Re: Jacek Books
On 16 February 2010 12:26, SJP Lists sjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote: In fact, I have worked in landmark copyright cases for one of the Worlds most successful IP lawyers (and continue to do so). IP lawyers, eh? Exactly what is this IP you speak of? (SCNR.) regards, --ropers
Re: Jacek Books
By posting regarding this situation, possibly it will help others from being swindled. I paid for the Firewall Book, and as stated, did receive a few PDF's, but that's it, no paper copy. Going through PayPal is is waste of time, as their time limits have been exceeded many times over (my purchase was Feb 13, 2009) for filing a complaint, unless I'm mistaken. When someone is ripping others off left and right, who gives a hang about copyrights ? Were I not honest, I surely wouldn't; I'd get what I paid for any way I could. Alas, I guess I just lost out, as it's evident from the site that business is in full swing and payment is being accepted by 2 methods. I guess I should have also noted that Artymiak was a Non-verified US vendor on PayPal. Live and learn I guess, at times the very hard way. I really expected much more from Artymiak. On 2/15/2010 2:31 PM, Corey wrote: On 02/15/2010 01:33 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Im agree with you Aaron, but i bought his books on 14 september 2009, and an other book on 14 october 2009. If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... And why sell books when nobody to occupies his website? Even if he is ill, it is not a reason (he has to stop selling ebooks) Thank's Report him to PayPal. Depending on the terms of his copyrights, it may not be legal for someone else to send you a copy of his works. And if he is not responding to your personal emails, it is unlikely that posting on this list is going to help any further.
Re: Jacek Books
The real point in all of this is that, right or wrong, it doesn't belong on this mailing list. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:51:16PM -0600, Bill Dunshie wrote: By posting regarding this situation, possibly it will help others from being swindled. I paid for the Firewall Book, and as stated, did receive a few PDF's, but that's it, no paper copy. Going through PayPal is is waste of time, as their time limits have been exceeded many times over (my purchase was Feb 13, 2009) for filing a complaint, unless I'm mistaken. When someone is ripping others off left and right, who gives a hang about copyrights ? Were I not honest, I surely wouldn't; I'd get what I paid for any way I could. Alas, I guess I just lost out, as it's evident from the site that business is in full swing and payment is being accepted by 2 methods. I guess I should have also noted that Artymiak was a Non-verified US vendor on PayPal. Live and learn I guess, at times the very hard way. I really expected much more from Artymiak. On 2/15/2010 2:31 PM, Corey wrote: On 02/15/2010 01:33 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Im agree with you Aaron, but i bought his books on 14 september 2009, and an other book on 14 october 2009. If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... And why sell books when nobody to occupies his website? Even if he is ill, it is not a reason (he has to stop selling ebooks) Thank's Report him to PayPal. Depending on the terms of his copyrights, it may not be legal for someone else to send you a copy of his works. And if he is not responding to your personal emails, it is unlikely that posting on this list is going to help any further.
Re: Jacek Books
On 16 February 2010 06:33, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... I have been waiting too. But I have heard people speak of Jacek being ill a few times over the years, to the point that his publications get delayed. Leading me to think that he has something more serious than a cold. I'm concerned about his health first and foremost. I'm looking forward to the book but I don't want it hurried if the cost is his health. Shane
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:06:32PM +1100, SJP Lists wrote: On 16 February 2010 06:33, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... I have been waiting too. But I have heard people speak of Jacek being ill a few times over the years, to the point that his publications get delayed. Leading me to think that he has something more serious than a cold. I'm concerned about his health first and foremost. I'm looking forward to the book but I don't want it hurried if the cost is his health. I agree that it is not good to pay and not receive anything. So you dispute the deal via the proper channels to get your stuff or your money back. Breaking copyright law to get your goods is not the right way. -Otto
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On 16 February 2010 19:34, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:06:32PM +1100, SJP Lists wrote: On 16 February 2010 06:33, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... I have been waiting too. But I have heard people speak of Jacek being ill a few times over the years, to the point that his publications get delayed. Leading me to think that he has something more serious than a cold. I'm concerned about his health first and foremost. I'm looking forward to the book but I don't want it hurried if the cost is his health. I agree that it is not good to pay and not receive anything. So you dispute the deal via the proper channels to get your stuff or your money back. Breaking copyright law to get your goods is not the right way. I agree. But for the record, I personally never suggested or supported the idea that copyright infringement is a solution to this problem. In fact, I have worked in landmark copyright cases for one of the Worlds most successful IP lawyers (and continue to do so). Including tendering evidence to court as a witness and being cross examined. So for many reasons, I wouldn't dare. Shane
