Re: i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
Nick Holland wrote: > At this point, I think it is fair to say i386 has entered "legacy" > state. I think it would be fair to say that the most active development > is taking place on the amd64 platform and being pushed out to others. I > think that's a better reason than performance. Wasn't it already "legacy" at least ten years ago? I don't remember last time I saw it in the wild really. -- caóc
Re: i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 07:24:32PM +0200, Michael Hekeler wrote: > > The difference in RAM usage on boot is something around a dozen > > megabytes. You won't notice this. > > I think so, too > > > > The only good reason to run i386 is if your system doesn't support > > amd64. > > ++ Important extra reason: even with limited physical memory amd64 has a huge virtual address space, enabling addres space randomization to work much more effective than on i386. -Otto
Re: i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
> The difference in RAM usage on boot is something around a dozen > megabytes. You won't notice this. I think so, too > The only good reason to run i386 is if your system doesn't support > amd64. ++
Re: i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
I have a virtually identical setup on my primary laptop (i5 540M, 8GB RAM) running amd64 and my netbook (Atom N455, 2GB RAM) running i386. The difference in RAM usage on boot is something around a dozen megabytes. You won't notice this. The only good reason to run i386 is if your system doesn't support amd64. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Michael Hekelerwrote: > > Regarding OS and ports performance, does it make sense to use i386 > > rather than amd64 ? > > What is the meaning of "OS and ports performance"? > Do you have concerns about the memory usage? Maybe we can say: > AMD64 installs will always use more RAM than i386, so if you are low on > RAM, then i386 will work faster. But with 4GB you aren´t low on RAM. > >
Re: i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
> Regarding OS and ports performance, does it make sense to use i386 > rather than amd64 ? What is the meaning of "OS and ports performance"? Do you have concerns about the memory usage? Maybe we can say: AMD64 installs will always use more RAM than i386, so if you are low on RAM, then i386 will work faster. But with 4GB you aren´t low on RAM.
Re: i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
On 09/13/17 09:42, Joel Carnat wrote: > Hi, > > My Cloud instances are always small (1 ou 2 vCPU, far less than 4GB of > RAM). > > From what I saw, all the ports I need are available in i386 and amd64. > Every Cloud provider I checked are using KVM hypervisor. > > Regarding OS and ports performance, does it make sense to use i386 > rather than amd64 ? > Or is amd64 somehow better even on small configurations ? hm. I must have been napping. when did 4G RAM become small? Guess I should quit hoarding the 4G disks, eh? :) (says the guy who just noticed a 2G RAM machine currently has almost 1.3G swap in use) In a shared resource environment, the performance of i386 vs amd64 is not going to be noticeable compared to the impact other people sharing your physical CPUs, disks, and network resources. And if the performance was your concern, you wouldn't be talking about just one cpu systems. At this point, I think it is fair to say i386 has entered "legacy" state. I think it would be fair to say that the most active development is taking place on the amd64 platform and being pushed out to others. I think that's a better reason than performance. Nick.
Re: i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
Hi Joel, I personally would use amd64. It seems to be the main focus of the most developer especially in virtualized environments. Kind regards Karsten Am 13.09.2017 3:52 nachm. schrieb "Joel Carnat": > Hi, > > My Cloud instances are always small (1 ou 2 vCPU, far less than 4GB of > RAM). > > From what I saw, all the ports I need are available in i386 and amd64. > Every Cloud provider I checked are using KVM hypervisor. > > Regarding OS and ports performance, does it make sense to use i386 rather > than amd64 ? > Or is amd64 somehow better even on small configurations ? > > Thanks, > Jo > >
i386 or amd64 from small Cloud instance ?
Hi, My Cloud instances are always small (1 ou 2 vCPU, far less than 4GB of RAM). From what I saw, all the ports I need are available in i386 and amd64. Every Cloud provider I checked are using KVM hypervisor. Regarding OS and ports performance, does it make sense to use i386 rather than amd64 ? Or is amd64 somehow better even on small configurations ? Thanks, Jo