Re: ntpd not synching

2007-03-29 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi,
 
 On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:49:16PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
  
  It looks like your clock drifts more that ntpd can compensate. Please
  share some details on your setup, like the dmesg.  Also, if you remove
  the drift file, you must reboot, since otherwise the existing
  frequency compensations stays in effect. 
 
 ok, i cleared the drift-file and rebooted. as near as i can
 figure (i had to boot multiple times, and unclean at that) this
 is what happend slightly bfore/during/after the last boot (the times 
 are so screwed i can't really make it out).

Yep, this configrms it. Your clock is drifting so much that ntpd can't
keep up. I'm afraid there's not a lot I can do about that.

-Otto

 
 Mar 28 20:12:46  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 950.304366s
 Mar 28 20:17:11  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 954.223055s
 Mar 28 22:53:00  ntpd[18691]: ntp engine ready
 Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[14539]: set local clock to Wed Mar 28 20:49:13 CEST 
 2007 (offset -7427.749161s)
 Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 213.246.63.72: negative delay 
 -7427.686509s, next query 3068s
 Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 62.220.226.2: negative delay 
 -7427.684053s, next query 3199s
 Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 149.156.70.5: negative delay 
 -7427.676747s, next query 3149s
 Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 193.11.184.180: negative delay 
 -7427.676303s, next query 3136s
 Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 194.215.7.39: not synced, next query 
 3052s
 Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 128.241.238.31: negative delay 
 -7427.633371s, next query 3083s
 Mar 28 20:49:13  savecore: no core dump
 Mar 28 20:58:54  ntpd[3522]: peer 80.240.210.253 now valid
 [peers snipped]
 Mar 28 20:59:57  ntpd[31863]: adjusting local clock by 2.284285s
 Mar 28 21:02:37  ntpd[18773]: ntp engine ready
 Mar 28 21:02:37  ntpd[18773]: reply from 194.215.7.39: not synced, next query 
 3110s
 Mar 28 21:02:37  savecore: no core dump
 Mar 28 21:02:52  ntpd[18773]: peer 217.150.242.8 now valid
 Mar 28 21:02:59  ntpd[18773]: peer 213.246.63.72 now valid
 Mar 28 21:02:59  ntpd[18773]: peer 193.11.184.180 now valid
 Mar 28 21:02:59  ntpd[18773]: peer 128.241.238.31 now valid
 Mar 28 21:03:00  ntpd[18773]: peer 149.156.70.5 now valid
 Mar 28 21:03:03  ntpd[18773]: peer 62.220.226.2 now valid
 Mar 28 21:03:57  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 6.573991s
 Mar 28 21:06:04  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 3.905197s
 Mar 28 21:08:37  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 8.475628s
 Mar 28 21:08:37  ntpd[18773]: clock is now synced
 Mar 28 21:10:49  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 8.951453s
 Mar 28 21:10:49  ntpd[18773]: clock is now unsynced
 Mar 28 21:15:06  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 12.813542s
 Mar 28 21:15:06  ntpd[18773]: clock is now synced
 Mar 28 21:19:15  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 15.447946s
 Mar 28 21:19:15  ntpd[18773]: clock is now unsynced
 Mar 28 21:23:05  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 15.624800s
 Mar 28 21:23:10  ntpd[18773]: peer 213.246.63.72 now invalid
 Mar 28 21:25:45  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 16.648412s
 Mar 28 21:27:49  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 20.718507s
 Mar 28 21:31:04  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 16.498430s
 Mar 28 21:33:13  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 20.223130s
 Mar 28 21:35:57  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 20.095667s
 
 as i write this, the local clock is already 29 seconds behind
 what 'rdate -p pool.ntp.org' reports.
 
 dmesg :
 
 OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1107: Sat Sep 16 19:15:58 MDT 2006
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 cpu0: VIA Esther processor 1500MHz (CentaurHauls 686-class) 1.51 GHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3
 cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
 real mem  = 468152320 (457180K)
 avail mem = 418967552 (409148K)
 using 4256 buffers containing 23511040 bytes (22960K) of memory
 mainbus0 (root)
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(d9) BIOS, date 09/15/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfa960, 
 SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf (33 entries)
 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
 apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xcce4
 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfcc20/192 (10 entries)
 pcibios0: bad IRQ table checksum
 pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 10 Interrupt Routing table entries
 pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 15
 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT8237 ISA rev 0x00)
 pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfc00 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xd2000/0x5000!
 cpu0 at mainbus0
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
 pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
 pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 

Re: ntpd not synching

2007-03-29 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:13:56AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hi,
  
  On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:49:16PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
   
   It looks like your clock drifts more that ntpd can compensate. Please
   share some details on your setup, like the dmesg.  Also, if you remove
   the drift file, you must reboot, since otherwise the existing
   frequency compensations stays in effect. 
  
  ok, i cleared the drift-file and rebooted. as near as i can
  figure (i had to boot multiple times, and unclean at that) this
  is what happend slightly bfore/during/after the last boot (the times 
  are so screwed i can't really make it out).
 
