Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:45:01 +0200 Mihai Popescu > Where is the enlightment gone? In proofreading the queuing FAQ and updating the best current practice, thank Marko for bravely trying to understand and apply it with the risk of being insulted unjustly. Line 59

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On 2016-01-15 Fri 12:53 PM |, David Gwynne wrote: > > On 13 Jan 2016, at 19:19, Marko Cupa?? wrote: > > > > Have we come to conclusion that currently prio makes no sense at all? > > it wont have the effect you want. that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense > somewhere else.

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:57:15 +1000 David Gwynne wrote: > the other thing to note is that loading a ruleset resets the > assignment of existing states to queues. > > states are assigned to queues via rules, but if the rules go away > (which is what happens when you load a new

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

> On 15 Jan 2016, at 9:07 PM, Craig Skinner wrote: > > On 2016-01-15 Fri 12:53 PM |, David Gwynne wrote: >>> On 13 Jan 2016, at 19:19, Marko Cupa?? wrote: >>> >>> Have we come to conclusion that currently prio makes no sense at all? >> >> it wont

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

> Ok, let's start insult each other. No insult intended from my side and no one commited. > I've setup my first PF on OpenBSD in 2006. As Master Fu said once, if you can't setup it by yourself, maybe you should not use it. > Stuck your advice up your ass and fuck off. I'm curious who will

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

> On 13 Jan 2016, at 19:19, Marko Cupać wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:40:58 +0100 > Claudio Jeker wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 05:33:06AM -0700, Daniel Melameth wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:37 PM, David Gwynne

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:40:58 +0100 Claudio Jeker wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 05:33:06AM -0700, Daniel Melameth wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:37 PM, David Gwynne > > wrote: > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 22:43, Daniel Melameth

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 10:19:22 +0100 Marko Cupać wrote: > Can I hope that saying 'currently' means this is not the intended > design? Or should I come to peace with the fact that with OpenBSD and > PF I can forget about shaping inbound TCP traffic in a way that > child

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

> I'm writing this so I don't get another set of mails which warn me I > can't shape inbound, but need to shape outbound traffic. Hello Marko, Don't you think you are out of subject with this thread already? Now, seriously, do you expect someone to teach you queues online? Maybe the PF

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:36:23 +0200 Mihai Popescu wrote: > > I'm writing this so I don't get another set of mails which warn me I > > can't shape inbound, but need to shape outbound traffic. > > Hello Marko, > > Don't you think you are out of subject with this thread already? >

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:37:49 +1000 David Gwynne wrote: > prio is basically an array of lists of packets to be transmitted. high > priority packets go on a different list to low priority packets. > the problem is the way packets go on and off these lists. basically > as soon

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:37 PM, David Gwynne wrote: >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 22:43, Daniel Melameth wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Marko Cupać wrote: >>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:11:27 -0700 >>> Daniel Melameth

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 05:33:06AM -0700, Daniel Melameth wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:37 PM, David Gwynne wrote: > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 22:43, Daniel Melameth wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Marko Cupa?? >

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 22:43, Daniel Melameth wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Marko Cupać wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:11:27 -0700 >> Daniel Melameth wrote: >>> You NEED to set a max on your ROOT queues. >> I came to

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Marko Cupać wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:11:27 -0700 > Daniel Melameth wrote: >> You NEED to set a max on your ROOT queues. > I came to this conclusion as well. But not only on root queues. For > example, when max is

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:11:27 -0700 Daniel Melameth wrote: > >> You NEED to set a max on your ROOT queues. > > I came to this conclusion as well. But not only on root queues. For > > example, when max is set on root queue but only bandwidth on child > > queues, no shaping

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:11:27 -0700 Daniel Melameth wrote: > You NEED to set a max on your ROOT queues. I came to this conclusion as well. But not only on root queues. For example, when max is set on root queue but only bandwidth on child queues, no shaping takes place:

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Replies were not what I hoped for, but I still appreciate I didn't get just silence. My claims about the issue were: - setting prio as per manpage instructions does not throttle lower-priority traffic - setting bandwidth on queues as manpage

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

> Situation is still the same: torrents being downloaded at full speed > (~8Mbit/s), simultaneous download of install59.fs from ftp.openbsd.org > averages at ~6Kbit/s. I'm not a PF consultant, but be aware that p2p can be a real beast to setup. I was asked by someone to handle a double NAT

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Marko Cupać wrote: > I am setting up gateway for a small network which has two main types of > traffic: p2p and http(s). The idea is to give p2p traffic all the > available bandwidth until there is http(s) traffic, in which case p2p > should

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

-- Before queue - p2p high priority, http(s) low priority, no bad self image on the misc@. After queue - p2p high priority, http(s) low priority, bad self image on the misc@. Where is the enlightment gone?

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Marko Cupać wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:13:08 -0500 > sven falempin wrote: > > > You will need to forward the all rule set i think, maybe the set prio > > 0 is erased by a further rules, try to pass in quick

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On 8 януари 2016 г. 17:51:21 Marko Cupać wrote: I am completely confused. It seems that everything I've known about queueing in PF does not apply any more, while at the same time there are no reliable sources to learn new stuff. Let's follow this paragraph from 'Book of

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:13:08 -0500 sven falempin wrote: > You will need to forward the all rule set i think, maybe the set prio > 0 is erased by a further rules, try to pass in quick those p2p > traffic before maybe ? I had the luxury of ditching the complete ruleset for

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 22:41:47 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2016-01-07, Marko Cupać wrote: > > # QUEUES > > queue upload on $if_ext bandwidth 860K > >queue ack parent upload qlimit 50 bandwidth 10K > >queue

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Marko Cupać wrote: > Should I conclude my goal of throttling smaller priority traffic to > minimum when higher priority traffic arrives can't be achieved with > current PF? If I haven't gone senile, I did this successfully on dozens > of

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

I am completely confused. It seems that everything I've known about queueing in PF does not apply any more, while at the same time there are no reliable sources to learn new stuff. Let's follow this paragraph from 'Book of PF': ---quote--- Shaping by Setting Traffic Priorities If you’re mainly

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On 2016-01-07, Marko Cupać wrote: > # QUEUES > queue upload on $if_ext bandwidth 860K >queue ack parent upload qlimit 50 bandwidth 10K >queue fast parent upload qlimit 50 bandwidth 20K >queue bulk parent upload qlimit 50 bandwidth

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Marko Cupać wrote: > Hi, > > I am setting up gateway for a small network which has two main types of > traffic: p2p and http(s). The idea is to give p2p traffic all the > available bandwidth until there is http(s) traffic, in which case p2p