Re: Jacek Books
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 J.C. Roberts wrote: Stop bitching and think. 1.) You do not have a name. You only have an email address. 2.) If your email address really indicates your location, then you are on a tiny island *EAST* of Madagascar in the Indian ocean. 3.) Although the island or Reunion is technically part of France, and hence technically part of the EU, most people believe GMT +0400 is outside of the EU. To put it bluntly, this is the very first time I have *EVER* seen the .re ccTLD being used. Jacek is a good guy, but considering the above, most people selling goods on the Internet would expect a scam. Your order probably got caught up by automated scam filters in the order processing system (e.g. an EU credit card being used with a seemingly non-EU shipping address). This is unfortunate, but for you, it's a fact of life. I've had a PayPal account for over 10 years, and in that time I have purchased electronic media, like *.pdf files, which is what Jacek is selling, quite a few times. The payment arrives in the seller's PayPal account, and after a few days (as opposed to a few months, as appears to be the case in this situation) there is zero chance of the funds being unavailable to the seller. Usually, professional sellers of electronic media have the process automated, sending an email to the purchaser, containing the URL for download, and a unique login key/password, which is good for a limited amount of time. Jacek may be a good guy, and suspecting a scam is a sensible strategy, but a responsible seller, who had received payment, would be wise to see that his/her paying customers were well taken care of. I sell artwork on my dotcom domain, which is a physical entity, as opposed to electronic media, and which requires shipping, as opposed to electronic delivery. I receive both genuine and scam requests for purchase. It's pretty easy to tell one from the other. - -- - -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ http://robertwittig.net/ http://robertwittig.org/ . Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBS3p6EP9qkhAVPSgqAQKU8wf/aoQqvkmyoFU19XG2ROlnEt2UNH3s8577 kQIMkSvBWtWCsx6YQBTTjBXdK2oDNuUxXiEcCykj4VpwqAW45AgqHs87cl+qHMTx 3N7zbVbuFt+BS2wxnbdx1GwbsVQm04xpiN1vTYVFVhWmSpfb+mKtXVI1c2KlQmfD NxVrMhzgmfh4MlbJZ+qQQOjBP56O8fmRQkBEhF6cAO6BFuC8Gd0R+qvayelCq0q+ gBtWP7EhL1un9q3bjhWVFhSnSErHL0Ng4CO7fpQwSP4DcgST8hDzkbv70VxeyE6R UODRxZbDHHSCa0XBjpe+mSFy1UamM+AeyEQgf1px8xPCFF9AcQ42WA== =SgM2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Jacek books
Don't hold your breath, I purchased both the print and pdf copies of both books back in early November, and have yet to receive either. I've tried contacting the office, as well as Jacek's 2 or 3 e-mail addresses I could find at least 2-3 times every month since then. Of course, I was upset at first about not receiving what I paid for, but now I'm just worried. Hopefully, everything's okay with Jacek. -- BaEyogin On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:56 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Hello, I bought the books from http://www.devguide.net OpenBSD Command-Line Companion and Building OpenBSD Firewalls with OpenBSD 3th Ed in PDF and Printed version (since september 2009) Is there someone that will have a copy of these books in pdf format ? I received NOTHING Usually Jacek gives you the book PDF if you contact him by email after asking you a question to make sure you purchased one. Try writing to him and you will get a reply if he is not ill. --Siju
Re: Jacek books
On 2/14/2010 12:26 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Hello, I bought the books from http://www.devguide.net : OpenBSD Command-Line Companion and Building OpenBSD Firewalls with OpenBSD 3th Ed in PDF and Printed version (since september 2009) Is there someone that will have a copy of these books in pdf format ? I received NOTHING Thank you very much. I did the exact same thing, and I did receive 'snippets' of chapters in PDF format over a period of time, which I've compiled into one printed booklet, but I'd like to receive the book as a whole as was originally stated. I did use Pay Pal, so I do have a valid copy of my payment, shown below. I'm hardly sweating it though, as I've always known Jacek Artymiak to be a man of his word and an exceptional talent that I feel we're very fortunate to have as a developer. Please just give it some time. I've found it's always better to look very closely and very long before leaping to any conclusions. Regards, WED == Business Name: devGuide.net (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified) Email: sa...@devguide.net Payment Sent to: ja...@devguide.net Total Amount: -b,47.00 EUR Fee amount: b,0.00 EUR Net amount: -b,47.00 EUR (equals -$62.21 USD) Conversion from: -$62.21 USD Conversion to: b,47.00 EUR Exchange rate: 1 U.S. Dollar = 0.755505 Euros Item Amount: b,47.00 EUR Shipping: b,0.00 EUR Handling: b,0.00 EUR Quantity: 1 Item Title:OpenBSD Command-Line Companion Editions: PDF + Paper Item Number: 0008 Date: Feb 13, 2009 Time: 16:33:55 CST Status: Completed
Re: Jacek Books
Im agree with you Aaron, but i bought his books on 14 september 2009, and an other book on 14 october 2009. If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... And why sell books when nobody to occupies his website? Even if he is ill, it is not a reason (he has to stop selling ebooks) Thank's
Re: Jacek books
