Re: laptop questions/comments
I purchased a Lenovo u150. Every device other than bluetooth work great in OpenBSD 4.8 and higher. Even the webcam works for video chat. Great little laptop that is 64bit capable, small, better screen resolution than the older thinkpads, and cheap Nick On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 16:20, Clint Pachl pa...@ecentryx.com wrote: STeve Andre' wrote: On 04/15/11 19:03, Paul M wrote: Hi all, It's time for a new OpenBSD laptop, and I have a couple of questions. Note that I dont want to spend money on performance I dont need, but I do want to spend money on a decent quality machine. First, finding quality machines in the backwoods where I live is really hard. The shops seem full of rubbish. Various retailers suggest either Toshiba or Asus. Does anybody have any comments on these brands in general? I'll admit to a psychological block against Toshiba, but I have no idea where it came from, it could be completely bogus. Second, One I've found which seems a good fit is the Toshiba Satellite Pro C650 (with the celeron cpu, not the i3). Anybody using one of these with OpenBSD? I stuck a 4.8 release CD in, and the dmesg indicated problems with these devices (sorry for the vagueness, I was scribbling down stuff in the store. I can get better info if it's required)- Intel GM45 Attansic something - 0x2060 - the 10/100 wired ethernet SMBus ehci1 timed out waiting for bios There was also a message at the end that suggested that wd1 was not available. Anybody know how things have improved with these devices since 4.8, and which are showstoppers? The camera and audio also appeared to have limited or no support, but I dont care about those. Thanks for any input paulm Definitely use a 4.9-current CD. New things are supported all the time, so go with the best version of OpenBSD. I get hornswoggled all too often in helping folks with their laptops, and I'm really saddened with the quality of the hardware, overall. The Lenovo ThinkPads (NOT the other brands that Lenovo has) have consistently been the best laptops out there, in terms of quality, serviceability, and life-span. The $400 laptop can be considered a throwaway unit. Few of the bargin laptops friends bought in 2009 are working today. If you look at the Lenovo site you'll see the T series. A T420i is $799 with a 1 year warranty. Thats more money than a $499 laptop, but it is likely to work several years from now. --STeve Andre' I second the Thinkpads. I recently upgraded from a T22 to a T61 (Core2 Duo, 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM). It cost me about 400 USD for the like-new laptop, docking station, and a brand new 8GB SSD (all on Ebay). All I had to do was replace the CPU fan and install the SSD. I run amd64 -current. All the relevant hardware works very well. I run cwm(1), xterm, tmux, Gimp, Chromium, Firefox, Seamonkey-Mail. It's a very fast system, way more computer than I need and will last me many years, as my T22 did. -- Nicholas Schmidt oneguyn...@gmail.com P: 661.724.6438
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STeve Andre' wrote: On 04/15/11 19:03, Paul M wrote: Hi all, It's time for a new OpenBSD laptop, and I have a couple of questions. Note that I dont want to spend money on performance I dont need, but I do want to spend money on a decent quality machine. First, finding quality machines in the backwoods where I live is really hard. The shops seem full of rubbish. Various retailers suggest either Toshiba or Asus. Does anybody have any comments on these brands in general? I'll admit to a psychological block against Toshiba, but I have no idea where it came from, it could be completely bogus. Second, One I've found which seems a good fit is the Toshiba Satellite Pro C650 (with the celeron cpu, not the i3). Anybody using one of these with OpenBSD? I stuck a 4.8 release CD in, and the dmesg indicated problems with these devices (sorry for the vagueness, I was scribbling down stuff in the store. I can get better info if it's required)- Intel GM45 Attansic something - 0x2060 - the 10/100 wired ethernet SMBus ehci1 timed out waiting for bios There was also a message at the end that suggested that wd1 was not available. Anybody know how things have improved with these devices since 4.8, and which are showstoppers? The camera and audio also appeared to have limited or no support, but I dont care about those. Thanks for any input paulm Definitely use a 4.9-current CD. New things are supported all the time, so go with the best version of OpenBSD. I get hornswoggled all too often in helping folks with their laptops, and I'm really saddened with the quality of the hardware, overall. The Lenovo ThinkPads (NOT the other brands that Lenovo has) have consistently been the best laptops out there, in terms of quality, serviceability, and life-span. The $400 laptop can be considered a throwaway unit. Few of the bargin laptops friends bought in 2009 are working today. If you look at the Lenovo site you'll see the T series. A T420i is $799 with a 1 year warranty. Thats more money than a $499 laptop, but it is likely to work several years from now. --STeve Andre' I second the Thinkpads. I recently upgraded from a T22 to a T61 (Core2 Duo, 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM). It cost me about 400 USD for the like-new laptop, docking station, and a brand new 8GB SSD (all on Ebay). All I had to do was replace the CPU fan and install the SSD. I run amd64 -current. All the relevant hardware works very well. I run cwm(1), xterm, tmux, Gimp, Chromium, Firefox, Seamonkey-Mail. It's a very fast system, way more computer than I need and will last me many years, as my T22 did.
