Hello OpenBSD friends,
Just to clarify this post, I would like to say that I have run
gnumeric under gdb as I was told. It seems that the crash problem is a
libgnomecanvas bug that is solved in the newer versions, so it is a
GNOME bug, not OpenBSD packaging problem.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 12:10:53AM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
Why do you insult to the GNU people? aren't you using their compiler?.
I do not understand why you say such things.
Peace, please.
*I* can insult the GNU people. I've spent enough time working around
their over-engineered code
Hi
I have better luck using pkgsrc (www.pkgsrc.org) than OpenBSD ports.
There are more easy to upgrade.
roberto
2006/3/12, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello dear OpenBSD fans.
After playing during some time with OpenBSD 3.8 and understanding
how it works, I wanted to give it a more
On Sunday 12 March 2006 18:11, Wijnand Wiersma wrote:
I have a problem with gnome and the gnome guys should just fix it.
Switching is NOT the solution.
Neither the openbsd developers, nor the gnome ones are your subordinates:
you're not paying for their time and skills!
So just shut up, go
Roberto Pereyra wrote:
I have better luck using pkgsrc (www.pkgsrc.org) than OpenBSD ports.
There are more easy to upgrade.
As someone once said
USER:
Your software does not suit my needs, I am going elsewhere.
DEVELOPER:
Promise?
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On 13/03/06, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do you say that? Gnumeric works nicely under Linux. No problem at all.
If something is broken, it is broken. Period. Just because it seems to
work on Linux every time you try it, doesn't mean that they have no
programming mistakes in the
On 14/03/06, Constantine A. Murenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13/03/06, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do you say that? Gnumeric works nicely under Linux. No problem at all.
If something is broken, it is broken. Period. Just because it seems to
work on Linux every time you try
On 3/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GNUMERIC. The application crashes after introducing a number on a
cell- right click-format cells
Clearly something rather fundamental is broken. It is very likely an
issue
relating to the port.
We have no reports of such a thing
Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if
you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to
help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols
first, as someone stated before. And run gdb or ddd.
Hi,
There is no howto, but I
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:34:08PM +, Edd Barrett wrote:
Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if
you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to
help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols
first, as someone
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if
you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to
help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols
first, as someone stated before. And run gdb or
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:34:08PM +, Edd Barrett wrote:
cd /usr/ports/math/gnumeric
make configure
cd w-gnumeric-x.x.x/gnumeric-x.x.x
vi Makefile
Ouch.
make DEBUG=-g install should do the job.
--
It's a Barrier Of Entry issue: if you can't figure out which floppy
to boot from, go run
Matthias Kilian wrote:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:34:08PM +, Edd Barrett wrote:
cd /usr/ports/math/gnumeric
make configure
cd w-gnumeric-x.x.x/gnumeric-x.x.x
vi Makefile
Ouch.
make DEBUG=-g install should do the job.
Thank you very much!
Ramiro.
Kurt B. Kaiser wrote:
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if
you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to
help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols
first, as someone stated
Most ports support setting CFLAGS.
cd /usr/ports/foo/bar
env 'CFLAGS=-g -O0' make install
Don't be surprised if '-O0' makes the bug dissappear.
Hello Andrew,
Many thanks for the valuable information. I will start doing the
debugging this week end.
We are in this world to learn things,
Hello, this is what I found about the gnome-panel issue on the bugs page:
Number: 4473
Category: ports
Synopsis: gnome-panel freeze and quits on OpenBSD 3.8 current i386
Confidential: yes
Severity: serious
Priority: medium
Responsible:bugs
State:
Ramiro Aceves wrote:
...
Yes, WM also works fine here. But again, it is not a solution. GNOME
should not be released in such buggy state.
I don't follow your logic here.
Ok, let's say GNOME was removed from ports by your suggestion.
In that case, you WOULD need to find another solution.
In
I differ a bit. If the port were removed, there'd be even less incentive
to work to fix it in future. But, if testing shows it doesn't work, it
should be marked as BROKEN for releases, yes. Now, wrt testing, it
applies what others said: Everyone is asked to contribute, even if the
Hello
Helping is done with cash donations and diffs. Being an buttplug is not.
I do not have enough money to make donations, I have contributed
buying a CD set. I think it is insignificant and not too much but it
is the only thing I can afford. I am not capable of sending any diffs.
Not
I have tested it in two very different machines and It fails as soon
as you format a cell.
no, my laptop runs -current.
Oh great, it means that they have fixed it!
It is not every possible combination of program and input, it is a
failure that appears as soon as you format a cell.
On 2006/03/14 00:01, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
When I first discover OpenBSD after some years using Linux, I got in
love with it, I liked its philosophy very much, its correctness, its
documentation, the way the kernel boots, Everything is where you spect
it to be.
Follow the cvs-changes and
Hello dear OpenBSD fans.
After playing during some time with OpenBSD 3.8 and understanding
how it works, I wanted to give it a more serious try on my laptop. I
know OpenBSD is not intended for desktop use, but anyway, I wanted to
use some applications. The results have been very disapointing.
