Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Ektor Wetterström
I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_bsd_opensolarisnum=1 Best Regards, Ektor

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Tomas Bodzar
I'm missing info about how much and where is real crypto and security techniques used in those systems. Oh waitit's Phoronix. Now it's clear. I have better toy then you benchmark type :-) On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com wrote: I know

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Siju George
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Ektor Wetterstrvm ektw...@gmail.com wrote: I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho...

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Nick Holland
On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho... [benchmarks] facinating number of posts like this recently, all from gmail users we've never seen

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread E.T
Hi Very good performance putty :) On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:36:38 +0200, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com wrote: I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho...

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho... [benchmarks] facinating

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:36:38PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho...

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Ektor Wetterström
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho... [benchmarks] facinating

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Bret S. Lambert
I agree, but you should admit that OpenBSD is clearly a looser in regard to pure performances (e.g. I/O, compression, encryption, etc.) Yes, if my goal is to have ZOMG AWEZUMZ benchmarks, clearly OpenBSD is a douchebag. But if I want a system that doesn't make me want to initiate a mass-

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
I agree, but you should admit that OpenBSD is clearly a looser in regard to pure performances (e.g. I/O, compression, encryption, etc.) Nick. Bye, Ektor They should have also ran tests on multiple hardware, single core and 32bit. 32 bit, out performs 64bit on OpenBSD, atleast in my

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Adam M. Dutko
crickets chirping yawn /crickets chirping Continues working...

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:01:44 -0400, Nick Holland wrote: On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated / non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more credibility imho... [benchmarks] facinating number of posts like

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:20:34 +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: Bye, Promise? *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I am subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to reply

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Ektor Wetterström
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:20:34 +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: Bye, Promise? Sure, this is my last mail on the topic. I only wanted to know Your opinions about these types of benchmarks... By the way, I like OpenBSD and I

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Adam M. Dutko
By the way, I like OpenBSD and I really appreciate its strong points but, unlike You, I have no problems in admitting its weaknesses (I see to much zealotry here)... Not that I have a lot of room to talk because I haven't submitted a patch yet... However, I think the general belief is that

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Reyk Floeter
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 08:39:20AM -0400, Adam M. Dutko wrote: Not that I have a lot of room to talk because I haven't submitted a patch yet... this statement is weird, in some way. reyk

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Adam M. Dutko
this statement is weird, in some way. I concur. I'll shutup. :-)

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Reyk Floeter r...@openbsd.org wrote: this statement is weird, in some way. that statement is self-referential . . . so, I agree, it's a bit weird ;-) reyk

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:29:24 +0200 Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com wrote: (I see to much zealotry here)... It is not zealotry at all. Just a want to be straight and get things correct. Questions which turn out, to be next to meaningless in the real world, can annoy. If I knew what tests

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you know of? Lots of fake people attacking the project on the mailing lists makes them a poor resource for users.

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Ektor Wetterström
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you know of? Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old userland-only thread library), no support for modern filesystems (not even FFS2!),

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Sunnz
2010/6/24, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com: filesystems (not even FFS2!), ?? Please take a look at man newfs? -- IMPORTANT: DO NOT send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. -- IMPORTANT: DO NOT send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents.

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:53:09PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you know of? Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:53:09PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstr?m wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you know of? Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:53:09 +0200 Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you know of? Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Bret S. Lambert
OpenBSD pleases me every day, Linux annoys me half the time. The number of mass casualty events avoided is the true metric by which operating systems should be measured.

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread Jiri B.
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:08:34 +0100 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Would you run X on your linux server, because it's easier. I wouldn't trade PF for better threading any day and you can always use multiple systems, whilst wasting very little power these days, if you try. It's far

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
facinating number of posts like this recently, all from gmail users we've never seen before... Yes, it's troll year.

Re: Phoronix Test Suite

2010-06-23 Thread STeve Andre'
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 11:16:37 Marco Peereboom wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:53:09PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstr?m wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you know of?