Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On 12/20/07, Selva Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Raimo, Here is the brief about the proposed setup. This would be a test bed for Information Assurance business. To summarise the lab will have Firewalls /OpenBSD 4.2 / PF VPN / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openvpn SSH / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openssh Mail Servers / OpenBSD 4.2 / Postfix, MySql, Courier-IMAPm Amavisd-new, SpamAssasin, DNS / OpenBSD 4.2 / PF, CARPm FTP, BIND WEB / OpenBSD 4.2 / TOMCAT SAMBA / Red Hat Linux (RAID 5) Except SAMPA the is no RAID configuration needed. Thanks, //Selva On Dec 20, 2007 5:04 PM, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any clue how large a server and what features (hw RAID, etc) you need? On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Regards, //Selva -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB -- /Selva Selva, I'm not sure how everyone feels about Foxconn hardware, but I've used one of their motherboards (661MX PRO) to deploy an OpenBSD webserver for a small business. Its been running smoothly for about a year now. No complaints. Originally purchased new through cybertronpc.com. Might be worth a look. Be glad to send you a dmesg if it helps. r/s, Luis
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
Lars NoodC)n wrote: we're using G5 HP DL360 and DL380 with no problems whatsoever. Except that the machine uses Intel Celeron/Xeon/Pentium and not G5. Had my hopes up for a second or two there until I saw the actual spec sheet. I think he meant HP DL360/DL380 G5 (Generation five), not the G5 processor :-) -Lars Falk
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html A lot of the models on that list are no longer available new, and many of the problems mentioned are fixed in 4.2 or -current. Yes. Maybe we could compile a more updated list, which would include also the progress along releases of OpenBSD as communicated by people? Maybe patches to the FAQ... No, I think just talking will suffice. Post lots of info about what really should be done and it magically appears. It might not have worked in the past, but thats no reason not to try it again. 1. Compile a list! ...
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
Who is we? You are all talk but no do. Typical GPL debater. On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:58:55AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:53:37AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/12/20 11:28, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Dear Selva, The following list has been useful for me, but I can't make any promises about it's reliability: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html A lot of the models on that list are no longer available new, and many of the problems mentioned are fixed in 4.2 or -current. Yes. Maybe we could compile a more updated list, which would include also the progress along releases of OpenBSD as communicated by people? Maybe patches to the FAQ... Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 62nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3173 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...?
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:48:26AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: Who is we? Right, of course... I won't do it alone, because to do it alone all I have needed is quite well served by http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html But apparently there are more people interested in server lists, so 'we' would mean people interested in that, if you didn't understand it, that is. You are all talk but no do. Typical GPL debater. You are all flame. Typical from the insubstantiate... Rui -- Pzat! Today is Setting Orange, the 68th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3173 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...?
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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: You are all flame. Typical from the insubstantiate... Rui I would not strictly call Marco insubstantiate. Maybe not at all. I see a lot more of code from Marco in OpenBSD than from this Rui Miguel Silva Wonderbra.
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
Mathieu Sauve-Frankel wrote: we're using G5 HP DL360 and DL380 with no problems whatsoever. Except that the machine uses Intel Celeron/Xeon/Pentium and not G5. Had my hopes up for a second or two there until I saw the actual spec sheet. -Lars
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Well, I did not plan to answer your question, just help you ask the question better... I run a HP DL140 G2 with OpenBSD 4.1 i386 and raided root disk (raidframe), and a HP DL145 G3 with OpenBSD 4.1 amd64 MP. The DL140 G2 is a bit old, and I recall there were solvable problems booting OpenBSD 4.1 on a DL140 G3, I had to disable some unrelated USB network device, but I think that problem is fixed in OpenBSD 4.2. The DL140 G2 has a 2.8 GHz Xeon and 2 GByte RAM. It runs on itself pf, apache, sendmail, bind, mailman. These generate the most load. It has almost no users - it is just a web server. I have never tried Dell or IBM servers, but there have been quirks for new hardware for HP servers, and perhaps the lack of help querys for Dell servers is a good sign... On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 08:42:19AM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: Dear Raimo, Here is the brief about the proposed setup. This would be a test bed for Information Assurance business. To summarise the lab will have Firewalls /OpenBSD 4.2 / PF VPN / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openvpn SSH / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openssh Mail Servers / OpenBSD 4.2 / Postfix, MySql, Courier-IMAPm Amavisd-new, SpamAssasin, DNS / OpenBSD 4.2 / PF, CARPm FTP, BIND WEB / OpenBSD 4.2 / TOMCAT SAMBA / Red Hat Linux (RAID 5) Except SAMPA the is no RAID configuration needed. Thanks, //Selva On Dec 20, 2007 5:04 PM, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any clue how large a server and what features (hw RAID, etc) you need? On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Regards, //Selva -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB -- /Selva -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On December 20, 2007 09:12:19 pm Selva Raj wrote: Dear Raimo, Here is the brief about the proposed setup. This would be a test bed for Information Assurance business. To summarise the lab will have Firewalls /OpenBSD 4.2 / PF VPN / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openvpn SSH / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openssh Mail Servers / OpenBSD 4.2 / Postfix, MySql, Courier-IMAPm Amavisd-new, SpamAssasin, DNS / OpenBSD 4.2 / PF, CARPm FTP, BIND WEB / OpenBSD 4.2 / TOMCAT SAMBA / Red Hat Linux (RAID 5) Except SAMPA the is no RAID configuration needed. Thanks, //Selva We used HP DL380 G4's at client sites before. But because of some limitations with the SmartArray 6402 and 6i controllers, ciss cannot provide status information if there is more than one volume. So I switched over to using Dell 2950's with PERC controllers. OpenBSD seems to be a bit slower while booting up on Dell 2950's compared to HP but that has not been a problem yet. for us. Since you are not concerned about RAID, DL380 G4's should work well (I don't have a lot of experience with the G5 models) -- Vijay Sankar, M.Eng., P.Eng. President CEO ForeTell Technologies Limited 59 Flamingo Avenue, Winnipeg, MB Canada R3J 0X6 Phone: +1 204 885 9535, E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenBSD supported servers ?
Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Regards, //Selva
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Dear Selva, The following list has been useful for me, but I can't make any promises about it's reliability: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html Regards, Rui -- Pzat! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 62nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3173 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...?
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On 2007/12/20 11:28, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Dear Selva, The following list has been useful for me, but I can't make any promises about it's reliability: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html A lot of the models on that list are no longer available new, and many of the problems mentioned are fixed in 4.2 or -current.
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
Any clue how large a server and what features (hw RAID, etc) you need? On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Regards, //Selva -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:53:37AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/12/20 11:28, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Dear Selva, The following list has been useful for me, but I can't make any promises about it's reliability: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html A lot of the models on that list are no longer available new, and many of the problems mentioned are fixed in 4.2 or -current. Yes. Maybe we could compile a more updated list, which would include also the progress along releases of OpenBSD as communicated by people? Maybe patches to the FAQ... Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 62nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3173 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...?
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On 2007/12/20 11:58, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:53:37AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/12/20 11:28, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Dear Selva, The following list has been useful for me, but I can't make any promises about it's reliability: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html A lot of the models on that list are no longer available new, and many of the problems mentioned are fixed in 4.2 or -current. Yes. Maybe we could compile a more updated list, which would include also the progress along releases of OpenBSD as communicated by people? Depends who we is - personally I don't have time nor access to much new hardware (the servers I see usually come via ebay), and (apart from the Fujitsu-Siemens I had which doesn't reboot properly which I mentioned here recently, possibly connected with moving i386 to timecounters) they just worktm. From recent misc@ posts, some of the Intel server boards look a bit tricky at the moment, nothing else really stands out. Maybe patches to the FAQ... That might be seen as official recommendations for particular hardware and it's just not possible to test things well enough to do that. Even if all the manufacturers did start sending OpenBSD developers all their new hardware to get it checked out I don't think anyone has time for that. Of the two mentioned (HP/IBM) my *general* impression has been: new HP models often need workarounds for problems (may also apply to Sun) but they mostly work. There isn't much discussion of IBM, I think they are quite a lot less common, it's a bit hard to get a clear picture. There don't seem to be many problems mentioned on misc@ with Dell machines, seems they *gasp* might actually try booting OpenBSD on their hardware themselves.
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Updated faq or not, at the end of the day, you need to vet your own buying decisions. To that end, in this realm, it's not about the brand name *on* the box, but rather the chip sets *in* the box. The primary chip sets are the north- and south-bridge, NIC, and video. The hard drive -- scsi or s-ata or p-ata -- interface chip set, if NOT part of the N/S-bridge, are also very important. In these regards, there *are* best (and better) choices. Obtain the IBM or HP server's technical spec sheet and look up the chip sets and then bench the box against the oBSD drivers for same. I have used IBM servers with obsd. The boxes that use intel north-south bridges, intel nics and ati (2D) video chip sets all worked just fine (since obsd 3.9-4.2). Some series used via, broadcom or nvidia, respectively, in some combination that proved too frustrating. After chip sets comes the oem's BIOS and ACPI implementation. Unlike chip sets, these two bad boys are hard to pre-qualify. IMO, DELL may be an overall safer choice. They tend to favor broadcom nix chips on their server boxes. It's not that bc's wouldn't work at all; it's that they didn't work as well as the i's nic chip -features like tcp off-loading, vlan, teaming, etc. were (at the time) weak or just troublesome. It's my understanding that it's not a silicon thing; it's a driver thing where the -- oem -- hasn't been open-friend thus hindering the open developers. /Scott -Original Message- From: Selva Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD supported servers ? Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:37:34 +0530 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Regards, //Selva
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? we're using G5 HP DL360 and DL380 with no problems whatsoever. -- Mathieu Sauve-Frankel
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
Dear Raimo, Here is the brief about the proposed setup. This would be a test bed for Information Assurance business. To summarise the lab will have Firewalls /OpenBSD 4.2 / PF VPN / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openvpn SSH / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openssh Mail Servers / OpenBSD 4.2 / Postfix, MySql, Courier-IMAPm Amavisd-new, SpamAssasin, DNS / OpenBSD 4.2 / PF, CARPm FTP, BIND WEB / OpenBSD 4.2 / TOMCAT SAMBA / Red Hat Linux (RAID 5) Except SAMPA the is no RAID configuration needed. Thanks, //Selva On Dec 20, 2007 5:04 PM, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any clue how large a server and what features (hw RAID, etc) you need? On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? Any suggestions will be great useful to me. Regards, //Selva -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB -- /Selva
Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?
Mathieu Sauve-Frankel wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:37:34PM +0530, Selva Raj wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a HP or IBM server which can run OpenBSD Operating System out of the box? we're using G5 HP DL360 and DL380 with no problems whatsoever. Note that the DL320G5P (the G5P, the newer model of the G5) doesn't work here, hangs after detecting the usbdevices. I'm collecting more details. Glenn
