Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-17 Thread pedro la peu
On Friday 15 December 2006 09:51, you wrote: So far for all you people who have complained about lousy ral(4) range or reception, only one of you has posted a dmesg (and even it was incomplete) and none of you have posted your interface config. Irrelevant. Don't let this interrupt your

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-17 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 02:02:00AM +, pedro la peu wrote: Don't let this interrupt your complain-fest, but if you want to move beyond whinging and start trying to figure out what the bad performing cards have in common then you know what you have to do... Don't let this interrupt your

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-17 Thread Damien Miller
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, pedro la peu wrote: On Friday 15 December 2006 09:51, you wrote: So far for all you people who have complained about lousy ral(4) range or reception, only one of you has posted a dmesg (and even it was incomplete) and none of you have posted your interface config.

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-17 Thread pedro la peu
On Monday 18 December 2006 03:05, Damien Miller wrote: Knowing the MAC and RF versions of the affected cards is irrelevant? Yes. I guess ral(4) that works fine over 20m through several double-brick walls is a figment of my imagination then... No. A sensitive ral radio would be.

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-15 Thread Sepherosa Ziehau
On 12/14/06, earx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ralink is the worst radio chipset in term of radio performance but the best documented for driver :( I probably missed something here, except for some Linux drivers, I didn't remember Ralink had released any formal documents about its MACs and RFs.

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-15 Thread Damien Miller
So far for all you people who have complained about lousy ral(4) range or reception, only one of you has posted a dmesg (and even it was incomplete) and none of you have posted your interface config. Don't let this interrupt your complain-fest, but if you want to move beyond whinging and start

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Damien, no problem, thanks for your help ! Thomas complete dmesg OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1107: Sat Sep 16 19:15:58 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 800MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class, 0KB L2 zcpu0:

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-15 Thread Henrik Hellerstedt
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 08:51:33PM +1100, Damien Miller wrote: So far for all you people who have complained about lousy ral(4) range or reception, only one of you has posted a dmesg (and even it was incomplete) and none of you have posted your interface config. Don't let this interrupt your

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-15 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 04:14:14PM +0800, Sepherosa Ziehau wrote: On 12/14/06, earx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ralink is the worst radio chipset in term of radio performance but the best documented for driver :( I probably missed something here, except for some Linux drivers, I didn't

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-15 Thread Sepherosa Ziehau
On 12/16/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 04:14:14PM +0800, Sepherosa Ziehau wrote: On 12/14/06, earx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ralink is the worst radio chipset in term of radio performance but the best documented for driver :( I probably missed something

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it seems nobody uses minipci ralink cards ... :-( On Tuesday 12 December 2006 13:27, Anis Kadri wrote: Same problem with minipci ral cards max distance: 5-8m. On 12/12/06, Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I have a Linksys card that uses ral and I can confirm

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/12/14 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems nobody uses minipci ralink cards ... :-( try different pigtails if possible. I've had very poor signal strength in a soekris with a couple of different pigtails with both ral(4) and ath(4) whereas the same cards in a thinkpad did work ok.

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread earx
Le Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:45:37 + Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a pris sa plume: On 2006/12/14 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems nobody uses minipci ralink cards ... :-( ralink is the worst radio chipset in term of radio performance but the best documented for driver :( ralink

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Bernd Schoeller
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:08:00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems nobody uses minipci ralink cards ... :-( I also have a ralink card (regular PCI used in a Soekris with OBSD 4.0), and I am experiencing similar problems - horribly low radio performace over short

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it's not a pigtail problem, as i wrote that a always used prism cards and it works. the resistor value of the pigtail is ok. On Thursday 14 December 2006 12:45, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2006/12/14 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems nobody uses minipci ralink cards ... :-( try

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Anton Karpov
I just found a Proxim Gold 8470-FC card on eBay for $60 w/ shipping. Is this a good deal? Is your card 8470-FC? Thanks for the info. Yeah, but mine is not FC but WD.

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Anton Karpov
2006/12/12, Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anton Karpov wrote: It's a known problem with ralink. Bad radio. That's what I was thinking. Hey, could you recommend a good range card? I have Proxim Orinoco Gold 8470, works fine for me. But it's fucking ath(4) . I suppose the best way is to

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Anton Karpov
It's a known problem with ralink. Bad radio.

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:12:49 +1100 (EST), Damien Miller wrote: On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Clint Pachl wrote: I have a similar problem in 3.9 with ral cards; very poor range. Linksys (ath) [ap] - Level One (ral) = 5-7 meters Linksys (ath) [ap] - Old 1MBit Intel (wi?) = +30 meters Level One (ral

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Henrik Hellerstedt
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 01:27:19PM +0100, Anis Kadri wrote: Same problem with minipci ral cards max distance: 5-8m. About the same here. 2-3m meters the signal strength is ok 3-6m its a good day if I can connect 6- no connection can be made what so ever The signal strength(if one can call

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Mathieu Sauve-Frankel
I have had similar experiences using ral in 802.11b mode. Forcing 802.11G mode seems to help alot. Could people in this thread please mention whether they are using ral in b or g mode ? -- Mathieu Sauve-Frankel

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread pedro la peu
http://www.netgate.com/info/miniPCI/2511MPPLUS/2511MP_PLUS_Spec.pdf Receive sensitivity: -89dBm to -91dBm. http://soekris.kd85.com/pdf/ralabg.pdf Receive sensitivity: -70dBm to -84dBm.

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-14 Thread Anis Kadri
I have experienced the same problems with both ath(4) and ral(4) (minipci cards). I tried to use different modes (B G) and different settings (channels, ..) and using an external antenna but the performance's still lossy :-/ for ral(4): g mode doesn't work very well for me (packet loss, ...) so

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-12 Thread Clint Pachl
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I have a Linksys card that uses ral and I can confirm this Sam Fourman Jr. On 12/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, i've tried today openbsd 4.0 with several cards: rt2561t - PC-620C rt2560f - WMIR-103G rt2560f - GN-WIKG with all cards i got

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-12 Thread Anis Kadri
Same problem with minipci ral cards max distance: 5-8m. On 12/12/06, Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I have a Linksys card that uses ral and I can confirm this Sam Fourman Jr. On 12/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, i've

openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi List, i've tried today openbsd 4.0 with several cards: rt2561t - PC-620C rt2560f - WMIR-103G rt2560f - GN-WIKG with all cards i got a connection (mediaopt ibss - adhoc) with a distance of some meters. but if i tried a distance of 150 meters with 2 yagi (12dbi) i got no connection :-(. i one

Re: openbsd 4.0 ralink problem low operation range

2006-12-09 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
I have a Linksys card that uses ral and I can confirm this Sam Fourman Jr. On 12/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, i've tried today openbsd 4.0 with several cards: rt2561t - PC-620C rt2560f - WMIR-103G rt2560f - GN-WIKG with all cards i got a connection (mediaopt