installer - moving sets location right after network for automated installation

2013-03-07 Thread Jiri B 
Hi,

I was thinking that if we would move part in the installer which let the user
locate installation sets right after setting networking, we could introduce
some install.site alternative which could feed installer with configuration
for setting disks etc...

Or is there any (semi)official idea how should automated/configurable
OpenBSD installer look like in the future?

jirib

Re: installer - moving sets location right after network for automated installation

2013-03-07 Thread Theo de Raadt 
 I was thinking that if we would move part in the installer which let the user
 locate installation sets right after setting networking, we could introduce
 some install.site alternative which could feed installer with configuration
 for setting disks etc...

 Or is there any (semi)official idea how should automated/configurable
 OpenBSD installer look like in the future?

There are hints in your email to suggest you've not read and understood
the install script code.

Re: installer - moving sets location right after network for automated installation

2013-03-07 Thread Kenneth R Westerback 
On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 12:19:22PM -0500, Jiri B wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was thinking that if we would move part in the installer which let the user
 locate installation sets right after setting networking, we could introduce
 some install.site alternative which could feed installer with configuration
 for setting disks etc...
 
 Or is there any (semi)official idea how should automated/configurable
 OpenBSD installer look like in the future?

Several people have talked about and even implemented such systems. No
official idea's currently exist.

 Ken

 
 jirib

Re: installer - moving sets location right after network for automated installation

2013-03-07 Thread Jiri B 
On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 10:23:41AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
  I was thinking that if we would move part in the installer which let the 
  user
  locate installation sets right after setting networking, we could introduce
  some install.site alternative which could feed installer with configuration
  for setting disks etc...
 
  Or is there any (semi)official idea how should automated/configurable
  OpenBSD installer look like in the future?
 
 There are hints in your email to suggest you've not read and understood
 the install script code.

Yes, you were right. But thank you for directing me clearly.

For archives, install.sub defines couple of variables and functions
which can be defined/overriden via install.md to customize installation.

The disadvantage here is one has to rebuild ramdisk manually.

jirib

Re: installer - moving sets location right after network for automated installation

2013-03-07 Thread Theo de Raadt 
 On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 10:23:41AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
   I was thinking that if we would move part in the installer which let the 
   user
   locate installation sets right after setting networking, we could 
   introduce
   some install.site alternative which could feed installer with 
   configuration
   for setting disks etc...
  
   Or is there any (semi)official idea how should automated/configurable
   OpenBSD installer look like in the future?
  
  There are hints in your email to suggest you've not read and understood
  the install script code.
 
 Yes, you were right. But thank you for directing me clearly.

I am not directing you.

 For archives, install.sub defines couple of variables and functions
 which can be defined/overriden via install.md to customize installation.

That is irrelevant to what you suggested.

 The disadvantage here is one has to rebuild ramdisk manually.

So change it, as you suggested above.

Do you not understand what you said that is so disruptive??

You are suggesting changing the entire *order* of operations that the
scripts do.  It is not as simple as you suggest.

The 5th word in your original email is we, and what you really mean
to use there is the plural you.

Re: installer - moving sets location right after network for automated installation

2013-03-07 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas 
Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org writes:
[...]
 The 5th word in your original email is we, and what you really mean
 to use there is the plural you.

Is that a new theo.c entry?

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Re: installer - moving sets location right after network for automated installation

2013-03-07 Thread Todd Alan Smith 
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
jca+o...@wxcvbn.org wrote:
 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org writes:
 [...]
 The 5th word in your original email is we, and what you really mean
 to use there is the plural you.

 Is that a new theo.c entry?

+1