Re: OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD 5.9

2016-04-13 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 03:15:59PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 12:31:35 +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 10:12:23 -0500, Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
> >
> >>On 04/08/16 23:25, Rod Whitworth wrote:
> >>> I'm trying to replace Postfix with OpenSMTPD and I'm having a battle.
> >>>
> >>> I don't seem to be able to get the clues to match the hardware and the
> >>> configure recipes that I need.
> >>>
> >>> The most up to date I can find breaks at the second stanza and I can
> >>> guess that the instructions for configuring for PF are for OpenBSD 5.6
> >>> means that I should find a up to date have clue set.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have pointer to a rescue?
> >>>
> >>> Rod/
> >>> (who doesn't want to revert to Postfix..)
> >>>
> >>> *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I  subscribed to the list.
> >>> Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is 
> >>> tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled 
> >>> to reply off list. Thankyou.
> >>>
> >>> Rod/
> >>> ---
> >>> This life is not the real thing.
> >>> It is not even in Beta.
> >>> If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
> >>>
> >>I think you may need to describe what you are trying to achieve. Perhaps 
> >>your old postfix configuration as well.
> >>
> >
> >What I am trying to achieve is a copy of the up-to-date instructions.
> >
> >As I said the most recent copy is around 5.6.
> >I am running 5.9.
> >
> >The most recent recipe is written by someone who makes considerable
> >mods and I like to   refrain from making changes until I find a change
> >that appears to have a solid reason.
> >
> >Postfix is no help in getting OpenSMTPD working. Believe me and I've
> >been running Postfix since about OpenBSD 2.5 and doing it for some
> >large businesses.
> >
> >The present instructions for OpenSMTPD go likes this:
> >1 Install some packages (3)
> >
> >2 Create Maildir
> >
> >Crash. Well it doesn't work as it is suppose to.
> >
> >Study further and realise that you need up to date instructions.
> >
> >So try to install 5.9 OpenBSD and run
> >http://puffysecurity.com/wiki/opensmtpd.html
> >
> >Lots-a-luck.
> >
> >Rod/
> >
> >From the land "down under": Australia.
> >Do we look  from up over?
> >
> 
> Well it seems I must go to Postfix..
>

Postfix is good software, nice choice.


> What I needed was a version 5.9 as distributed not a hero's advanced
> version already heading to 6.0. That is for developers and I respect
> them but they are not for me: I'm not that smart.
> 
> There are some (apart from the 5.9+ code) which are not for me as they
> are (a) not 5.9 code or (b) not polished trying to try for 5.9
> 

After reading the whole thread, I still don't understand your problem,
what you're trying to achieve and what information you're looking for.


> I would love to see someone reply telling me that I have bad eyes and a
> 5.9 is running and it's getting it correct.
>

I'd love to tell you that you have bad eyes, but not knowing what is
your problem nor what you're trying to achieve, I wouldn't know what
I should look for.


> Meanwhile I have to bring up a new server and Postfix seems to be the
> only candidate.
> 
> At least I can build a mailserver that works on that.
> 

Again, good choice, if you're comfortable with running Postfix and you
can't get OpenSMTPD running, I don't know why you're struggling :-)


> Sorry for the noise
> 

np


-- 
Gilles Chehade

https://www.poolp.org  @poolpOrg



Re: OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD 5.9

2016-04-12 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 12:31:35 +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote:

>On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 10:12:23 -0500, Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
>
>>On 04/08/16 23:25, Rod Whitworth wrote:
>>> I'm trying to replace Postfix with OpenSMTPD and I'm having a battle.
>>>
>>> I don't seem to be able to get the clues to match the hardware and the
>>> configure recipes that I need.
>>>
>>> The most up to date I can find breaks at the second stanza and I can
>>> guess that the instructions for configuring for PF are for OpenBSD 5.6
>>> means that I should find a up to date have clue set.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have pointer to a rescue?
>>>
>>> Rod/
>>> (who doesn't want to revert to Postfix..)
>>>
>>> *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I  subscribed to the list.
>>> Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is 
>>> tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled 
>>> to reply off list. Thankyou.
>>>
>>> Rod/
>>> ---
>>> This life is not the real thing.
>>> It is not even in Beta.
>>> If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
>>>
>>I think you may need to describe what you are trying to achieve. Perhaps 
>>your old postfix configuration as well.
>>
>
>What I am trying to achieve is a copy of the up-to-date instructions.
>
>As I said the most recent copy is around 5.6.
>I am running 5.9.
>
>The most recent recipe is written by someone who makes considerable
>mods and I like to   refrain from making changes until I find a change
>that appears to have a solid reason.
>
>Postfix is no help in getting OpenSMTPD working. Believe me and I've
>been running Postfix since about OpenBSD 2.5 and doing it for some
>large businesses.
>
>The present instructions for OpenSMTPD go likes this:
>1 Install some packages (3)
>
>2 Create Maildir
>
>Crash. Well it doesn't work as it is suppose to.
>
>Study further and realise that you need up to date instructions.
>
>So try to install 5.9 OpenBSD and run
>http://puffysecurity.com/wiki/opensmtpd.html
>
>Lots-a-luck.
>
>Rod/
>
>From the land "down under": Australia.
>Do we look  from up over?
>

Well it seems I must go to Postfix..

What I needed was a version 5.9 as distributed not a hero's advanced
version already heading to 6.0. That is for developers and I respect
them but they are not for me: I'm not that smart.

There are some (apart from the 5.9+ code) which are not for me as they
are (a) not 5.9 code or (b) not polished trying to try for 5.9

I would love to see someone reply telling me that I have bad eyes and a
5.9 is running and it's getting it correct.

Meanwhile I have to bring up a new server and Postfix seems to be the
only candidate.