Re: laptop questions/comments
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:03:15 +1200 From: Paul M l...@no-tek.com To: OpenBSD general usage list misc@openbsd.org Subject: laptop questions/comments Message-ID: 04d87a5828d374d828bc3e1b091de...@no-tek.com Hi all, It's time for a new OpenBSD laptop, and I have a couple of questions. Note that I dont want to spend money on performance I dont need, but I do want to spend money on a decent quality machine. I just bought a HP G42-303DX (AMD Turion II processor): http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Laptop+/+AMD+Turion%26%23153%3B+II+Processor+/+14%22+Display+/+3GB+Memory+-+Biscotti/1623912.p?id=1218273846151skuId=1623912 The battery life is terrible, but OpenBSD 4.8 i386 runs fine on it (I haven't tried to burn disks or use webcam). So far it seems very solid and a bargain. Audio also works out of the box. I think HP was making a similar machine with 15.6 inch screen but I'm not sure if they are still available. frys.com was advertising them in print ads but then the website said out of stock. Brett.
laptop questions/comments
Hi all, It's time for a new OpenBSD laptop, and I have a couple of questions. Note that I dont want to spend money on performance I dont need, but I do want to spend money on a decent quality machine. First, finding quality machines in the backwoods where I live is really hard. The shops seem full of rubbish. Various retailers suggest either Toshiba or Asus. Does anybody have any comments on these brands in general? I'll admit to a psychological block against Toshiba, but I have no idea where it came from, it could be completely bogus. Second, One I've found which seems a good fit is the Toshiba Satellite Pro C650 (with the celeron cpu, not the i3). Anybody using one of these with OpenBSD? I stuck a 4.8 release CD in, and the dmesg indicated problems with these devices (sorry for the vagueness, I was scribbling down stuff in the store. I can get better info if it's required)- Intel GM45 Attansic something - 0x2060 - the 10/100 wired ethernet SMBus ehci1 timed out waiting for bios There was also a message at the end that suggested that wd1 was not available. Anybody know how things have improved with these devices since 4.8, and which are showstoppers? The camera and audio also appeared to have limited or no support, but I dont care about those. Thanks for any input paulm
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You should always pick up a current .iso snapshot and stick it in the device... Personally, I wouldn't buy a Celeron. I know there's tons of Celerons around with this enabled and that disabled but its performance is pitiful compared to a i3 or even a AMD Bobcat/APU. I would go for a AMD Bobcat design, decent CPU + good GPU. While a i3/i5/i7 is a good/excellent CPU + average to horrible GPU. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Paul M l...@no-tek.com wrote: Hi all, It's time for a new OpenBSD laptop, and I have a couple of questions. Note that I dont want to spend money on performance I dont need, but I do want to spend money on a decent quality machine. First, finding quality machines in the backwoods where I live is really hard. The shops seem full of rubbish. Various retailers suggest either Toshiba or Asus. Does anybody have any comments on these brands in general? I'll admit to a psychological block against Toshiba, but I have no idea where it came from, it could be completely bogus. Second, One I've found which seems a good fit is the Toshiba Satellite Pro C650 (with the celeron cpu, not the i3). Anybody using one of these with OpenBSD? I stuck a 4.8 release CD in, and the dmesg indicated problems with these devices (sorry for the vagueness, I was scribbling down stuff in the store. I can get better info if it's required)- Intel GM45 Attansic something - 0x2060 - the 10/100 wired ethernet SMBus ehci1 timed out waiting for bios There was also a message at the end that suggested that wd1 was not available. Anybody know how things have improved with these devices since 4.8, and which are showstoppers? The camera and audio also appeared to have limited or no support, but I dont care about those. Thanks for any input paulm
Re: laptop questions/comments
