Re: network adapter order
Or you just take out your magic marker and print fxp on the card(s) and print numbers next to the PCI slots. hint ifconfig inet fxp0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 arp description --==[OnBoard]==-- On 8/1/05, Michiel van der Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is it possible to change the order in which the kernel detects and names network interfaces? I have a system which has one fxp onboard and one fxp as a PCI card. With the PCI card, the onboard NIC is named fxp1 and the PCI card fxp0. Can something be done to change the ordering? It's conceptually easier to tell people the onboard NIC is their internal network. Thanks, -- Michiel van der Kraats
network adapter order
Hi, Is it possible to change the order in which the kernel detects and names network interfaces? I have a system which has one fxp onboard and one fxp as a PCI card. With the PCI card, the onboard NIC is named fxp1 and the PCI card fxp0. Can something be done to change the ordering? It's conceptually easier to tell people the onboard NIC is their internal network. Thanks, -- Michiel van der Kraats
Re: network adapter order
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Michiel van der Kraats wrote: Hi, Is it possible to change the order in which the kernel detects and names network interfaces? I have a system which has one fxp onboard and one fxp as a PCI card. With the PCI card, the onboard NIC is named fxp1 and the PCI card fxp0. Can something be done to change the ordering? It's conceptually easier to tell people the onboard NIC is their internal network. If it's just an internal/external thing just switch the cables. -Otto
Re: network adapter order
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Holland Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:01 AM To: Michiel van der Kraats Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: network adapter order On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:12:08PM +0200, Michiel van der Kraats wrote: Hi, Is it possible to change the order in which the kernel detects and names network interfaces? I have a system which has one fxp onboard and one fxp as a PCI card. With the PCI card, the onboard NIC is named fxp1 and the PCI card fxp0. Can something be done to change the ordering? It's conceptually easier to tell people the onboard NIC is their internal network. what does the ordering have to do with which one is which? Simply alter your pf.conf rules. You probably want to use a macro to name the interfaces, anyway. So $EXT becomes fxp0...so what? Altering the numbering order of PCI cards would require a custom kernel, and that would be really, really bad in this case. (imagine booting off a GENERIC kernel by mistake, and ending up with your network config completely reversed!) Nick. Perhaps we could get some insight as to how this ordering happens from those who know. I've never had a problem with it changing on me, but it might be nice to know how the kernel decides, and what mistakes we might make that could cause it to happen. Just an attempt to turn a question into education.
Re: network adapter order
Rod.. Whitworth wrote: [snip] We chose to use 0 for outside 1 for internal and 2 for server. I cannot fool anybody into thinking that 2 looks like S, dammit! From the land down under: Australia. Do we look umop apisdn from up over? [snicker] try a mirror. But seriously folks, that looks like THE defitive rule. If there is just one interface, that one is to the outside.
Re: network adapter order
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:15:45AM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote: Perhaps we could get some insight as to how this ordering happens from those who know. I've never had a problem with it changing on me, but it might be nice to know how the kernel decides, and what mistakes we might make that could cause it to happen. Just an attempt to turn a question into education. IN THIS CASE... It goes by PCI bus number and then slot within that bus. Many computers have multiple PCI buses. For example, I have a Dell GX1 here, here's a snipping of the dmesg (and since I'm answering, not asking, I get to snip. you don't. :) fxp0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Intel 82557 rev 0x08, i82559: irq 10, address 00:02:b3:5e:a2:0d inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 fxp1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Intel 82557 rev 0x08, i82559: irq 9, address 00:02:b3:65:5a:78 inphy1 at fxp1 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 ppb1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 DEC 21152 PCI-PCI rev 0x03 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 fxp2 at pci2 dev 9 function 0 Intel 82557 rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:02:b3:5d:86:23 inphy2 at fxp2 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 fxp3 at pci2 dev 10 function 0 Intel 82557 rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:02:b3:5d:40:94 inphy3 at fxp3 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 fxp4 at pci2 dev 11 function 0 Intel 82557 rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:90:27:e5:3b:be inphy4 at fxp4 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 You see, the devices on the pci0 bus get numbered first (by slot), then the ones on pci2. In case you were wondering, pci1 in this machine was used only by the video chip. Next comes logical slots. In this machine, the physical to logical slot mapping is a little strange. In this machine, the slots are numbered like this: top 4(pci2) 3(pci2) 2(pci2) 0(pci0) 1(pci0) bottom Note the bizzare reversal of the 0 and 1. Obviously, Dell never figured on someone putting five NICs in this machine and caring which is which. It can get REALLY fun if your cards also have PCI bridges on them...then you get priges on top of bridges... I plugged five quad dc(4) cards into one of these things at one point, from memory, the numbering was something like this: 19 18 17 16 17 16 15 14 11 10 9 8 3 2 1 0 7 6 5 4 It took me a while to find dc0, I can assure you (I did this config before I did the five fxp setup, so I didn't know about the odd slot ordering at the time). This system is pretty normal for PCI NICs. ISA NICs follow different rules, dependent upon the individual driver. we(4), ne(4) and others do it by hardware resource settings, ep(4) does it (sorta) by MAC address (but not entirely by MAC). Nick.
Re: network adapter order
Is it possible to change the order in which the kernel detects and names network interfaces? I have a system which has one fxp onboard and one fxp as a PCI card. With the PCI card, the onboard NIC is named fxp1 and the PCI card fxp0. Can something be done to change the ordering? It's conceptually easier to tell people the onboard NIC is their internal network. Your machine has it's pci busses numbered in a confusion way. So no.
