Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-07 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 06 Apr 2015, Kevin Chadwick wrote: [snip] https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/spectrwm Is a tiling wm and hacked up by OpenBSD devs. I'd be using that but I'm not sure I could make it easy for my users to use it (not it's aim) and until I have time to find out then I like to use

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-07 Thread L.R. D.S.
At 7 Apr 2015 05:07:58 + (UTC) from Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com: Switch back to the virtual console you ran startx from after you try the menu items and read the messages waiting there for you. (Of course, I was confused until yesterday, too.) You're right ... I thought I saw that the WM

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread patrick keshishian
On 4/6/15, L.R. D.S. arrowscr...@mail.com wrote: At 6 Apr 2015 23:12:43 + (UTC) from Brian Callahan bcal...@devio.us: Or, and this is just a hypothesis, you don't have all those other things and FVWM lists those for convenience. No, I can load everything normally... ok, I'm a bit worried

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Henrique Lengler
On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 07:12:43PM -0400, Brian Callahan wrote: Or, and this is just a hypothesis, you don't have all those other things and FVWM lists those for convenience. I include CWM and FVWM, I don't know why include two WM. -- Regards Henrique Lengler

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread L.R. D.S.
At 6 Apr 2015 22:55:07 + (UTC) from Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com: Huh? Well, I was MitM'd ? The current snapshot (install57.iso) have all that packages here... When 'startx' they enter on Fvwm by default and when click on screen have: (Re)Start WM's

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread L.R. D.S.
I think developers could do with WM the same done with lynx, remove and put on ports. I don't think someone need all the 9 WM on base system (fvwm, cwm, wm2, twm, ctwm, flwm, mwm, openbox and tvtwm). That's bloat. And flwm need fltk 1.3.X. JWM is really user friendly, minimal, don't have

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Ted Unangst
L.R. D.S. wrote: I think developers could do with WM the same done with lynx, remove and put on ports. I don't think someone need all the 9 WM on base system (fvwm, cwm, wm2, twm, ctwm, flwm, mwm, openbox and tvtwm). Huh? carbolite:~ wm2 ksh: wm2: not found carbolite:~ ctwm ksh: ctwm: not

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread L.R. D.S.
At 6 Apr 2015 23:12:43 + (UTC) from Brian Callahan bcal...@devio.us: Or, and this is just a hypothesis, you don't have all those other things and FVWM lists those for convenience. No, I can load everything normally... ok, I'm a bit worried now. I always check the signatures before/after

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Brian Callahan
On 04/06/15 19:08, L.R. D.S. wrote: At 6 Apr 2015 22:55:07 + (UTC) from Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com: Huh? Well, I was MitM'd ? The current snapshot (install57.iso) have all that packages here... When 'startx' they enter on Fvwm by default and when click on screen have: (Re)Start

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
sorry for low level response , about openbox , all know that $ cp -R /etc/xdg/openbox/* ~/.config/openbox $ cat .xinitrc exec openbox-session by the way in linux , i love lxde (speed=xfce4 , but more modern). and i have recieved email. that recommend i3 ( http://i3wm.org/ ) which

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Apr 7, 2015 8:42 AM, patrick keshishian pkeshish pkesh...@gmail.com@ pkesh...@gmail.comgmail.com pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/6/15, L.R. D.S. arrowscript arrowscr...@mail.com@ arrowscr...@mail.commail.com arrowscr...@mail.com wrote: At 6 Apr 2015 23:12:43 + (UTC) from Brian Callahan

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Joel Rees
Otsukaresama desu. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Tuyosi Takesima nakajin.fu...@gmail.com wrote: thanks fo reply . i understand jwm's state at present. openbsd's default X window manager(i don't know it's name) is difficult to use especially non-english language user . it's defect is that

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Kevin Chadwick m8il1i...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:19:57 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: I'm using XFCE4 okay. It's a bit heavy, but I can use it, with patience. (I need to check my X11 configuration.) But fvwm, the default window manager, is no lighter

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:19:57 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: I'm using XFCE4 okay. It's a bit heavy, but I can use it, with patience. (I need to check my X11 configuration.) But fvwm, the default window manager, is no lighter than XFCE4. Do you mean xfwm which is based on fvwm, if so the lightness

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
Eivind Eide xeno...@gmail.com writes: i recommend jwm as window manager . Second that. It's a good WM for slow systems. But obsd port sticks at 2.1.0 http://openports.se/x11/jwm while upstreams have 2.2.2 http://www.joewing.net/projects/jwm/release-2.2.shtml#v2.2.2 ...probably have to

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 22:11:21 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: On my twelve or thirteen year old single-processor 32-bit box running a Japanese IME and stuff that works with Japanese, fvwm doesn't really feel any lighter. Typing really lags sometimes when the processor gets busy. Which is what I

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-06 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 22:11:21 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Kevin Chadwick m8il1i...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:19:57 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: I'm using XFCE4 okay. It's a bit heavy, but I can use it, with patience. (I need to

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-05 Thread Henrique Lengler
On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 09:59:29AM +0900, Tuyosi Takesima wrote: thanks fo reply . i understand jwm's state at present. openbsd's default X window manager(i don't know it's name) is difficult to use especially non-english language user . OpenBSD have cwm and fvwm and I don't know why. --

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-05 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
i use ibus-anthy $ pkg_info | grep ibus ibus-1.5.5 intelligent input bus framework ibus-anthy-1.5.4japanese input engine for ibus and start by it /usr/local/bin/ibus-daemon -d -x -r i'll try cwm someday after studing it . thank you. --- tuyosi takesima

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-05 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
thanks fo reply . i understand jwm's state at present. openbsd's default X window manager(i don't know it's name) is difficult to use especially non-english language user . it's defect is that it doesn't show the state of input method. jwm show the state of input method(right under) and speedy .

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-05 Thread Eivind Eide
i recommend jwm as window manager . Second that. It's a good WM for slow systems. But obsd port sticks at 2.1.0 http://openports.se/x11/jwm while upstreams have 2.2.2 http://www.joewing.net/projects/jwm/release-2.2.shtml#v2.2.2 ...probably have to read myself up on updating obsd ports one day

Re: jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-05 Thread Bryan Linton
On 2015-04-06 09:59:29, Tuyosi Takesima nakajin.fu...@gmail.com wrote: thanks fo reply . i understand jwm's state at present. openbsd's default X window manager(i don't know it's name) is difficult to use especially non-english language user . it's defect is that it doesn't show the state

jwm ; speedy window manager

2015-04-05 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
Hi , all . i recommend jwm as window manager . it is light ant easy to use . so it is used on puppy linux . 1) pkg_add jwm 2) .xinitrc jwm 3) startx that all tuyosi takesima