Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-07-04 Thread Jan Stary
On Jul 05 03:36:30, Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >On 2012-06-27 19:25, Peter Laufenberg wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg > >>> wrote: > I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional > >> graphic > >>> designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On 2012-06-27 19:25, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg >>> wrote: I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional >> graphic >>> designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: >>> >>> that would be cool to pr

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-07-04 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On 2012-06-27 19:25, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg >> wrote: >>> I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional > graphic >> designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: >> >> that would be cool to presence a

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-07-03 Thread Lars Hansson
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Nick Holland wrote: > Other than "boring", no one has actually STATED a problem of the OpenBSD > website. That's because there is no problem with it. Sure, it doesn't look like the latest whizz-bang sites (I have nothing against such sites, btw) but neither does i

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-07-03 Thread Lars Hansson
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Eric Furman wrote: > I beg all true @misc followers > Search the archives for this shit eating moron's posts. Funny, the only ones showing up when I search for useless posts are yours. Cheers, Lars

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-06-28, Tim Howe wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:09:37 -0700 > patrick keshishian wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Tim Howe wrote: >> > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:26:52 +0200 >> > Marc Espie wrote: >> > >> >> If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. >> >

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-29 Thread frantisek holop
oi, fur-for-brains-man you said you will never see an email from me ever because i go directly to /dev/null. your mama's so fat you cannot even set up procmail. hmm, on Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 07:20:29AM -0400, Eric Furman said that > frantisek holop is a shit eating moron who should > be ignore

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed 27/06/12 08:32, "Theo de Raadt" dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > > > I'd prefer the (small) team of developers > to work on the code. > > > > > Well, that's a false dichotomy: not all OpenBSD > committers work on the > > code. A handful work pri

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-29 Thread Peter Laufenberg
what kind of shit are we talking about here? Scheisster baby eat my caviar turds or sinewy shrimp intestines you have to swallow wholesale lest being called a fag? Don't leave this up for interpretation or commentators unaware of Tourette syndrome tax deductions will /again/ quote out of contex

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-29 Thread Eric Furman
frantisek holop is a shit eating moron who should be ignored by anyone who is not a shit eating moron... FUCK YOU holop. FUCK YOU holop. Please SHUT THE FUCK UP you stupid moron, frantisek holop. I beg all true @misc followers Search the archives for this shit eating moron's posts. He is nothing bu

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-29 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 01:19:47PM +1000, Sunnz Yiu said that > On Jun 29, 2012 6:56 AM, "frantisek holop" wrote: > > > > hmm, on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 04:15:56PM -0400, Dave Anderson said that > > > For dynamic content it's even simpler -- the program producing the > > > content should also p

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Sunnz Yiu
On Jun 29, 2012 6:56 AM, "frantisek holop" wrote: > > hmm, on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 04:15:56PM -0400, Dave Anderson said that > > For dynamic content it's even simpler -- the program producing the > > content should also provide the corresponding header information. > > and it does so inside the o

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
frantisek holop writes: > > For dynamic content it's even simpler -- the program producing the > > content should also provide the corresponding header information. > > and it does so inside the of the page. > a perfectly normal and accepted practice. > btw. a content-type meta tag is _mandatory_

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 03:46:12PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > >> IIRC, Theo did the current design himself after everyone else failed to > > come up with something good. > > > > Well, Theo had some rather fun constraints, like making a web site that > > works > > with antiquated brow

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Other than "boring", no one has actually STATED a problem of the OpenBSD > website. It's not PINK enough. I want PINK everywhere. PINK PINK PINK. PINK text on a PINK background. Oh and BROWN. BROWN BROWN BROWN. Thinking about it, PINK text on a PINK background won't work will it. Grey, grey

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 04:15:56PM -0400, Dave Anderson said that > >because AddDefaultCharset is a braindead concept. > > No, just one that needs to be applied only when appropriate. The truly > braindead idea is that of partially parsing a file in order to find out > what charset you shoul

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Andres Perera
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Dave Anderson wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, frantisek holop wrote: > >>hmm, on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 09:47:00AM -0400, Dave Anderson said that >>> Using META is _ugly_, especially for specifying a charset (since the >>> page will be read up through the META element

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:53:04AM -0700, Tim Howe wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:26:52 +0200 > Marc Espie wrote: > > > If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. > > > > It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for > > all ports. > > > > Curr

