Re: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:32:49PM -0500, Emilio Perea wrote:
> I've run OpenBSD on a Dimension 2400 for a short time without problems.
>
> Will send you a dmesg if I find one available in the morning.
Unfortunately, I was not able to find an unused one to install OpenBSD
on, but this is the dmesg from the 3.7 boot CD:
OpenBSD 3.7 (RAMDISK_CD) #573: Sun Mar 20 00:27:05 MST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD
cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.40 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID
real mem = 266399744 (260156K)
avail mem = 237285376 (231724K)
using 3277 buffers containing 13422592 bytes (13108K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 12/02/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfeae0/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 ("Intel 82801DB LPC" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb800 0xcb800/0x1800! 0xcd000/0x3000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82845G/GL" rev 0x01
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82845G/GL Video" rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 10
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 9
usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 5
ehci0: EHCI version 1.0
ehci0: companion controllers, 2 ports each: uhci0 uhci1 uhci2
usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: single transaction translator
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA AGP" rev 0x81
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
bce0 at pci1 dev 9 function 0 "Broadcom BCM4401" rev 0x01: irq 3, address
00:0d:56:62:3b:67
bmtphy0 at bce0 phy 1: BCM4401 10/100baseTX PHY, rev. 0
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801DB LPC" rev 0x01
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801DB IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 15625 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI0 5/cdrom
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
"Intel 82801DB SMBus" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured
"Intel 82801DB AC97" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 not configured
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
biomask ffe5 netmask ffed ttymask ffef
rd0: fixed, 3800 blocks
wd0: no disk label
root on rd0a
rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02
Re: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
Hi.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:59 PM
> To: OpenBSD Misc
> Subject: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
>
> A friend needs to order a basic computer with a good warranty,
> to run as a very basic OpenBSD 3.7 firewall for a cablemodem.
> I'd put one together from parts, but I don't relish doing "won't
> boot"
> hardware support from 1600 miles away.
>
> Looking at the Dell Dimension line (probably the 2400 or 3000)
> one concern is that I don't see *any* reports, success or failure,
> running OpenBSD on this particular product?
>
> One reason to choose the Dell (with a CPU that is way overkill) is
> that the box may be eventually repurposed as an XP desktop...
>
>
> Alternately, any other suggestions for a US mail order PC
> vendor with fair prices, quick turnaround, a hardware warranty
> and a pre-built small tower which will reliably run OpenBSD?
>
> This is just going to get shoved under a desk, so rackmount
> is not a consideration, and it doesn't need to be perfectly quiet.
>
Here is a dmesg from an Dimension 3000. Snapshot was from today taken
off of rt.fm.
OpenBSD 3.8-beta (GENERIC) #95: Tue Aug 16 18:44:40 MDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.80
GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,
CF
LUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,PNI,MWAIT,CNXT-ID
real mem = 534818816 (522284K)
avail mem = 481087488 (469812K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26845184 bytes (26216K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 11/08/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xffe90
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfeae0/160 (8 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 ("Intel 82801EB/ER LPC" rev
0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xa800 0xca800/0x1800!
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82865G/PE/P CPU-I/0-1" rev 0x02
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82865G Video" rev 0x02: aperture at
0xe8000
000, size 0x800
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: irq 10
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: irq 11
usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: irq 9
usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA AGP" rev 0xc2
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 "Intel PRO/100 VE" rev 0x02: irq 10,
address 00:13
:20:53:4e:bd
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801EB/ER LPC" rev 0x02
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801EB/ER IDE" rev 0x02: DMA,
channel
0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38146MB, 78125000 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI0
5/cdrom r
emovable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
"Intel 82801EB/ER SMBus" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not
configured
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 "Intel 82801EB/ER AC97" rev 0x02: irq
3, ICH5 A
C97
ac97: codec id 0x41445370 (Analog Devices AD1980)
ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo
audio0 at auich0
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0:
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0
Re: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
On 8/17/05, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin wrote: > > >A friend needs to order a basic computer with a good warranty, > >to run as a very basic OpenBSD 3.7 firewall for a cablemodem. > >I'd put one together from parts, but I don't relish doing "won't boot" > >hardware support from 1600 miles away. > > > >Looking at the Dell Dimension line (probably the 2400 or 3000) > >one concern is that I don't see *any* reports, success or failure, > >running OpenBSD on this particular product? > > > >One reason to choose the Dell (with a CPU that is way overkill) is > >that the box may be eventually repurposed as an XP desktop... > > > > > >Alternately, any other suggestions for a US mail order PC > >vendor with fair prices, quick turnaround, a hardware warranty > >and a pre-built small tower which will reliably run OpenBSD? > > > >This is just going to get shoved under a desk, so rackmount > >is not a consideration, and it doesn't need to be perfectly quiet. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Kevin > > > I used one of the Dell Optiplex line about 2 years ago to build a > firewall at a chemical plant. I specifically asked my boss to get me > the bloody cheapest thing he could that had a PCI slot, and that's what > I ended up with. As long as you stick to the hardware compatibility > list, you shouldn't have any trouble. I will note that when I built > that firewall, the embedded NIC was an xl, which of course threw out all > sorts of "Command not completed" errors. Whether or not that is still a > problem on current kernels (this was built in the 3.3 days), I couldn't > tell you, as my current home firewall has an rl and an fxp in it. > > I still use (in 3.7-release) several 3Com 3C905B-TX fast etherlink PCI boards and I don't see any errs as far as I can tell.