On Sunday 12 March 2006 20:36, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
GNOME-PANEL. It crashes very often, so GNOME is not usable.
GNOME is currently pretty much unusable on OpenBSD.
If you want a full-featured desktop on OpenBSD KDE is currently the way to go.
XFCE. Sometimes the panel suddenly disapears.
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:36:04PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
Hello dear OpenBSD fans.
After playing during some time with OpenBSD 3.8 and understanding
how it works, I wanted to give it a more serious try on my laptop. I
know OpenBSD is not intended for desktop use, but anyway, I wanted
Hello!
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:36:04PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
GNOME-PANEL. It crashes very often, so GNOME is not usable.
XFCE. Sometimes the panel suddenly disapears.
VLC. When I try to open a file FILE- OPENFILE-BROWSE. I am not able
to see the directory and file listing properly. I
On 3/12/06, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GNOME-PANEL. It crashes very often, so GNOME is not usable.
I had the same problem on 3.8 too, I was hoping this was fixed in 3.9.
I am sure it is not a hardware error, maybe the malloc changes have
something to do with it?
Wijnand
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
-ME
On 3/12/06, Wijnand Wiersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GNOME-PANEL. It crashes very often, so GNOME is not usable.
I had the same problem on 3.8 too, I was hoping this was fixed
On 3/12/06, Wijnand Wiersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
I don't care what you think. You almost sound like some linux kiddo:
hey, don't use windows, linux is teh best.
Fuck off, I
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:36:04 +0100 Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello dear OpenBSD fans.
After playing during some time with OpenBSD 3.8 and understanding
how it works, I wanted to give it a more serious try on my laptop. I
know OpenBSD is not intended for desktop use, but
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Wijnand Wiersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
I don't care what you think. You almost sound like some linux kiddo:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
If we're getting into religious wars here WindowMaker works great for me.
Greg
On 3/12/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
If we're getting into religious wars here WindowMaker works great for me.
Greg
Wow! I'm not trying to start a religious war. Who
On 3/12/06, Wijnand Wiersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, you were advocating something else I don't want to use.
But ok, I should have been friendlier, I apologize.
I just hate that kinda behaviour.
So, you know everything? You've tried everything? What if you were
actually open to learning
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
If we're getting into religious wars here WindowMaker works great for me.
On Sunday, March 12, Wijnand Wiersma wrote:
I have a problem with gnome and the gnome guys should just fix it.
So, go bug the gnome guys.
Switching is NOT the solution.
I use crappy software, it crashes, I like the pain, I will
not switch, please help. I have a LART here somewhere...
On 3/12/06, Tobias Weingartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday, March 12, Wijnand Wiersma wrote:
I have a problem with gnome and the gnome guys should just fix it.
So, go bug the gnome guys.
Yes, I know.
I didn't bug the OpenBSD guys about this, it is gnome's fault.
Wijnand
--
Michael Erdely wrote:
On 3/12/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
If we're getting into religious wars here WindowMaker works great for me.
Greg
Wow! I'm not trying to
Wijnand Wiersma wrote:
On 3/12/06, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GNOME-PANEL. It crashes very often, so GNOME is not usable.
I had the same problem on 3.8 too, I was hoping this was fixed in 3.9.
I am sure it is not a hardware error, maybe the malloc changes have
something to do
Hello Joachim and others,
Joachim Schipper wrote:
Ports should work, actually, and OpenBSD should be suitable for desktop
use. The flip side of the coin is that fancy GUIs are not too well loved
amongst the developers, so support is typically less good than would be
the case for, say, Fedora
Greg Thomas wrote:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
If we're getting into religious wars here WindowMaker works great for me.
Greg
Yes, WM also works fine here. But again, it is not a solution. GNOME
Michael Erdely wrote:
On 3/12/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/12/06, Michael Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gnome is too bloated anyway... try out icewm. Much better.
If we're getting into religious wars here WindowMaker works great for me.
Greg
Wow! I'm not trying to
Ramiro,
Do you really think you're improving the situation by mourning in our
mailing lists? Have you tried debugging the problems you mention? Have
you tried contacting the respective ports maintainers to work out those
issues with them? Did you bother to report at all?
Just pointing at people
Hello,
Yes, WM also works fine here. But again, it is not a solution. GNOME
should not be released in such buggy state.
Please respect the amount of effort it takes our developers to port huge
applications like GNOME. Such applications must be debugged and patched to
even run, let alone in
On Sunday 12 March 2006 23:24, Wijnand Wiersma wrote:
On 3/12/06, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GNOME-PANEL. It crashes very often, so GNOME is not usable.
I had the same problem on 3.8 too, I was hoping this was fixed in 3.9.
It's not. Perhaps, if anyone who wants it makes an
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, WM also works fine here. But again, it is not a solution. GNOME
should not be released in such buggy state.
OK, then just pretend it wasn't.
Debian has like 25 packagers working on Gnome. It's not the focus of
OpenBSD.
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