Re: mailing list manager recommendation for smtpd?

2011-09-27 Thread Josh Grosse
I wrote:

Does anyone have a recommended replacement?  I have looked at
mail/mailman
and it seems generally MTA-agnostic from looking through the
documentation.

But it  too depends on Command Files in aliases.db.  I will use manual list
management, rather than automation.


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Re: mailing list manager recommendation for smtpd?

2011-09-27 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:45:00AM -0400, Josh Grosse wrote:
 I wrote:
 
 Does anyone have a recommended replacement?  I have looked at
 mail/mailman
 and it seems generally MTA-agnostic from looking through the
 documentation.
 
 But it  too depends on Command Files in aliases.db.  I will use manual list
 management, rather than automation.
 

What do you mean by Command Files ?

Gilles


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Re: mailing list manager recommendation for smtpd?

2011-09-27 Thread Josh Grosse
Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org wrote:

What do you mean by Command Files ?

Piping of the incoming message, as with smtpd.conf deliver to mda but at the
alias level:

alias: |/path/to/command argument...

See sendmail's aliases(5).

With majordomo, the : include: structure is also required. For mailman, it
looks like I'd only need six or seven different pipe aliases per mailing list,
without that requirement.
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Re: mailing list manager recommendation for smtpd?

2011-09-27 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 02:07:32PM -0400, Josh Grosse wrote:
 
 Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org wrote:
 
 What do you mean by Command Files ?
 
 Piping of the incoming message, as with smtpd.conf deliver to mda but at 
 the alias level:
 
 alias: |/path/to/command argument...
 
 See sendmail's aliases(5).
 
 With majordomo, the : include: structure is also required. For mailman, it 
 looks like I'd only need six or seven different pipe aliases per mailing 
 list, without that requirement.

Well, both |/path/to/command and :include:/filepath constructs are supported
and work in theory.

I added support for both and did basic testing, but I don't administer mailing
list and no one reported them being broken so you should just give it a try
and let me and eric@ know if it breaks.

Gilles

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Re: mailing list manager recommendation for smtpd?

2011-09-27 Thread Josh Grosse
Just so you know, this is not a critical requirement. I will NOT return to
sendmail. I love what you have been able to accomplish, Gilles, and will stay
with smtpd. I run a single small list; manual management is fine.

I was hoping someone had already been down this path ahead of me and had a
simple solution. I know... Postfix could be a circumvention, but I don't think
I need that large a hammer for this small nail.
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Re: mailing list manager recommendation for smtpd?

2011-09-27 Thread Josh Grosse
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 08:14:53PM +0200, Gilles Chehade wrote:

 Well, both |/path/to/command and :include:/filepath constructs are supported
 and work in theory.
 
 I added support for both and did basic testing, but I don't administer mailing
 list and no one reported them being broken so you should just give it a try
 and let me and eric@ know if it breaks.

Thanks Gilles.  I have sent you and Eric a problem report including an example
aliases file, a log from stepping through makemap.c in gdb, and a dmesg.



mailing list manager recommendation for smtpd?

2011-09-26 Thread Josh Grosse
I have made the switch to smtpd, and I am thrilled with its ease of use
and ease of management in comparison to sendmail.

I also run a small moderated mailing list, and am looking for a replacement
for mail/majordomo that will integrate with smtpd.  Majordomo requires both 
Commands and Include Files in aliases.db, neither of which I am able to 
deploy with /usr/libexec/smtpd/makemap running as newaliases.

Does anyone have a recommended replacement?  I have looked at mail/mailman
and it seems generally MTA-agnostic from looking through the documentation.  
I have also looked at mail/mlmmj and mail/sympa.  The latter two require alias 
database entries not yet supported by smtpd and its associated makemap.

Is anyone using mail/mailman or yet again another mailing list manager with
smptd?  If so, I would appreciate any comments you may have, including 
specific provisioning recommendations or caveats discovered.

(A light cluestick is all I'm after.)

Thanks!