Re: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
I have had good success with the Asus barebones VIA C3 just needed to add a hard disk drive and ram. Runs quiet and uses only 25 watts of power for cpu. Runs XP Pro without any problems with 512MB Ram, not a speed demon but works good for basic internet and office use. I haven't tried it with OpenBSD but I see that it is supported. The Esther VIA C7 is just around the corner. Best regards, rogern From: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: OpenBSD Misc Subject: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:59:24 -0500 A friend needs to order a basic computer with a good warranty, to run as a very basic OpenBSD 3.7 firewall for a cablemodem. I'd put one together from parts, but I don't relish doing "won't boot" hardware support from 1600 miles away. Looking at the Dell Dimension line (probably the 2400 or 3000) one concern is that I don't see *any* reports, success or failure, running OpenBSD on this particular product? One reason to choose the Dell (with a CPU that is way overkill) is that the box may be eventually repurposed as an XP desktop... Alternately, any other suggestions for a US mail order PC vendor with fair prices, quick turnaround, a hardware warranty and a pre-built small tower which will reliably run OpenBSD? This is just going to get shoved under a desk, so rackmount is not a consideration, and it doesn't need to be perfectly quiet. Thanks, Kevin http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
On 8/16/05, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin wrote: > >A friend needs to order a basic computer with a good warranty, > >to run as a very basic OpenBSD 3.7 firewall for a cablemodem. > >I'd put one together from parts, but I don't relish doing "won't boot" > >hardware support from 1600 miles away. . . . > I used one of the Dell Optiplex line about 2 years ago to build a > firewall at a chemical plant. I specifically asked my boss to get me > the bloody cheapest thing he could that had a PCI slot, and that's what > I ended up with. I've had good luck redeploying Optiplex desktops with OpenBSD, and buying new PowerEdge machines; but I'm new to the Dimension "consumer" desktop product line. > As long as you stick to the hardware compatibility > list, you shouldn't have any trouble. Aye, there's the rub. Dell doesn't make it obvious what chipsets are actually in the machine, and I've personally encountered more than one incident where two machines ordered six months apart identical SKUs came with vastly different embedded controllers. > I will note that when I built that firewall, the embedded NIC was an xl, > which of course threw out all sorts of "Command not completed" errors. > Whether or not that is still a problem on current kernels (this was built > in the 3.3 days), I couldn't tell you, as my current home firewall has an rl > and an fxp in it. For low-throughput firewalls, I've been using scavenged dual port "Compaq DP Netelligent 10/100 TX" NICs. Since Matthew Bettinger confirms that the Dimension 3000 has an embedded 'bge', I'll just need to add an old 10baseT card for the cablemodem link. The next tricky bit will be making the firewall act as a secure wireless access point. I'm thinking USB, but I'll save those questions for later. Kevin Kadow
Re: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 09:59:24PM -0500, Kevin wrote: > Looking at the Dell Dimension line (probably the 2400 or 3000) > one concern is that I don't see *any* reports, success or failure, > running OpenBSD on this particular product? I've run OpenBSD on a Dimension 2400 for a short time without problems. Will send you a dmesg if I find one available in the morning.
Re: OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
Kevin wrote: A friend needs to order a basic computer with a good warranty, to run as a very basic OpenBSD 3.7 firewall for a cablemodem. I'd put one together from parts, but I don't relish doing "won't boot" hardware support from 1600 miles away. Looking at the Dell Dimension line (probably the 2400 or 3000) one concern is that I don't see *any* reports, success or failure, running OpenBSD on this particular product? One reason to choose the Dell (with a CPU that is way overkill) is that the box may be eventually repurposed as an XP desktop... Alternately, any other suggestions for a US mail order PC vendor with fair prices, quick turnaround, a hardware warranty and a pre-built small tower which will reliably run OpenBSD? This is just going to get shoved under a desk, so rackmount is not a consideration, and it doesn't need to be perfectly quiet. Thanks, Kevin I used one of the Dell Optiplex line about 2 years ago to build a firewall at a chemical plant. I specifically asked my boss to get me the bloody cheapest thing he could that had a PCI slot, and that's what I ended up with. As long as you stick to the hardware compatibility list, you shouldn't have any trouble. I will note that when I built that firewall, the embedded NIC was an xl, which of course threw out all sorts of "Command not completed" errors. Whether or not that is still a problem on current kernels (this was built in the 3.3 days), I couldn't tell you, as my current home firewall has an rl and an fxp in it.
OpenBSD on Dell Dimension 2400 or 3000?
A friend needs to order a basic computer with a good warranty, to run as a very basic OpenBSD 3.7 firewall for a cablemodem. I'd put one together from parts, but I don't relish doing "won't boot" hardware support from 1600 miles away. Looking at the Dell Dimension line (probably the 2400 or 3000) one concern is that I don't see *any* reports, success or failure, running OpenBSD on this particular product? One reason to choose the Dell (with a CPU that is way overkill) is that the box may be eventually repurposed as an XP desktop... Alternately, any other suggestions for a US mail order PC vendor with fair prices, quick turnaround, a hardware warranty and a pre-built small tower which will reliably run OpenBSD? This is just going to get shoved under a desk, so rackmount is not a consideration, and it doesn't need to be perfectly quiet. Thanks, Kevin