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Dave Anderson
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, frantisek holop wrote: >hmm, on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 09:47:00AM -0400, Dave Anderson said that >> Using META is _ugly_, especially for specifying a charset (since the >> page will be read up through the META element using the charset >> specified in the real header or assumed

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Tim Howe
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:09:37 -0700 patrick keshishian wrote: > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Tim Howe wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:26:52 +0200 > > Marc Espie wrote: > > > >> If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. > >> > >> It does extract information from the

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread patrick keshishian
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Tim Howe wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:26:52 +0200 > Marc Espie wrote: > >> If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. >> >> It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for >> all ports. >> >> Currently, it's a st

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Tim Howe
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:26:52 +0200 Marc Espie wrote: > If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. > > It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for > all ports. > > Currently, it's a static port. It could very well be a dynamic application. > >

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. > >It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for >all ports. > >Currently, it's a static port. It could very well be a dynamic application. > >You can experiment with css, you can experiment with nginx. >

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 09:47:00AM -0400, Dave Anderson said that > Using META is _ugly_, especially for specifying a charset (since the > page will be read up through the META element using the charset > specified in the real header or assumed by the browser -- and that > charset could be inc

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Ted Unangst
All the stuff under papers comes from wherever. It's not really part of the website proper. Consolidating all that content into a consistent style, any style, would be great. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:00, Andres Perera wrote: > imo the issue has more to do with one page using a completely > dif

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Andres Perera
imo the issue has more to do with one page using a completely different scheme than all the others. that happens when you copy-paste massive tags at the beginning of every doc instead of using your preferred flavor of "#include". you could of course go another route and try to justify it by saying

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Dave Anderson
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Stuart Henderson wrote: >On 2012-06-28, ropers wrote: >> On 28 June 2012 01:17, Andres Perera wrote: A http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan11-mandoc-openbsd.html >>> >>> >>> that page is encoded iso 8859-1, doesn't state so anywhere, breaks >>> with browsers configured

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:31, Marc Espie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 03:46:12PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: >> IIRC, Theo did the current design himself after everyone else failed to > come up with something good. > > Well, Theo had some rather fun constraints, like making a web site that

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-06-28, ropers wrote: > On 28 June 2012 01:17, Andres Perera wrote: >>>  http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan11-mandoc-openbsd.html >> >> >> that page is encoded iso 8859-1, doesn't state so anywhere, breaks >> with browsers configured to default to utf8 in the absence of encoding >> quali

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 02:55:53AM -0700, Timmy L Steve wrote: > On 06/28/2012 01:26 AM, Marc Espie wrote: > >If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. > > > >It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for > >all ports. > > > >Currently, it's a stat

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Timmy L Steve
On 06/28/2012 01:26 AM, Marc Espie wrote: If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for all ports. Currently, it's a static port. It could very well be a dynamic application. You can experiment with cs

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Bret Lambert
Talk ajax to me, baby. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Marc Espie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 03:46:12PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: >> IIRC, Theo did the current design himself after everyone else failed to come >> up with something good. > > Well, Theo had some rather fun constraints,

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 03:46:12PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > IIRC, Theo did the current design himself after everyone else failed to come > up with something good. Well, Theo had some rather fun constraints, like making a web site that works with antiquated browsers, like "no css". If tha

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-28 Thread Marc Espie
If you guys are serious about anything, go look at ports-readmes. It does extract information from the ports tree, and creates readmes for all ports. Currently, it's a static port. It could very well be a dynamic application. You can experiment with css, you can experiment with nginx. Preferabl

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Perera
that patch is not a solution a good solution is use m4 or another macro language (maybe cpp since apparently line-based macro languages are liked by mandoc freaks) to add an "include" to all pages in the www/* repository also, a commit hook that ensures that newly added or modified pages meet a s

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread ropers
On 28 June 2012 01:17, Andres Perera wrote: >>  http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan11-mandoc-openbsd.html > > > that page is encoded iso 8859-1, doesn't state so anywhere, breaks > with browsers configured to default to utf8 in the absence of encoding > qualifiers $ telnet www.openbsd.org 80 Try

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread cody chandler
On Jun 27, 2012 8:41 PM, "Andres Perera" wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Andres Perera wrote: > > ... > >> that page is encoded iso 8859-1, doesn't state so anywhere, breaks > >> with browsers configured to default to utf8 i

