Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-24 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lars Noodin wrote: 2) Under what circumstances (generally) would one encounter a situation where it would strongly desirable to have a custom kernel? When I happened to get an obsd kernel running on an 8M memory machine by stripping out network support,

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-18 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 18:59]: Hi 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 15:51]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-18 17:13]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 18:59]: Hi 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 15:51]: 2008/1/16,

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? nothing. there is no need to compile a kernel for the soekris. further, there is no use in compiling a !GENERIC kernel for soekris either. (ok, rare

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? nothing. there is no need to compile a kernel for the soekris. further, there is no use in compiling a

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:01:28 +0100, Piotrek Kapczuk wrote: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? nothing. there is no need to compile a kernel for

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 12:05]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? nothing. there is no need to compile a kernel

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:19PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: | IMHO every embedded device should have console speed synced between | bios and the kernel. These options are very helpful. I completely agree with the first part here. BIOS, kernel and console speed should be the same across the

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Lars Noodén
Paul de Weerd wrote: ... Don't forget to change the speed on the getty running on the serial port in /etc/ttys ... to summarize for the sake of the archives: /etc/boot.conf: stty com0 38400 set tty com0 /etc/ttys: tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.38400 vt220on

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:16:40PM +0200, Lars Nood??n wrote: | ... (see ttys(5) for more info). But yeah, like Henning | said .. absolutely no need to build a new kernel. | | 1) Should anything be done to the GENERIC kernel's run time | configuration then to improve performance, reduce system

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread knitti
On 1/16/08, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Should anything be done to the GENERIC kernel's run time configuration then to improve performance, reduce system requirements or otherwise prevent it from making beer go flat? nope. I've been running a couple of net4501 (100MHz/64MB RAM)

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 13:35]: | 2) Under what circumstances (generally) would one encounter a situation | where it would strongly desirable to have a custom kernel? I think the goal is never. Under no circumstances *should* it be 'strongly desirable' to have a custom

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 12:05]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris?

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 14:18]: Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashboot customisations. Thanks for pointing this out. flash boot and teh like are obsolete ways to complicate your life. -- Henning

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 14:18]: Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashboot customisations. Thanks for pointing this out. flash boot and teh like are

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 15:51]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 14:18]: Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashboot customisations.

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Richard Daemon
On Jan 16, 2008 9:42 AM, Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 14:18]: Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashboot

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
Hi 2008/1/16, Richard Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 16, 2008 9:42 AM, Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 14:18]: Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Nick Holland
Richard Daemon wrote: ... As for others saying 'why re-compile GENERIC', well, GENERIC is awesome in itself and there is no need generally. But I think the reason for some people is that they too like tweaking /usr/src/sys/conf/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/arch/$ARCH/conf/GENERIC to remove any

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 12:05]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? nothing. there is no need to

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
Paul de Weerd wrote: [...] port in /etc/ttys (see ttys(5) for more info). But yeah, like Henning said .. absolutely no need to build a new kernel. Definitely not worth the effort just to change the console speed. I do custom kernels to build a ramdisk kernel that has some special

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Bryan Irvine
2) Under what circumstances (generally) would one encounter a situation where it would strongly desirable to have a custom kernel? An appletalk router. -Bryan

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
Hi 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 15:51]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 14:18]: Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in flashboot. I'll

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 18:59]: Hi 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 15:51]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-16 14:18]: Didn't know it is

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Richard Daemon
On Jan 16, 2008 12:20 PM, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Daemon wrote: ... As for others saying 'why re-compile GENERIC', well, GENERIC is awesome in itself and there is no need generally. But I think the reason for some people is that they too like tweaking

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Cappuccio
You can tweak this in boot.conf, it's not necessary to alter the kernel config. Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for

building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Lars Noodén
What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? I would like to build a streamlined kernel to run on a net4801. I'm running into problems though. 'make depend' runs without error, but then 'make' comes up with many errors like the following:

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Diana Eichert
take a look at one of the stripped embedded OpenBSD builds out there, flashdist or flashboot. diana

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Daemon
On Jan 15, 2008 11:34 AM, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? I would like to build a streamlined kernel to run on a net4801. I'm running into problems though. 'make depend' runs without error, but then

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Lars Noodén
Richard Daemon wrote: Are you compiling from i386 or amd64, or other? Is it -current, -stable or -release that you're compiling? -stable on i386 OpenBSD compilorama 4.2 GENERIC#375 i386 Personally, I just run 4.2-stable on my Soekris Wrap boxes as well as my Yeah the regular installation