Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-31 Thread Chris Cappuccio
?? ?? [art.is...@yandex.ru] wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:20:10AM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > This is happening for a while now in industry, > > > > If you want to react to this, do something about it at the right place > > to complain, where your voice counts. >

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-28 Thread Peter Hessler
Keep this off list.

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Aug 2015, Karel Gardas wrote: [snip] To OP, yes, I still like to purchase thinkpads although they are going down quality wise, they are still among the best in this business (probably others going down faster?). The problem with alternative hardware is price/performance ratio

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread lists
On 8/27/2015 11:54 AM, Karel Gardas wrote: To OP, yes, I still like to purchase thinkpads although they are going down quality wise, they are still among the best in this business (probably others going down faster?). The problem with alternative hardware is price/performance ratio

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 08:41:13PM +0500, ?? ?? wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:20:10AM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: This is happening for a while now in industry, If you want to react to this, do something about it at the right place to complain, where your voice

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread Karel Gardas
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:20:10AM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: This is happening for a while now in industry, If you want to react to this, do something about it at the right place to complain, where your voice

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread Артур Истомин
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:20:10AM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: This is happening for a while now in industry, If you want to react to this, do something about it at the right place to complain, where your voice counts. Also don't forget your position when you vote with your wallet and

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread Peter Hessler
Please keep this off list.

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread Артур Истомин
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:54:50PM +0200, Karel Gardas wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:20:10AM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: This is happening for a while now in industry, If you want to react to this, do

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread Артур Истомин
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 07:57:20PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 08:41:13PM +0500, ?? ?? wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:20:10AM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: This is happening for a while now in industry, If you want to react to this,

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread Karel Gardas
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Shaun Reiger srei...@sprmail.net wrote: In light of what Lenovo has been doing to its customers by installing spyware like superfish and now installing crapware using Microsoft's Windows Platform Binary Table at the BIOS level. Do people still plan on

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-27 Thread lists
I can't understand you guys. Stating your opinion here is, well... your opinion. As a suggestion, you can write a nice hardware buyer guide for OpenBSD on your own web space and see how this goes. Now, consider keeping it up to date, and support feedback to make it factually correct, for as

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-26 Thread Gene
Why should OpenBSD users be concerned? Doesn't this injection method only work when the running OS is Windows? Or are you thinking it would be a matter of principle? -Gene On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Shaun Reiger srei...@sprmail.net wrote: In light of what Lenovo has been doing to its

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-26 Thread Denis Fondras
In light of what Lenovo has been doing to its customers by installing spyware like superfish and now installing crapware using Microsoft's Windows Platform Binary Table at the BIOS level. Do people still plan on purchasing laptops from them going forward. If so whats your reasoning behind

Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-26 Thread Shaun Reiger
In light of what Lenovo has been doing to its customers by installing spyware like superfish and now installing crapware using Microsoft's Windows Platform Binary Table at the BIOS level. Do people still plan on purchasing laptops from them going forward. If so whats your reasoning behind this. Is

Re: Thinkpad spyware

2015-08-26 Thread L.R. D.S.
This is happening for a while now in industry, and even openbsd developers knowing this, they still suggest Lenovo hardware: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=143671215412596w=2 I can't understand you guys. There projects running trying to develop Open Hardware, and I see no such support for