 Yep, this configrms it. Your clock is drifting so much that ntpd can't
 keep up. I'm afraid there's not a lot I can do about that.

Unless I'm very confused, though, repeated use of something like
rdate(8) will work, or, rather, 'work'...

Joachim



Re: ntpd not synching

2007-03-28 Thread peter
hi,

On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:49:16PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 
 It looks like your clock drifts more that ntpd can compensate. Please
 share some details on your setup, like the dmesg.  Also, if you remove
 the drift file, you must reboot, since otherwise the existing
 frequency compensations stays in effect. 

ok, i cleared the drift-file and rebooted. as near as i can
figure (i had to boot multiple times, and unclean at that) this
is what happend slightly bfore/during/after the last boot (the times 
are so screwed i can't really make it out).

Mar 28 20:12:46  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 950.304366s
Mar 28 20:17:11  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 954.223055s
Mar 28 22:53:00  ntpd[18691]: ntp engine ready
Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[14539]: set local clock to Wed Mar 28 20:49:13 CEST 2007 
(offset -7427.749161s)
Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 213.246.63.72: negative delay 
-7427.686509s, next query 3068s
Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 62.220.226.2: negative delay 
-7427.684053s, next query 3199s
Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 149.156.70.5: negative delay 
-7427.676747s, next query 3149s
Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 193.11.184.180: negative delay 
-7427.676303s, next query 3136s
Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 194.215.7.39: not synced, next query 
3052s
Mar 28 20:49:13  ntpd[18691]: reply from 128.241.238.31: negative delay 
-7427.633371s, next query 3083s
Mar 28 20:49:13  savecore: no core dump
Mar 28 20:58:54  ntpd[3522]: peer 80.240.210.253 now valid
[peers snipped]
Mar 28 20:59:57  ntpd[31863]: adjusting local clock by 2.284285s
Mar 28 21:02:37  ntpd[18773]: ntp engine ready
Mar 28 21:02:37  ntpd[18773]: reply from 194.215.7.39: not synced, next query 
3110s
Mar 28 21:02:37  savecore: no core dump
Mar 28 21:02:52  ntpd[18773]: peer 217.150.242.8 now valid
Mar 28 21:02:59  ntpd[18773]: peer 213.246.63.72 now valid
Mar 28 21:02:59  ntpd[18773]: peer 193.11.184.180 now valid
Mar 28 21:02:59  ntpd[18773]: peer 128.241.238.31 now valid
Mar 28 21:03:00  ntpd[18773]: peer 149.156.70.5 now valid
Mar 28 21:03:03  ntpd[18773]: peer 62.220.226.2 now valid
Mar 28 21:03:57  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 6.573991s
Mar 28 21:06:04  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 3.905197s
Mar 28 21:08:37  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 8.475628s
Mar 28 21:08:37  ntpd[18773]: clock is now synced
Mar 28 21:10:49  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 8.951453s
Mar 28 21:10:49  ntpd[18773]: clock is now unsynced
Mar 28 21:15:06  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 12.813542s
Mar 28 21:15:06  ntpd[18773]: clock is now synced
Mar 28 21:19:15  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 15.447946s
Mar 28 21:19:15  ntpd[18773]: clock is now unsynced
Mar 28 21:23:05  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 15.624800s
Mar 28 21:23:10  ntpd[18773]: peer 213.246.63.72 now invalid
Mar 28 21:25:45  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 16.648412s
Mar 28 21:27:49  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 20.718507s
Mar 28 21:31:04  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 16.498430s
Mar 28 21:33:13  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 20.223130s
Mar 28 21:35:57  ntpd[2354]: adjusting local clock by 20.095667s

as i write this, the local clock is already 29 seconds behind
what 'rdate -p pool.ntp.org' reports.

dmesg :

OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1107: Sat Sep 16 19:15:58 MDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: VIA Esther processor 1500MHz (CentaurHauls 686-class) 1.51 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3
cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
real mem  = 468152320 (457180K)
avail mem = 418967552 (409148K)
using 4256 buffers containing 23511040 bytes (22960K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(d9) BIOS, date 09/15/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfa960, 
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf (33 entries)
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xcce4
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfcc20/192 (10 entries)
pcibios0: bad IRQ table checksum
pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 10 Interrupt Routing table entries
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 15
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT8237 ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfc00 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xd2000/0x5000!
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 VIA PT890 Host rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8377 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 VIA S3 Unichrome PRO IGP rev 0x01: aperture at 

ntpd not synching

2007-03-27 Thread peter
hi,

i'm trying to keep my local clock synched through ntpd. i used to do
that with ntpdate, but since ntpd is available in a standard install
i thought i'd try that. i start ntpd at boot, with added -s to synch
the clock right away. however, after that it starts moving the clock 
backwards. restarting ntpd just makes it repeat the process :