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Kristaps Dzonsons
On 27/06/2012 22:53, Matthew Dempsky wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: Here's something I think would be a *major* improvement. Fix magicpoint to export slides in a format better than jpg. Or extend mandoc to support Comic Sans so it can be used for presentation slid

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Peter Laufenberg [open...@laufenberg.ch] wrote: >> >> I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional graphic >> designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: >> >> www.flexstudio.ch >> >> Richard is a very good friend but still your typical starving

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Andres Perera wrote: > ... >> that page is encoded iso 8859-1, doesn't state so anywhere, breaks >> with browsers configured to default to utf8 in the absence of encoding >> qualifiers > > Those browsers ar

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Philip Guenther
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Andres Perera wrote: ... > that page is encoded iso 8859-1, doesn't state so anywhere, breaks > with browsers configured to default to utf8 in the absence of encoding > qualifiers Those browsers are violating the HTTP/1.1 standard. RFC 2616, section 3.7.1, paragr

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi, > > Matthew Dempsky wrote on Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 01:53:09PM -0700: >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: > >>> Here's something I think would be a *major* improvement. >>> Fix magicpoint to export slides in a format bet

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
I agree 100%; the 1st question an artist would ask is "what are you trying to accomplish?" If you don't want more OpenBSD users/contributors and really the message is "piss off, nothing to see here, we're fine as is, leave us alone", then the current web site as well as references to floppies a

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Nick Holland wrote: > > Other than "boring", no one has actually STATED a problem of the OpenBSD > website.  What message are we not getting across?  If there is a PROBLEM > you see that makes getting its information to you difficult, please > state it and indicate

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Matthew Dempsky wrote on Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 01:53:09PM -0700: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: >> Here's something I think would be a *major* improvement. >> Fix magicpoint to export slides in a format better than jpg. That's not the only thing that could be fixed abo

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM, john slee wrote: > Do you think that if the reader finds reading to be optimal at a > particular column width, that said reader may well adjust their > browser window to suit? sorry but that's complete bs. you are essentially expecting users to re-size the window

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>TLDR: It's not your place to tell others what they like. Am I? It's not about one individual likes, it's about whether your messages reaches a majority of your audience. Most of the filtering is subconscious and immune to fashion btw. >On 28 June 2012 07:59, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >> It too

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Peter Laufenberg [open...@laufenberg.ch] wrote: > > I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional graphic > designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: > > www.flexstudio.ch > > Richard is a very good friend but still your typical starving artist w

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Nick Holland
On 06/27/12 17:58, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>> Speaking personally, I wouldn't mind if OpenBSD's website were >>> updated. Just no one has volunteered yet to do the dirty work of >>> actually coming up with a functional design and then updating the >>> HTML. >>> >>> Talk is cheap. > > I'm willi

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg >>wrote: >>> I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional > graphic >>designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: >> >>that would be cool to p

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread john slee
TLDR: It's not your place to tell others what they like. On 28 June 2012 07:59, Peter Laufenberg wrote: > It took me _years_ to understand and respect that graphic design > isn't all that subjective, that it's a craft, with harmonic rules similar > to music Maybe it does, but your comment sounds

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg >wrote: >> I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a professional graphic >designer to redo parts of OpenBSD's visual design. His portfolio: > >that would be cool to presence as a bystander No te entiendo tío! >pay the dude regardl

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Peter Laufenberg wrote: >>> Speaking personally, I wouldn't mind if OpenBSD's website were >>> updated.  Just no one has volunteered yet to do the dirty work of >>> actually coming up with a functional design and then updating the >>> HTML. >>> >>> Talk is cheap. >

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> Speaking personally, I wouldn't mind if OpenBSD's website were >> updated. Just no one has volunteered yet to do the dirty work of >> actually coming up with a functional design and then updating the >> HTML. >> >> Talk is cheap. I'm willing to indirectly donate to OpenBSD by paying a profess

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 13:53, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: >> Here's something I think would be a *major* improvement. Fix >> magicpoint to export slides in a format better than jpg. > > Or extend mandoc to support Comic Sans so it can be used for

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: > Here's something I think would be a *major* improvement.  Fix > magicpoint to export slides in a format better than jpg. Or extend mandoc to support Comic Sans so it can be used for presentation slide decks!

