Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD???

2011-10-03 Thread Andres Perera
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
 On 10/01/11 23:08, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
 Not again people, please.

 Stop feeding.

 Yes.
 Yet another never-heard-from-before-or-again loser (and *always* using a
 gmail account...isn't that interesting?) posting a link to that loser's
 site (which is hosted on google, and MX records point to google). B $0.50
 says it's the same loser who writes that dribble and posts the link here.

well, you narrowed down the list of suspects to the gazillion of
people that use gmail


 And then a bunch of people who should know better jump all over him, not
 unjustifiably, but include the link of the crap in their reply, giving
 more advertising to the site and higher search engine ratings. B Mission
 accomplished.

 IF you have to reply to someone posting a stupid link (even an
 UNINTENTIONALLY stupid link...you know, the well-intended ones that
 provide bddd advice), do the world a favor and remove the link from
 your reply...

 Nick.



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD???

2011-10-02 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
 On 10/01/11 23:08, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
 Not again people, please.

 Stop feeding.

 Yes.
 Yet another never-heard-from-before-or-again loser (and *always* using a
 gmail account...isn't that interesting?) posting a link to that loser's
 site (which is hosted on google, and MX records point to google). B $0.50
 says it's the same loser who writes that dribble and posts the link here.

 And then a bunch of people who should know better jump all over him, not
 unjustifiably, but include the link of the crap in their reply, giving
 more advertising to the site and higher search engine ratings. B Mission
 accomplished.

 IF you have to reply to someone posting a stupid link (even an
 UNINTENTIONALLY stupid link...you know, the well-intended ones that
 provide bddd advice), do the world a favor and remove the link from
 your reply...

That guy must know a lot about security for sure. He has fcb account
(find that, don't want to make PR for him) so real guru :-) It turns
his complaints about security, FBI, backdoors and other stuff in to
really high level joke :-)

In the end his page has title which says enough how serious are all
his post. BTW did not find his name in cvs@, tech@, misc@ so I'm
curious with what he contributed to code as he writes about that.
Maybe some invisible improvement? :-)



 Nick.



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD…

2011-10-02 Thread Marc Smith
It would be nice to have an official report, but IIRC there have been
many news on the net explaining results of this audit. It actually said
what happened and what didn't happen. Looks like response to me.
Probobly that is not sufficient for you and that's ok.
The problem is that after this observation your post became way too
emotional. OpenBSD songs, artwork have absolutely nothing to do with the
actual code of the OS.
Your final conclusion seems to be exaggerated, or - in best case -
inaccurate, because you claim that this one incident itself makes
OpenBSD minefield of holes and cracks and that OpenBSD is about as
secure as swiss cheese..
That just doesn't sound professional to me either. You're making unbased
statement. It has nothing to do with reality, as I'm seeing it.


Kepping things short: Wow, you're overreacting.

Regards

W dniu 02.10.2011 02:49, Lionel Hutchence pisze:
 http://www.trollaxor.com/2011/10/why-i-uninstalled-openbsd.html



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD…

2011-10-02 Thread Sviatoslav Chagaev
RTFM.

http://www.openbsd.org/security.html#process
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD???

2011-10-02 Thread Marc Smith
Yep, my bad, guys. I'm kind of busy and I didn't take my time to read
this reply. Next time I'll be more aware of that kind of tricks.

Regards

W dniu 02.10.2011 06:44, Nick Holland pisze:
 On 10/01/11 23:08, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
 Not again people, please.

 Stop feeding.
 
 Yes.
 Yet another never-heard-from-before-or-again loser (and *always* using a
 gmail account...isn't that interesting?) posting a link to that loser's
 site (which is hosted on google, and MX records point to google).  $0.50
 says it's the same loser who writes that dribble and posts the link here.
 
 And then a bunch of people who should know better jump all over him, not
 unjustifiably, but include the link of the crap in their reply, giving
 more advertising to the site and higher search engine ratings.  Mission
 accomplished.
 
 IF you have to reply to someone posting a stupid link (even an
 UNINTENTIONALLY stupid link...you know, the well-intended ones that
 provide bddd advice), do the world a favor and remove the link from
 your reply...
 
 Nick.



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD???

2011-10-02 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:44:01 -0400, Nick Holland wrote:

On 10/01/11 23:08, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
 Not again people, please.
 
 Stop feeding.

Yes.
Yet another never-heard-from-before-or-again loser (and *always* using a
gmail account...isn't that interesting?) posting a link to that loser's
site (which is hosted on google, and MX records point to google).  $0.50
says it's the same loser who writes that dribble and posts the link here.

And then a bunch of people who should know better jump all over him, not
unjustifiably, but include the link of the crap in their reply, giving
more advertising to the site and higher search engine ratings.  Mission
accomplished.

IF you have to reply to someone posting a stupid link (even an
UNINTENTIONALLY stupid link...you know, the well-intended ones that
provide bddd advice), do the world a favor and remove the link from
your reply...

Nick.

++99

+1 was not enough.
Thanks Nick!
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Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD???

2011-10-02 Thread Lars Hansson
Yeah, my bad too. Shouldn't have replied.
---
Lars



Why I uninstalled OpenBSD…

2011-10-01 Thread Lionel Hutchence
http://www.trollaxor.com/2011/10/why-i-uninstalled-openbsd.html



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD…

2011-10-01 Thread Javier Bassi
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Lionel Hutchence
lionel.hutche...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.trollaxor.com/2011/10/why-i-uninstalled-openbsd.html

I _almost_ thought he wasn't trolling (despite the domain name) until
I saw his others posts about OpenBSD. Then it was just too obvious.



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD…

2011-10-01 Thread bofh
why are you trolling?

any idiot who can rub two neurons can think of the following points:

1) formal audit cost $$
2) this is a free project, always not enough $$
3) anyone who can write code can audit it for themselves
4) the stupid troll's point that other project uses openbsd's code -
that means they have read the code and looked at it and found it good
enough to be incorporated into their code base - in other words, they
audited it internally



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Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD…

2011-10-01 Thread Matt S
Absolute rubbish! You want to uninstall OpenBSD, go ahead, it's your risk and
loss.



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Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD???

2011-10-01 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
Not again people, please.

Stop feeding.



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD???

2011-10-01 Thread Nick Holland
On 10/01/11 23:08, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
 Not again people, please.
 
 Stop feeding.

Yes.
Yet another never-heard-from-before-or-again loser (and *always* using a
gmail account...isn't that interesting?) posting a link to that loser's
site (which is hosted on google, and MX records point to google).  $0.50
says it's the same loser who writes that dribble and posts the link here.

And then a bunch of people who should know better jump all over him, not
unjustifiably, but include the link of the crap in their reply, giving
more advertising to the site and higher search engine ratings.  Mission
accomplished.

IF you have to reply to someone posting a stupid link (even an
UNINTENTIONALLY stupid link...you know, the well-intended ones that
provide bddd advice), do the world a favor and remove the link from
your reply...

Nick.



Re: Why I uninstalled OpenBSD…

2011-10-01 Thread James Shupe
Today's post: I uninstalled OpenBSD the other day after using it since
version 4.0 came out five years ago.

Another post, dated 06/03/2010: I was a long-time OpenBSD user since
the 3.1 days, and cut my teeth on Unix development there.

Of course, this guy lost all credibility here long before this post came
along.

Thank you,
James Shupe