Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Thanks for your answers. The best would be, to use the man pages if needed. For now, my main question is answered - all other things will come from alone. >> And -- even if you do have a system panic, very often developers can >> make sense out of what went wrong from the output of the debugger's

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Tilo Stritzky
On 19/10/15 23:11 Nick Holland wrote: > ... or ... > > you can look at the big picture and realize... > 1) you probably aren't a developer. > 2) you probably haven't seen a core dump. That's all very nice, but sometimes you don't get to pick your battles, they come and pick you. > and thus, I'l

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Tilo Stritzky
On 19/10/15 23:18 Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > Hello ! > > I readed the FAQ 4.8 about partioning my drive but have a little problem > of understanding. > > The machine has 32 GB physical RAM, the disc is a 256 GB SSD (yes, I know, > I should not use swap on a SSD) and, I installed the latest sn

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Thanks for your answer. > One of the nice things about having a successful savecore(8) is that > the captured dump can provide all the critical bits. So dumps are very > useful to have. Tools like ps(1) and dmesg(8) have -N and -M options > for > post-mortem analysis. > > The crash(8) man page h

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
> Forgot about that... [ ... ] Yep, I will do that and, keep that > But still -- remember what developers ask for most often: a good problem > report: panic message, trace and ps output, a dmesg and info about how > to repeat the problem. If people would reliably provide that, they'd > make deve

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Josh Grosse
On 2015-10-20 07:55, Nick Holland wrote: But still -- remember what developers ask for most often: a good problem report: panic message, trace and ps output, a dmesg and info about how to repeat the problem. If people would reliably provide that, they'd make developers very very happy. Not be

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Nick Holland
On 10/20/15 07:09, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Nick Holland > wrote: >> [...] >> and thus, I'll suggest you just don't worry about it. IF you manage to >> find a way to panic your machine, drop the memory wy down to 2G or >> so, reproduce it

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello ! Thanks for your answer. > Nick, In this case boot.conf: > > machine memory=2G > > would be enough? or should one get other ram sticks...? > > Thanks I keep it as option. For now and till I experienced no panic, I will use the SSD without swap. If I replace the SSD with a normal (big size

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Thanks for your answer and, the detailed explanations. > The core dumps in question here are for when the OS panics. Core dumps > can be used by developers to look at what went wrong, but in order to do > so, you may need everything that was in RAM at the time of the panic. That answered my ques

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
Hi On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Nick Holland wrote: > [...] > and thus, I'll suggest you just don't worry about it. IF you manage to > find a way to panic your machine, drop the memory wy down to 2G or > so, reproduce it and worry about a 2G core dump. Nick, In this case boot.conf: ma

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Thanks for your answer. > 2015/10/20 6:29 "Christoph R. Murauer" : >> >> Hello ! >> >> I readed the FAQ 4.8 about partioning my drive but have a little problem >> of understanding. >> >> The machine has 32 GB physical RAM, > > Wow. Way cool. Yep. > >> the disc is a 256 GB SSD > > That's not shab

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Thanks for your answer. > On Mon, October 19, 2015 8:01 pm, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> I have lots of core dumps sitting around. I have not seen any the size >> of physical memory. Nothing close. Even firefox doesn't leave that >> much of a dump when it bombs. >> >> Hmm. Xombrero, from when I was play

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-19 Thread Nick Holland
On 10/19/15 17:18, Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > Hello ! ... > If I follow the FAQ, then core dumps should not work. I could resize swap > and /var to have the same (or bigger size) as the physical RAM which is > also no problem. My question - or better the things I don't understand (I > found no i

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-19 Thread trondd
On Mon, October 19, 2015 8:01 pm, Joel Rees wrote: > > I have lots of core dumps sitting around. I have not seen any the size > of physical memory. Nothing close. Even firefox doesn't leave that > much of a dump when it bombs. > > Hmm. Xombrero, from when I was playing with that, left a coredump of

Re: Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-19 Thread Joel Rees
2015/10/20 6:29 "Christoph R. Murauer" : > > Hello ! > > I readed the FAQ 4.8 about partioning my drive but have a little problem > of understanding. > > The machine has 32 GB physical RAM, Wow. Way cool. > the disc is a 256 GB SSD That's not shabby, either. > (yes, I know, > I should not use s

Question about core dumps and swap space.

2015-10-19 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello ! I readed the FAQ 4.8 about partioning my drive but have a little problem of understanding. The machine has 32 GB physical RAM, the disc is a 256 GB SSD (yes, I know, I should not use swap on a SSD) and, I installed the latest snapshot from yesterday. So far so good. Disklabel likes to cr