On 2016-10-02 18:14, Chris Bennett wrote:
On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 01:03:28AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:54:40PM -0600, Theo
On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 01:03:28AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:54:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >> > Use of su,
> > This is just one mechanism on tty, there are others. On other
> > descriptors there are other abilities.
> >
>
> Would you mind explaining this a little bit. I don't really mean the
> sudo/doas part.
>
> How to do operations without retaining access to a tty?
>
> What other descriptors?
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:54:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>> > Use of su, doas, or sudo -- means you EXPLICITLY want the tty to
>> > remain the same.
>>
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:54:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Use of su, doas, or sudo -- means you EXPLICITLY want the tty to
> > remain the same.
> >
> > De-escalation using these "sudo" or "doas" like tools on a tty is
> >
On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 07:10:12AM +0200, Sebastien Marie wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:54:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > Use of su, doas, or sudo -- means you EXPLICITLY want the tty to
> > > remain the same.
> > >
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:54:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Use of su, doas, or sudo -- means you EXPLICITLY want the tty to
> > remain the same.
> >
> > De-escalation using these "sudo" or "doas" like tools on a tty is
> >
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:54:40PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Use of su, doas, or sudo -- means you EXPLICITLY want the tty to
> remain the same.
>
> De-escalation using these "sudo" or "doas" like tools on a tty is
> somewhat unsafe - it has always been unsafe - because tty's have
>
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