the time -- throwing tar
files with vague logs over the wall every couple months.

I was lucky to have one of the few 64Kbit ISDN links in town,
otherwise this would not have happened.  My desktop was a Sparcstation
10; the third machine I had was a very slow 386.

The project is now at:

~322,000 commits
~44 commits/day average
~356 hackers through the years

--

On this day, is my pleasure to give you a song written for the
release by Todd Miller.

http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#58a

It was twenty years ago you see
Theo opened a cvs tree
Made commits to many a file
Joined by others in a very short while

Take a moment to view
The source of all this code
The openbsd cvs repo...

We're the openssh repository
We hope you will enjoy the code
The openntpd repository
But that's not all that's here oh no...
The mandoc 'pository, smtpd 'tory
The libressl repo too

It's wonderful to see the code
Re-used far and wide
The license is so liberal
We'd love for you to code with us
We'd love for you to code...

I don't really want to have to go
But it's hackathon time and so
The coder will commit the code
That he wants all of you to load

So let me introduce to you the one and only Puffy Fish
And the openbsd cvs repo...

B... S... D...

--

(The 5.8 release will be announced and released in a few hours.)




Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread bofh
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Theo de Raadt  wrote:

> OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old.
>

I discovered OpenBSD a couple of years later, and have been a fan since
then.  Thank you and the other developers very very much for the quality of
work, and the passion you put in to make the world a better place.