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Bill Dunshie wrote: On 2/14/2010 12:26 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Hello, I bought the books from http://www.devguide.net : OpenBSD Command-Line Companion and Building OpenBSD Firewalls with OpenBSD 3th Ed in PDF and Printed version (since september 2009) Is there someone that will have a copy of these books in pdf format ? I received NOTHING Thank you very much. I did the exact same thing, and I did receive 'snippets' of chapters in PDF format over a period of time, which I've compiled into one printed booklet, but I'd like to receive the book as a whole as was originally stated. I did use Pay Pal, so I do have a valid copy of my payment, shown below. I'm hardly sweating it though, as I've always known Jacek Artymiak to be a man of his word and an exceptional talent that I feel we're very fortunate to have as a developer. Please just give it some time. I've found it's always better to look very closely and very long before leaping to any conclusions. [payment info snipped] Looks like the OP has given some time already (Sep 2009). I'm not telling what other people should do, but if I had paid money for goods I haven't gotten in a reasonable time I would try to negotiate/cancel my order with the seller and if the seller is unresponsive then I'd just reclaim my money and forget about it. I don't think it's not much use asking for the goods in a mailing list of another project. -- Antti Harri
Re: Jacek Books
On 02/15/2010 01:33 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Im agree with you Aaron, but i bought his books on 14 september 2009, and an other book on 14 october 2009. If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... And why sell books when nobody to occupies his website? Even if he is ill, it is not a reason (he has to stop selling ebooks) Thank's Report him to PayPal. Depending on the terms of his copyrights, it may not be legal for someone else to send you a copy of his works. And if he is not responding to your personal emails, it is unlikely that posting on this list is going to help any further.
Re: Jacek Books
Corey wrote: And if he is not responding to your personal emails, it is unlikely that posting on this list is going to help any further. Try going through his publisher. /Lars
Re: Jacek Books
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:33:32 +0400 open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Im agree with you Aaron, but i bought his books on 14 september 2009, and an other book on 14 october 2009. If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... And why sell books when nobody to occupies his website? Even if he is ill, it is not a reason (he has to stop selling ebooks) Thank's Stop bitching and think. 1.) You do not have a name. You only have an email address. 2.) If your email address really indicates your location, then you are on a tiny island *EAST* of Madagascar in the Indian ocean. 3.) Although the island or Reunion is technically part of France, and hence technically part of the EU, most people believe GMT +0400 is outside of the EU. To put it bluntly, this is the very first time I have *EVER* seen the .re ccTLD being used. Jacek is a good guy, but considering the above, most people selling goods on the Internet would expect a scam. Your order probably got caught up by automated scam filters in the order processing system (e.g. an EU credit card being used with a seemingly non-EU shipping address). This is unfortunate, but for you, it's a fact of life. --
Re: Jacek Books
Hi, I'm not agree with you. Reunion Island is a DOM(overseas department), and we belong to European Union. We speek French, and pay in Euro. On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:03:29 -0800, J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.org wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:33:32 +0400 open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Im agree with you Aaron, but i bought his books on 14 september 2009, and an other book on 14 october 2009. If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received the books. It is a swindle ! nothing else ... And why sell books when nobody to occupies his website? Even if he is ill, it is not a reason (he has to stop selling ebooks) Thank's Stop bitching and think. 1.) You do not have a name. You only have an email address. 2.) If your email address really indicates your location, then you are on a tiny island *EAST* of Madagascar in the Indian ocean. 3.) Although the island or Reunion is technically part of France, and hence technically part of the EU, most people believe GMT +0400 is outside of the EU. To put it bluntly, this is the very first time I have *EVER* seen the .re ccTLD being used. Jacek is a good guy, but considering the above, most people selling goods on the Internet would expect a scam. Your order probably got caught up by automated scam filters in the order processing system (e.g. an EU credit card being used with a seemingly non-EU shipping address). This is unfortunate, but for you, it's a fact of life. --
Jacek books
Hello, I bought the books from http://www.devguide.net : OpenBSD Command-Line Companion and Building OpenBSD Firewalls with OpenBSD 3th Ed in PDF and Printed version (since september 2009) Is there someone that will have a copy of these books in pdf format ? I received NOTHING Thank you very much.
Re: Jacek books
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:56 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Hello, I bought the books from http://www.devguide.net : OpenBSD Command-Line Companion and Building OpenBSD Firewalls with OpenBSD 3th Ed in PDF and Printed version (since september 2009) Is there someone that will have a copy of these books in pdf format ? I received NOTHING Usually Jacek gives you the book PDF if you contact him by email after asking you a question to make sure you purchased one. Try writing to him and you will get a reply if he is not ill. --Siju
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Hi, I already sent mails (ja...@artymiak.com, sa...@devguide.net, ja...@devguide.net and others). I tried a lot of time. Nothing. It is not serious to sell books when nobody occupies the website ! I spent money in the vaccum ! I think i'm not the only one. I hope someone has a copy of these 2 books... Best regards