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:11, Nick Holland wrote: > Others in this thread have described what would need to be maintained in > any "improvement". Let me add (as I don't think it was mentioned), > static pages, managed by CVS, able to be mirrored by anyone, publicly or > privately. Multiple rend

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:19, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > > Really? Can we do that? Seems, by this thread and previous about this > > subject, > > that nobody is waiting for any diffs regarding this > > There's so much low hanging fruit that could be improved before > somebody starts d

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 07:48:46PM +0200, Bret Lambert wrote: > > PHP is like s early 2000s. ?When's Python gonna go into base? > > You're behind the times; python's been replaced by ruby running on top > of mongodb I see each day more developers migrating their personal websites from php/pyt

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:19, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > Really? Can we do that? Seems, by this thread and previous about this > subject, > that nobody is waiting for any diffs regarding this There's so much low hanging fruit that could be improved before somebody starts dicking about w

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Nick Holland
On 06/27/2012 10:19 AM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Really? Can we do that? Seems, by this thread and previous about this subject, that nobody is waiting for any diffs regarding this - Alvaro Of course, you can do anything you wish. No one is EXPECTING quality diffs, for our definitio

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread goodb0fh
No hadoop and shards? Blasphemy! Sent from my iPhone 7 beta On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > That is a joke...right? Nothing is better than Django > > El 27/06/2012, a las 11:48, Bret Lambert escribi¨®: > >>> PHP is like s early 2000s. When's Python gonna

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Speaking personally, I wouldn't mind if OpenBSD's website were > updated. Just no one has volunteered yet to do the dirty work of > actually coming up with a functional design and then updating the > HTML. > > Talk is cheap. Yes, talk is unbelievably cheap. On the other hand, if whatever anyo

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > Really? Can we do that? Yes. There's no filters in place on the mailing list to prevent people from submitting diffs, but there's also no guarantee that just because you send in a diff that it'll be committed either. If someone's

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
That is a joke...right? Nothing is better than Django El 27/06/2012, a las 11:48, Bret Lambert escribió: >> PHP is like s early 2000s. When's Python gonna go into base? > > You're behind the times; python's been replaced by ruby running on top > of mongodb [demime 1.01d removed an attac

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Bret Lambert wrote: >> PHP is like s early 2000s.  When's Python gonna go into base? > > You're behind the times; python's been replaced by ruby running on top > of mongodb ah crap! Off to buy a bunch of O'Reilly books about that. I guess that means migratin

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Bret Lambert
> PHP is like s early 2000s.  When's Python gonna go into base? You're behind the times; python's been replaced by ruby running on top of mongodb

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:24 PM, wrote: >> > > I'd prefer the (small) team of developers to work on the code. >> > >> > Well, that's a false dichotomy: not all OpenBSD committers work on the >> > code. A handful work primarily on maintain

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Really? Can we do that? Seems, by this thread and previous about this subject, that nobody is waiting for any diffs regarding this - Alvaro El 27/06/2012, a las 02:12, Eric Furman escribió: > We are all anxiously awaiting your diffs... > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 07:52 PM, Alvaro Mantilla

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 05:30:18PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote: > > banner `wget http://www.openbsd.org/ -O -` > That's nice, but it would be nice if someone could take some responsibility and make banner css-aware. Imagine being able to specify a cool font face with anti-aliased edges and true tr

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Manuel Giraud
Chris Cappuccio writes: > Duh, this is OpenBSD. We use > > banner `ftp -o - http://www.openbsd.org/` You mean: banner `lynx -dump http://www.openbsd.org/` -- Manuel Giraud

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Boudewijn Dijkstra
Op Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:54:11 +0200 schreef Hugo Osvaldo Barrera : On 2012-06-26 18:46, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web page. ( Its only my opinion ) Wh

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On 2012-06-26 18:46, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? > The FreeBSD website seems optimized for re

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread André
ohh, just had a sleep and missed great propagated, essential improvements. No one cares 'bout design. No one wants to sell something with eyecandy. No one wants to do the work For what? Worldpeace? Annoying, bored L1nux users with limited reading & selfreflection capabilities? In fact of telling

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-27 Thread Eric Furman
We are all anxiously awaiting your diffs... On Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 07:52 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: > Why is not possible to apply a new css style to the current site? That > has > nothing to do with joomla (and similar) and would keep the site fast and > compatible with, let's sayly

