Re: Problem with Realtek 8139 in very old machine
Joachim Schipper wrote: > > > Looks like *something* is wonky. You could try another card, or this > card in another machine, if you want to have a go at isolating the > problem. > > For a more practical solution, ask around a bit and install your > firewall on the best machine you've been offered after a couple of > weeks. It's likely to be much better than what you have now, from my > experience. > > Joachim > > Thanks. I already putted my hands on some ISA nic's and on some PCI nic's from other vendors, and will try them all. Unfortunately, i have to sticky with this solution, because i want to build a very low budget firewall, only for my home needs (5 machines). But thanks for the reply. -- Giancarlo Razzolini Linux User 172199 Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 Slackware Current Snike Tecnologia em Informatica 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85
Re: Problem with Realtek 8139 in very old machine
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:07:33AM -0200, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: > Ted Unangst wrote: > > put it in a different slot. > > > > On 12/1/05, Giancarlo Razzolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Hi Folks, > >> I'm building a firewall solution to my home network on top of > >> OpenBSD. > >>The machine that i'm using is a very old Pentium 133Mhz, with only 40MB > >>of RAM (EDO), 4 PCI ports and 5 ISA ports. I do have my VGA card (a > >>trident TGUI) on one PCI, and a Realtek 8139 os other PCI port. The > >>problem that i'm having is that i managed to install openbsd correctly, > >>and it detects my ethernet card correctly, but it can initializate the > >>device. As i don't have network, i can't put a full dmesg here, but it > >>is something like this that shows to me: > >> > >>rl0 XXX no interrupt for pin A > >>: couldn't map interrupt > >> > >> The rl(4) man page only says that it is "A fatal initialization error > >>has occurred". I did some homework and found some guys saying to > >>deactivate plug and play (my BIOS don't have this, instead i deactivated > >>auto irq mappings), other guys saying to deactivate the serial ports. > >>I've done these both, with no success. I've even replaced the card for > >>one that i was sure that was working, with no success. If any of you > >>gurus have some hint for this, i would be vary glad. Perhaps, deactivate > >>the automatic detection, and passing some arguments to the kernel. I > >>don't know. A, by the way, my BIOS only let me to assign IRQ's 14 or 15 > >>to the PCI port where the Realtek is. 14 is currently used for my IDE > >>controller. I know that the ethernet card can share the same IRQ with > >>the IDE controller, but i don't know if the other way arround is true. > >>And if i force some IRQ, my machine doesn't even pass the BIOS checks, > >>and freezes. > First of all i would like to thank everybody that replyed. I tried > putting it on a different slot, and i did something more radical. i've > installed a slackware linux in the machine, and it gave me the same > error. The kernel said to me to try to boot it with the pci=biosirq > option. I did it, and i got a big kernel panic. I'm almost losing my > hopes. The thing that is most painful is that it had a windows 98 > installed on the machine before putting openbsd or the linux. And the > realtek was working. I hate PnP. Well, i'll try to erase the bios, but > i've already tried using the nic, on every slot. My last option will be > to get 2 ISA cards, and try then. Thanks for all you pals. It really > helped me a lot. I've only foung this kind of support in the slackware > mail lists. I heard that the OpenBSD communty was very good, and now i > know why. Looks like *something* is wonky. You could try another card, or this card in another machine, if you want to have a go at isolating the problem. For a more practical solution, ask around a bit and install your firewall on the best machine you've been offered after a couple of weeks. It's likely to be much better than what you have now, from my experience. Joachim
Re: Problem with Realtek 8139 in very old machine
Ted Unangst wrote: > put it in a different slot. > > On 12/1/05, Giancarlo Razzolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hi Folks, >> >> First of all, i would like to congratulate all the openbsd developers, >>because it's a very good OS. I'm a newcomer, from the Linux world, >>precisely slackware. I haven't found much problem adapting myself to >>OpenBSD, thankful to the excelent man pages, FAQ's, HOWTO's and mailing >>list archives, like this. >> >> Now, to the problem: >> I'm building a firewall solution to my home network on top of OpenBSD. >>The machine that i'm using is a very old Pentium 133Mhz, with only 40MB >>of RAM (EDO), 4 PCI ports and 5 ISA ports. I do have my VGA card (a >>trident TGUI) on one PCI, and a Realtek 8139 os other PCI port. The >>problem that i'm having is that i managed to install openbsd correctly, >>and it detects my ethernet card correctly, but it can initializate the >>device. As i don't have network, i can't put a full dmesg here, but it >>is something like this that shows to me: >> >>rl0 XXX no interrupt for pin A >>: couldn't map interrupt >> >> The rl(4) man page only says that it is "A fatal initialization error >>has occurred". I did some homework and found some guys saying to >>deactivate plug and play (my BIOS don't have this, instead i deactivated >>auto irq mappings), other guys saying to deactivate the serial ports. >>I've done these both, with no success. I've even replaced the card for >>one that i was sure that was working, with no success. If any of you >>gurus have some hint for this, i would be vary glad. Perhaps, deactivate >>the automatic detection, and passing some arguments to the kernel. I >>don't know. A, by the way, my BIOS only let me to assign IRQ's 14 or 15 >>to the PCI port where the Realtek is. 14 is currently used for my IDE >>controller. I know that the ethernet card can share the same IRQ with >>the IDE controller, but i don't know if the other way arround is true. >>And if i force some IRQ, my machine doesn't even pass the BIOS checks, >>and freezes. >> >>Thanks in advance, >>-- >>Giancarlo Razzolini >>Linux User 172199 >>Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 >>Slackware Current >>Snike Tecnologia em Informatica >>4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85 >> >> > > First of all i would like to thank everybody that replyed. I tried putting it on a different slot, and i did something more radical. i've installed a slackware linux in the machine, and it gave me the same error. The kernel said to me to try to boot it with the pci=biosirq option. I did it, and i got a big kernel panic. I'm almost losing my hopes. The thing that is most painful is that it had a windows 98 installed on the machine before putting openbsd or the linux. And the realtek was working. I hate PnP. Well, i'll try to erase the bios, but i've already tried using the nic, on every slot. My last option will be to get 2 ISA cards, and try then. Thanks for all you pals. It really helped me a lot. I've only foung this kind of support in the slackware mail lists. I heard that the OpenBSD communty was very good, and now i know why. My regards, -- Giancarlo Razzolini Linux User 172199 Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 Slackware Current Snike Tecnologia em Informatica 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85
Re: Problem with Realtek 8139 in very old machine
Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: >Hi again, > > I've managed to make a serial laplink connection with my linux machine, >so now i'm able to access my OpenBSD machine, using the pppd. > > I'm seding my full dmesg, for your apreciation and i hope it will help >to solve my problem: > Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried clearing your CMOS between all these card flips, and checking to be sure that a card-edge trace (or a slot contactor) hasn't become damaged?