On 04/15/11 19:03, Paul M wrote: Hi all, It's time for a new OpenBSD laptop, and I have a couple of questions. Note that I dont want to spend money on performance I dont need, but I do want to spend money on a decent quality machine. First, finding quality machines in the backwoods where I live is really hard. The shops seem full of rubbish. Various retailers suggest either Toshiba or Asus. Does anybody have any comments on these brands in general? I'll admit to a psychological block against Toshiba, but I have no idea where it came from, it could be completely bogus. Second, One I've found which seems a good fit is the Toshiba Satellite Pro C650 (with the celeron cpu, not the i3). Anybody using one of these with OpenBSD? I stuck a 4.8 release CD in, and the dmesg indicated problems with these devices (sorry for the vagueness, I was scribbling down stuff in the store. I can get better info if it's required)- Intel GM45 Attansic something - 0x2060 - the 10/100 wired ethernet SMBus ehci1 timed out waiting for bios There was also a message at the end that suggested that wd1 was not available. Anybody know how things have improved with these devices since 4.8, and which are showstoppers? The camera and audio also appeared to have limited or no support, but I dont care about those. Thanks for any input paulm Definitely use a 4.9-current CD. New things are supported all the time, so go with the best version of OpenBSD. I get hornswoggled all too often in helping folks with their laptops, and I'm really saddened with the quality of the hardware, overall. The Lenovo ThinkPads (NOT the other brands that Lenovo has) have consistently been the best laptops out there, in terms of quality, serviceability, and life-span. The $400 laptop can be considered a throwaway unit. Few of the bargin laptops friends bought in 2009 are working today. If you look at the Lenovo site you'll see the T series. A T420i is $799 with a 1 year warranty. Thats more money than a $499 laptop, but it is likely to work several years from now. --STeve Andre'
Re: laptop questions/comments
hi all, I use successfully, from OpenBSD 4.7 to OpenBSD 4.8 on many Dell laptops : Dell Inspiron ( also the mini 10 inch screen model ) Dell Latitude = D620 CPU are intel core 2 and atom 2 cores or better at work we use about 5/6 laptops, all using BSD, working well for normal use, working, web, few games few graphical work my private laptop is Dell inspiron just like my work one, and also on OpenBSD 4.8 soon 4.9 upgrade.. Usually laptops between 2 years old to 4 years old should be good choice, for standard materials inside so easy to use with OpenBSD. I guess toshiba ibm classicals (satelite for toshiba thinkpad for IBM) should be good choise because they do not have exotic devices, but standard devices. From: Paul M l...@no-tek.com Sent: Sat Apr 16 01:03:15 CEST 2011 To: OpenBSD general usage list misc@openbsd.org Subject: laptop questions/comments Hi all, It's time for a new OpenBSD laptop, and I have a couple of questions. Note that I dont want to spend money on performance I dont need, but I do want to spend money on a decent quality machine. First, finding quality machines in the backwoods where I live is really hard. The shops seem full of rubbish. Various retailers suggest either Toshiba or Asus. Does anybody have any comments on these brands in general? I'll admit to a psychological block against Toshiba, but I have no idea where it came from, it could be completely bogus. Second, One I've found which seems a good fit is the Toshiba Satellite Pro C650 (with the celeron cpu, not the i3). Anybody using one of these with OpenBSD? I stuck a 4.8 release CD in, and the dmesg indicated problems with these devices (sorry for the vagueness, I was scribbling down stuff in the store. I can get better info if it's required)- Intel GM45 Attansic something - 0x2060 - the 10/100 wired ethernet SMBus ehci1 timed out waiting for bios There was also a message at the end that suggested that wd1 was not available. Anybody know how things have improved with these devices since 4.8, and which are showstoppers? The camera and audio also appeared to have limited or no support, but I dont care about those. Thanks for any input paulm Cordialement Francois Pussault 3701 - 8 rue Marcel Pagnol 31100 ToulouseB FranceB +33 6 17 230 820 B +33 5 34 365 269 fpussa...@contactoffice.fr
