Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-29 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
This article is really great, thanks a lot! Also, I already support that repair culture, not only for ecology or better savings, the need for GHz-booze is just marketing, my old P3 700MHz openbsd laptop still does quite a lot. It just comes to my mind what a guy I knew told me about the RD dept

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-26 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Actually I'm way more optimist about OEM motherboard manufacturers rather than PC companies. The weak spot will in fact be laptops and other portable equipment, as these are all proprietary design. Considering that laptop sales have overdone standard fixed PCs ones since years, the ecosystem,

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-26 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I'm way more optimist about OEM motherboard manufacturers rather than PC companies. The weak spot will in fact be laptops and other portable equipment, as these are all proprietary design. There's new article

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-26 Thread Rudolf Leitgeb
Am Montag, den 26.09.2011, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Paolo Aglialoro: Actually I'm way more optimist about OEM motherboard manufacturers rather than PC companies. The weak spot will in fact be laptops and other portable equipment, as these are all proprietary design. Considering that laptop sales

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-25 Thread Mike.
On 9/24/2011 at 6:57 PM Paolo Aglialoro wrote: |Unfortunately, just a tiny percentage of sold X86 boxes is no-OS, and also |dell has stopped selling linux PCs. |The last no-OS one I bought was an HP laptop (HP 360) with suse 11 |onboard. Drops within an ocean. |Unless EU Commission helps, it'll

microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-24 Thread Amit Kulkarni
http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html in the future how will we have access to OpenBSD if Microsoft get away with it? right now most of us buy Windows enabled PCs and either dual boot or wipe it out... thanks

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-24 Thread Marc Smith
This has been already explained in multiple articles, really. It looks like it's OEMs stuff. They decide whether they give the end user an option to disable secure boot or not. It's probobly the best to buy only No OS computers anyway. You can also support various open BIOS initiatives. Dnia

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-24 Thread Paren Thetic
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 08:36:21 -0500 Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html in the future how will we have access to OpenBSD if Microsoft get away with it? right now most of us buy Windows enabled PCs and either dual boot or wipe it out... thanks

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-24 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Unfortunately, just a tiny percentage of sold X86 boxes is no-OS, and also dell has stopped selling linux PCs. The last no-OS one I bought was an HP laptop (HP 360) with suse 11 onboard. Drops within an ocean. Unless EU Commission helps, it'll be a hell of a scenery On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at

Re: microsoft and UEFI boot

2011-09-24 Thread Marc Smith
Well, yes. You're right. Apparently only EU commission can help and let me tell you that: EU is really good with those kind of regulations. It usually cares for customer's privacy and fights monopoly of particular companies. Let's hope it would make next move. Anyway, there are [still] some