At least I can build a mailserver that works on that.

Sorry for the noise

Rod/


Rod/

>From the land "down under": Australia.
Do we look  from up over?



Re: OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD 5.9

2016-04-10 Thread Pedro Tender
Maybe you should ask whoever is running that site to update it.

The closest thing from an official recipe is from the official openSMTPD
website: https://opensmtpd.org/faq/example1.html
You should start from there and take particular attention that "The
following is not a copy and paste guide. You should know what you are doing
and read the man pages." With your postfix experience I believe you won't
have much of a problem.
On Apr 10, 2016 03:45, "Rod Whitworth"  wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 10:12:23 -0500, Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
>
> >On 04/08/16 23:25, Rod Whitworth wrote:
> >> I'm trying to replace Postfix with OpenSMTPD and I'm having a battle.
> >>
> >> I don't seem to be able to get the clues to match the hardware and the
> >> configure recipes that I need.
> >>
> >> The most up to date I can find breaks at the second stanza and I can
> >> guess that the instructions for configuring for PF are for OpenBSD 5.6
> >> means that I should find a up to date have clue set.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have pointer to a rescue?
> >>
> >> Rod/
> >> (who doesn't want to revert to Postfix..)
> >>
> >> *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I  subscribed to the list.
> >> Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server
> is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel
> compelled to reply off list. Thankyou.
> >>
> >> Rod/
> >> ---
> >> This life is not the real thing.
> >> It is not even in Beta.
> >> If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
> >>
> >I think you may need to describe what you are trying to achieve. Perhaps
> >your old postfix configuration as well.
> >
>
> What I am trying to achieve is a copy of the up-to-date instructions.
>
> As I said the most recent copy is around 5.6.
> I am running 5.9.
>
> The most recent recipe is written by someone who makes considerable
> mods and I like to   refrain from making changes until I find a change
> that appears to have a solid reason.
>
> Postfix is no help in getting OpenSMTPD working. Believe me and I've
> been running Postfix since about OpenBSD 2.5 and doing it for some
> large businesses.
>
> The present instructions for OpenSMTPD go likes this:
> 1 Install some packages (3)
>
> 2 Create Maildir
>
> Crash. Well it doesn't work as it is suppose to.
>
> Study further and realise that you need up to date instructions.
>
> So try to install 5.9 OpenBSD and run
> http://puffysecurity.com/wiki/opensmtpd.html
>
> Lots-a-luck.
>
> Rod/
>
> From the land "down under": Australia.
> Do we look  from up over?



Re: OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD 5.9

2016-04-09 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 10:12:23 -0500, Edgar Pettijohn wrote:

>On 04/08/16 23:25, Rod Whitworth wrote:
>> I'm trying to replace Postfix with OpenSMTPD and I'm having a battle.
>>
>> I don't seem to be able to get the clues to match the hardware and the
>> configure recipes that I need.
>>
>> The most up to date I can find breaks at the second stanza and I can
>> guess that the instructions for configuring for PF are for OpenBSD 5.6
>> means that I should find a up to date have clue set.
>>
>> Does anyone have pointer to a rescue?
>>
>> Rod/
>> (who doesn't want to revert to Postfix..)
>>
>> *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I  subscribed to the list.
>> Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is 
>> tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to 
>> reply off list. Thankyou.
>>
>> Rod/
>> ---
>> This life is not the real thing.
>> It is not even in Beta.
>> If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
>>
>I think you may need to describe what you are trying to achieve. Perhaps 
>your old postfix configuration as well.
>

What I am trying to achieve is a copy of the up-to-date instructions.

As I said the most recent copy is around 5.6.
I am running 5.9.

The most recent recipe is written by someone who makes considerable
mods and I like to   refrain from making changes until I find a change
that appears to have a solid reason.

Postfix is no help in getting OpenSMTPD working. Believe me and I've
been running Postfix since about OpenBSD 2.5 and doing it for some
large businesses.

The present instructions for OpenSMTPD go likes this:
1 Install some packages (3)

2 Create Maildir

Crash. Well it doesn't work as it is suppose to.

Study further and realise that you need up to date instructions.

So try to install 5.9 OpenBSD and run
http://puffysecurity.com/wiki/opensmtpd.html

Lots-a-luck.

Rod/

>From the land "down under": Australia.
Do we look  from up over?



Re: OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD 5.9

2016-04-09 Thread Edgar Pettijohn

On 04/08/16 23:25, Rod Whitworth wrote:

I'm trying to replace Postfix with OpenSMTPD and I'm having a battle.

I don't seem to be able to get the clues to match the hardware and the
configure recipes that I need.

The most up to date I can find breaks at the second stanza and I can
guess that the instructions for configuring for PF are for OpenBSD 5.6
means that I should find a up to date have clue set.

Does anyone have pointer to a rescue?

Rod/
(who doesn't want to revert to Postfix..)

*** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I  subscribed to the list.
Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is 
tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to 
reply off list. Thankyou.

Rod/
---
This life is not the real thing.
It is not even in Beta.
If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.

I think you may need to describe what you are trying to achieve. Perhaps 
your old postfix configuration as well.




OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD 5.9

2016-04-08 Thread Rod Whitworth
I'm trying to replace Postfix with OpenSMTPD and I'm having a battle.

I don't seem to be able to get the clues to match the hardware and the
configure recipes that I need.

The most up to date I can find breaks at the second stanza and I can
guess that the instructions for configuring for PF are for OpenBSD 5.6
means that I should find a up to date have clue set.

Does anyone have pointer to a rescue?

Rod/
(who doesn't want to revert to Postfix..)

*** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I  subscribed to the list.
Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is 
tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to 
reply off list. Thankyou.

Rod/
---
This life is not the real thing.
It is not even in Beta.
If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.