On 2014-12-03 Wed 15:04 PM |, Ted Unangst wrote:
If you want strong, short passwords that look ridiculous:
dd if=/dev/random bs=1 count=9 | b64encode password
$ pkg_info apg
Information for inst:apg-2.2.3p0
Comment:
automated password generator
Description:
APG (Automated Password
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 04:21:50PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 15:37, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
Where do you store these passwords? On a napkin?
Wherever you like. A shorter password with all the o's turned into 0's
is hardly more secure.
I'd say on a napkin
On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote:
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
soonataviceenoopatecoge
gootrozapiceelytrithunula
preezypeendothanundipeesooka
That defeats the purpose of the second example in the OPs question.
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On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote:
On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote:
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
soonataviceenoopatecoge
gootrozapiceelytrithunula
preezypeendothanundipeesooka
That defeats the purpose of the second example in the OPs question.
If you want
On 12/03/2014 12:04 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote:
On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote:
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
soonataviceenoopatecoge
gootrozapiceelytrithunula
preezypeendothanundipeesooka
That defeats the purpose of the second
On December 3, 2014 9:10:42 PM CET, Jason Adams adams...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/03/2014 12:04 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote:
On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote:
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
soonataviceenoopatecoge
gootrozapiceelytrithunula
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 22:53:22 +0100
Alexander Hall wrote:
If you want strong, short passwords that look ridiculous:
dd if=/dev/random bs=1 count=9 | b64encode password
And then try to remember that mess, or type it, especially into
a smartphone. Gaak! 8-O
base64 ain't that bad,
On 12/03/14 15:04, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27, Brad Smith wrote:
On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote:
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
soonataviceenoopatecoge
gootrozapiceelytrithunula
preezypeendothanundipeesooka
That defeats the purpose of the second example in
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014, at 08:27 AM, Brad Smith wrote:
On 11/30/14 15:20, Ted Unangst wrote:
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
soonataviceenoopatecoge
gootrozapiceelytrithunula
preezypeendothanundipeesooka
That defeats the purpose of the second example in the OPs question.
I think
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On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 22:07, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better;
kMH65?3
or
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
soonataviceenoopatecoge
gootrozapiceelytrithunula
preezypeendothanundipeesooka
These stand no chance against a finnish attacker!
Miod
Where do you store these passwords? On a napkin?
Original Message
From: Ted Unangst
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:21 PM
To: Eric Furman
Cc: OpenBSD Misc
Subject: Re: OT:Password strength
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 22:07, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 15:37, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
Where do you store these passwords? On a napkin?
Wherever you like. A shorter password with all the o's turned into 0's
is hardly more secure.
way to create a
password which is ok, and easy to remember.
Original Message
From: Ted Unangst
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:21 PM
To: thornton.rich...@gmail.com
Cc: Eric Furman; OpenBSD Misc
Subject: Re: OT:Password strength
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 15:37, thornton.rich...@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014, at 05:02 PM, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
I get why network admins and CIO types live and breath security and
hardened passwords, but the average user has gone mad. I like leading
alpha characters in combination with an old phone number, with a few
non-alpha
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014, at 03:20 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 22:07, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Nick Holland wrote:
On 11/29/14 22:06, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords
On Sun, November 30, 2014 8:09 pm, Eric Furman wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Nick Holland wrote:
lots snipped
Then there is the system where it is stored. If you are working on a
stock Solaris 9 or AIX system with the default settings, only the first
eight chars are used, so the
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Miod Vallat wrote:
From: Miod Vallat m...@online.fr
To: Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com
Cc: Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net, OpenBSD Misc misc@openbsd.org
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:34:01
Subject: Re: OT:Password strength
Examples:
treetykaveprethicooputhedu
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:00 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
On Sun, November 30, 2014 8:09 pm, Eric Furman wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Nick Holland wrote:
lots snipped
Then there is the system where it is stored. If you are working on a
stock Solaris 9 or AIX
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better;
kMH65?3
or
mylittlelambjumpedovertenredbarns
The latter, I would bet.
On 11/29/2014 10:07 PM, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better;
kMH65?3
or
On 30.11.2014 04:07, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better;
kMH65?3
or
mylittlelambjumpedovertenredbarns
On 11/29/14 22:06, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better;
kMH65?3
or
mylittlelambjumpedovertenredbarns
On 30.11.2014 06:48, Nick Holland wrote:
On 11/29/14 22:06, Eric Furman wrote:
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD,
but a lot of guys here know about this stuff.
I've done some reading, but still not sure.
OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is
better;
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