[old ntpd, started at boot]
Mar 27 08:46:58  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 9642.320276s
Mar 27 08:49:06  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 2143.405987s
Mar 27 08:50:07  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 2142.248606s
Mar 27 08:51:42  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 9644.027785s
Mar 27 08:54:45  ntpd[1871]: ntp_dispatch_imsg in ntp engine: pipe closed
Mar 27 08:54:45  ntpd[1871]: ntp engine exiting
[restart]
Mar 27 08:55:02  ntpd[2426]: ntp engine ready
Mar 27 11:35:52  ntpd[16439]: set local clock to Tue Mar 27 11:35:52 CEST 2007 
(offset 9649.641093s)
Mar 27 11:36:09  ntpd[2426]: peer 194.146.227.112 now valid
[some more peers snipped]
Mar 27 11:37:33  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 1.288053s
Mar 27 11:40:10  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 6.464148s
Mar 27 11:40:10  ntpd[2426]: clock is now synced
Mar 27 11:44:23  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 10.656797s
Mar 27 11:46:36  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 13.004900s
Mar 27 11:46:36  ntpd[2426]: clock is now unsynced
Mar 27 11:49:17  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 11.683026s
Mar 27 11:53:39  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 15.193740s

(if left alone, this adjustment will increase perpetually).

timezone is set correctly :
$ ls -la /etc/localtime 
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  36 Dec  2 00:38 /etc/localtime - 
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Amsterdam

$ date
Tue Mar 27 12:25:30 CEST 2007

any ideas ? it _has_ managed to keep the clock synched once,
but after a reboot it went completely bonkers. i tried removing
the drift-file and restarting it as well, to no avail. i'm
running 4.0-release, and the provided ntpd.

-- 
CUL8R, Peter.



Re: ntpd not synching

2007-03-27 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi,
 
 i'm trying to keep my local clock synched through ntpd. i used to do
 that with ntpdate, but since ntpd is available in a standard install
 i thought i'd try that. i start ntpd at boot, with added -s to synch
 the clock right away. however, after that it starts moving the clock 
 backwards. restarting ntpd just makes it repeat the process :
 
 [old ntpd, started at boot]
 Mar 27 08:46:58  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 9642.320276s
 Mar 27 08:49:06  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 2143.405987s
 Mar 27 08:50:07  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 2142.248606s
 Mar 27 08:51:42  ntpd[20919]: adjusting local clock by 9644.027785s
 Mar 27 08:54:45  ntpd[1871]: ntp_dispatch_imsg in ntp engine: pipe closed
 Mar 27 08:54:45  ntpd[1871]: ntp engine exiting
 [restart]
 Mar 27 08:55:02  ntpd[2426]: ntp engine ready
 Mar 27 11:35:52  ntpd[16439]: set local clock to Tue Mar 27 11:35:52 CEST 
 2007 (offset 9649.641093s)
 Mar 27 11:36:09  ntpd[2426]: peer 194.146.227.112 now valid
 [some more peers snipped]
 Mar 27 11:37:33  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 1.288053s
 Mar 27 11:40:10  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 6.464148s
 Mar 27 11:40:10  ntpd[2426]: clock is now synced
 Mar 27 11:44:23  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 10.656797s
 Mar 27 11:46:36  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 13.004900s
 Mar 27 11:46:36  ntpd[2426]: clock is now unsynced
 Mar 27 11:49:17  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 11.683026s
 Mar 27 11:53:39  ntpd[6515]: adjusting local clock by 15.193740s
 
 (if left alone, this adjustment will increase perpetually).
 
 timezone is set correctly :
 $ ls -la /etc/localtime 
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  36 Dec  2 00:38 /etc/localtime - 
 /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Amsterdam
 
 $ date
 Tue Mar 27 12:25:30 CEST 2007
 
 any ideas ? it _has_ managed to keep the clock synched once,
 but after a reboot it went completely bonkers. i tried removing
 the drift-file and restarting it as well, to no avail. i'm
 running 4.0-release, and the provided ntpd.
 
 -- 
 CUL8R, Peter.

It looks like your clock drifts more that ntpd can compensate. Please
share some details on your setup, like the dmesg.  Also, if you remove
the drift file, you must reboot, since otherwise the existing
frequency compensations stays in effect. 

-Otto