Re: Lavabit like encryption with OpenSMTPD

2015-02-09 Thread Seth
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:28:03 -0800, brettm wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:02:06 + skin...@britvault.co.uk (Craig Skinner) wrote: | | Neither can Goatmail, Snotmail, NSA, govt agencies, etc. | As far as we know, NSA etc cannot read other people's PGP encrypted mail. I think it is important

Re: Lavabit like encryption with OpenSMTPD

2015-02-09 Thread brettm
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:02:06 + skin...@britvault.co.uk (Craig Skinner) wrote: | | Neither can Goatmail, Snotmail, NSA, govt agencies, etc. | As far as we know, NSA etc cannot read other people's PGP encrypted mail. I think it is important to remember (and state clearly in these type of dis

Re: Lavabit like encryption with OpenSMTPD

2015-02-09 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 12:02:06PM +, Craig Skinner wrote: > On 2015-02-09 Mon 11:56 AM |, Gilles Chehade wrote: > > > > > > Because they are not an SMTP (*simple* mail transfer protocol) problem, > > > they are a MUA & user training issues. > > > > > > > Yes, unfortunately you can't always

Re: Lavabit like encryption with OpenSMTPD

2015-02-09 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2015-02-09 Mon 11:56 AM |, Gilles Chehade wrote: > > > > Because they are not an SMTP (*simple* mail transfer protocol) problem, > > they are a MUA & user training issues. > > > > Yes, unfortunately you can't always use PGP because not everyone does. > A user training issue, not a technical

Re: Lavabit like encryption with OpenSMTPD

2015-02-09 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 10:49:36AM +, Craig Skinner wrote: > On 2015-02-08 Sun 10:56 AM |, Gilles Chehade wrote: > > > > 1- you need the queue to be encrypted. > > 2- you need mails delivered to the users to be encrypted. > > The SENDER encrypts their message in their MUA, _before_ sending. >

Re: Lavabit like encryption with OpenSMTPD

2015-02-09 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2015-02-08 Sun 10:56 AM |, Gilles Chehade wrote: > > 1- you need the queue to be encrypted. > 2- you need mails delivered to the users to be encrypted. The SENDER encrypts their message in their MUA, _before_ sending. > 3- you need mails to be decrypted when a user retrieves them. The recipi