Re: Problem with Realtek 8139 in very old machine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A stab in the dark. > Which card in which slot does matter sometimes > Possible that the video and the nic do not like each other. > A firewall implies at least 2 nics. Do you see both? > Which order? > > In any slot, i have the same problems. I didn't changed the vga card slot yet, i'll try that. I didn't putted the other nic yet, because i didn't made one work. It will be another realtek 8139, so, if one works, the other will be a walk in the park to configure (i hope so). Thanks, -- Giancarlo Razzolini Linux User 172199 Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 Slackware Current Snike Tecnologia em Informatica 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85
Re: Problem with Realtek 8139 in very old machine
put it in a different slot. On 12/1/05, Giancarlo Razzolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > >First of all, i would like to congratulate all the openbsd developers, > because it's a very good OS. I'm a newcomer, from the Linux world, > precisely slackware. I haven't found much problem adapting myself to > OpenBSD, thankful to the excelent man pages, FAQ's, HOWTO's and mailing > list archives, like this. > >Now, to the problem: >I'm building a firewall solution to my home network on top of OpenBSD. > The machine that i'm using is a very old Pentium 133Mhz, with only 40MB > of RAM (EDO), 4 PCI ports and 5 ISA ports. I do have my VGA card (a > trident TGUI) on one PCI, and a Realtek 8139 os other PCI port. The > problem that i'm having is that i managed to install openbsd correctly, > and it detects my ethernet card correctly, but it can initializate the > device. As i don't have network, i can't put a full dmesg here, but it > is something like this that shows to me: > > rl0 XXX no interrupt for pin A > : couldn't map interrupt > >The rl(4) man page only says that it is "A fatal initialization error > has occurred". I did some homework and found some guys saying to > deactivate plug and play (my BIOS don't have this, instead i deactivated > auto irq mappings), other guys saying to deactivate the serial ports. > I've done these both, with no success. I've even replaced the card for > one that i was sure that was working, with no success. If any of you > gurus have some hint for this, i would be vary glad. Perhaps, deactivate > the automatic detection, and passing some arguments to the kernel. I > don't know. A, by the way, my BIOS only let me to assign IRQ's 14 or 15 > to the PCI port where the Realtek is. 14 is currently used for my IDE > controller. I know that the ethernet card can share the same IRQ with > the IDE controller, but i don't know if the other way arround is true. > And if i force some IRQ, my machine doesn't even pass the BIOS checks, > and freezes. > > Thanks in advance, > -- > Giancarlo Razzolini > Linux User 172199 > Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 > Slackware Current > Snike Tecnologia em Informatica > 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85
Problem with Realtek 8139 in very old machine
Hi Folks, First of all, i would like to congratulate all the openbsd developers, because it's a very good OS. I'm a newcomer, from the Linux world, precisely slackware. I haven't found much problem adapting myself to OpenBSD, thankful to the excelent man pages, FAQ's, HOWTO's and mailing list archives, like this. Now, to the problem: I'm building a firewall solution to my home network on top of OpenBSD. The machine that i'm using is a very old Pentium 133Mhz, with only 40MB of RAM (EDO), 4 PCI ports and 5 ISA ports. I do have my VGA card (a trident TGUI) on one PCI, and a Realtek 8139 os other PCI port. The problem that i'm having is that i managed to install openbsd correctly, and it detects my ethernet card correctly, but it can initializate the device. As i don't have network, i can't put a full dmesg here, but it is something like this that shows to me: rl0 XXX no interrupt for pin A : couldn't map interrupt The rl(4) man page only says that it is "A fatal initialization error has occurred". I did some homework and found some guys saying to deactivate plug and play (my BIOS don't have this, instead i deactivated auto irq mappings), other guys saying to deactivate the serial ports. I've done these both, with no success. I've even replaced the card for one that i was sure that was working, with no success. If any of you gurus have some hint for this, i would be vary glad. Perhaps, deactivate the automatic detection, and passing some arguments to the kernel. I don't know. A, by the way, my BIOS only let me to assign IRQ's 14 or 15 to the PCI port where the Realtek is. 14 is currently used for my IDE controller. I know that the ethernet card can share the same IRQ with the IDE controller, but i don't know if the other way arround is true. And if i force some IRQ, my machine doesn't even pass the BIOS checks, and freezes. Thanks in advance, -- Giancarlo Razzolini Linux User 172199 Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 Slackware Current Snike Tecnologia em Informatica 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85