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Pablo Velasco Fernández
Ok. I understand. I forgot that the webpage desing allows you to use a lightweight browsers. Thanks :) El 27/06/2012 06:17, "Tomas Bodzar" escribió: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández > wrote: > > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool >

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? > Hate overusing of word 'cool'

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread STeve Andre'
If the site is OK as it is, why add more fluff? Style sheets certainly aren't blotund like Jooma is, but why go there for the site? Guess I'm a minimalist. --STeve Andre' On 06/26/12 21:52, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Why is not possible to apply a new css style to the current site? That

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > > > I'd prefer the (small) team of developers to work on the code. > > > > Well, that's a false dichotomy: not all OpenBSD committers work on the > > code. A handful work primarily on maintaining the website and/or > > documentation, because that's an

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Why is not possible to apply a new css style to the current site? That has nothing to do with joomla (and similar) and would keep the site fast and compatible with, let's saylynx or whatever browser do you want to try with the site. I mean, for me the site is ok but a new css style could be a

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Alexander Hall
Chris Bennett wrote: >On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 06:59:28PM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert >wrote: >> If you really wanna improve that, I'd suggest reworking the same >> webpage, but making it possible for people with vision impairment to >> use it more effectively, I've been told that there are a s

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Duh, this is OpenBSD. We use banner `ftp -o - http://www.openbsd.org/` Chris Bennett [ch...@bennettconstruction.us] wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 06:59:28PM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: > > If you really wanna improve that, I'd suggest reworking the same > > webpage, but making it pos

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread STeve Andre'
On 06/26/12 17:57, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: I mean.. A modern style. El 26/06/2012 23:55, "Miod Vallat" escribió: Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web page. ( Its only my opinion

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread richardtoohey
Quoting Matthew Dempsky : > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > > I'd prefer the (small) team of developers to work on the code. > > Well, that's a false dichotomy: not all OpenBSD committers work on the > code. A handful work primarily on maintaining the website and/or > documentation, be

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > I'd prefer the (small) team of developers to work on the code. Well, that's a false dichotomy: not all OpenBSD committers work on the code. A handful work primarily on maintaining the website and/or documentation, because that's an important job too.

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Luis Coronado
We could add a few facebook 'i like' buttons here and there and have a m.openbsd.org for iphones and androis (no openbsd smartphone yet). After that we could kill lynx from the tree because it will be useless. -luis On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Chris Bennett
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 06:59:28PM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: > If you really wanna improve that, I'd suggest reworking the same > webpage, but making it possible for people with vision impairment to > use it more effectively, I've been told that there are a some ways to > improve it. >

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: > I mean.. A modern style. Honestly, because it's just not a high priority. The OpenBSD website is very information dense and its maintained by people who care a lot about the information being accurate and useful and not as much ab

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Francois Pussault
> > From: Pablo Velasco Fernández > Sent: Tue Jun 26 23:46:36 CEST 2012 > To: > Subject: OpenBSD's webpage desing > > > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread richardtoohey
Quoting Pablo Velasco Fernández : > I mean.. A modern style. > El 26/06/2012 23:55, "Miod Vallat" escribió: > > > > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a > cool > > > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most > "visual" web > > > page. ( Its only m

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? > I'm on freebsd page with lynx

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread David Romano
Miod Vallat wrote on Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 02:55:41PM MST: > Last time I checked, you could use eyes to browse the OpenBSD website. > Why do you consider it non-visual? It's non-visual because you can easily parse its HTML, without the cumbersome use of eyes. The best option, of course, it to infuse

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? The FAQ could definitely use som

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Pablo Velasco Fernández
I mean.. A modern style. El 26/06/2012 23:55, "Miod Vallat" escribió: > > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? > > Last time I chec

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Chris Bennett
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:46:36PM +0200, Pablo Velasco Fern?ndez wrote: > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? > >From FAQ: 8.23 - W

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 26 June 2012 18:46, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? > Yeah, FreeBSD webpage is cool, until you

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread patrick keshishian
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote: > Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? I like coconut flavored ice-crea

Re: OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Miod Vallat
> Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool > desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web > page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think? Last time I checked, you could use eyes to browse the OpenBSD website. Why do you consider it non

OpenBSD's webpage desing

2012-06-26 Thread Pablo Velasco Fernández
Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a cool desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual" web page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think?