Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

2015-11-27 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
> On 27 November 2015 at 12:31:32, Ville Valkonen > wrote: > > Thanks for your good hints:) > > some laptop pc have this problem :< [ ... ] > manula is almost good. but, some same problem issues didn't share on. > mailing list is good means. but latest machine problems

The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread français
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining nonfree programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree firmware blobs. Nonfree firmware programs used with Linux, the kernel, are called “blobs”, and

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Peter Hessler
this has been discussed ad-nauseam, please search the archives. (ps: do not respond to this, we are not interested in having this discussion again) On 2015 Nov 27 (Fri) at 08:33:00 -0700 (-0700), fran??ais wrote: :The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: : :"FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Michael McConville
Drivers run on the CPU, firmware runs on the peripheral device (e.g. the network card or hard drive). BSDs reject driver blobs because they run with the same privilege and in the same address space as the rest of the kernel. Because of this, they can meddle with or corrupt the kernel. Before

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 11/27/15 16:33, français wrote: The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining nonfree programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree firmware blobs. The FSF should have access to people who

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread français
Theo de Raadt wrote >> The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: >> >> "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining >> nonfree >> programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include >> nonfree >> firmware blobs. > >> Nonfree firmware programs used with

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 11/27/15 17:32, français wrote: I wanted ask the following: The FSF say the true about *BSD when say that *BSD include instructions for obtaining nonfree programs in their ports system? Please start with http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#39 (the OpenBSD 3.9 theme song), and look at the

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

2015-11-27 Thread freeunix
On 27 November 2015 at 12:31:32, Ville Valkonen wrote: Thanks for your good hints:) some laptop pc have this problem :< into BIOS setup. disable wifi and any section. it'll be this problem has come:< Lenovo G50-80, Fujitsu LifeBook, and any Now. Just, I check up run

Re: Install snapshot failes

2015-11-27 Thread Michael McConville
Carsten Kunze wrote: > installing a todays amd64 snapshot with image install58.fs ends with > "installboot: No blocks to load". What can be the problem? There were some slightly unstable changes made to installboot yesterday. It'll probably be fixed quickly. I'd wait and install a newer snapshot

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread français
> The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: > > "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining > nonfree > programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree > firmware blobs. > Nonfree firmware programs used with Linux, the kernel, are called >

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
> The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: > > "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining nonfree > programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree > firmware blobs. > Nonfree firmware programs used with Linux, the kernel, are called >

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

2015-11-27 Thread Ville Valkonen
On 26 November 2015 at 15:26, wrote: > I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK) > "OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0" > > 1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0 > boot: It's fine. > 2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0 > boot: can't boot! > > anyone don't need boot

Re: random.seed question

2015-11-27 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2015-11-26 Thu 15:54 PM |, Paul de Weerd wrote: > > I'd recommend sticking something in rc.local or creating an @reboot > cronjob that updates the /etc/random.seed. May not be ideal (the > entropy may not be very strong - I don't know if there is much > difference between just after boot or

Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread Tati Chevron
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 10:59:53AM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver. Be aware that hostap mode is not particularly reliable, usable, or with good peformance at the moment. What does at the moment mean? I've not had chance to

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

2015-11-27 Thread Tati Chevron
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 02:31:32PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote: On 26 November 2015 at 15:26, wrote: I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK) "OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0" 1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0 boot: It's fine. 2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to

Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread lists
> > What usb are you using as > > the ones i tried a while back weren't much good though there have been > > changes to the drivers since so probably worth trying again? USB wireless devices are usually quite flaky at the miniUSB connector end (or need re-soldering, and cables malfunction over

Install snapshot failes

2015-11-27 Thread Carsten Kunze
Hello, installing a todays amd64 snapshot with image install58.fs ends with "installboot: No blocks to load". What can be the problem? Carsten

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Eric Furman
Pen and paper and inconspicuous drop spots. On Fri, Nov 27, 2015, at 10:33 AM, français wrote: > The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: > > "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining > nonfree > programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include >

Macbook Pro 11,1 - dmesg

2015-11-27 Thread Bryan C. Everly
I have it up and running. It runs pretty hot and in Gnome, the settings app crashes before it can load (as does the power management app). Guessing that the Apple SMC voodoo is probably not supported. Here's my dmesg: OpenBSD 5.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #1663: Wed Nov 25 13:59:58 MST 2015

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread David Coppa
Il 27/nov/2015 21:43, "bofh" ha scritto: > > Do you understand your question has been answered over and over again, and > is not relevant here? > > Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD? > Because he's a troll. Stop feeding him, please.

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 27-11-2015 18:35, bofh escreveu: > Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD? Troll Detected. Troll Fed. End of Thread.

Re: MacbookPro 11,1

2015-11-27 Thread Bryan C. Everly
Hi guys, I got a rough cut of my how-to up on my blog. I'd appreciate any feedback / suggestions: http://functionallyparanoid.com/2015/11/27/hidpi/ Thanks, Bryan On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 09:00:48AM +0100,

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Eduardo Meyer
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 6:35 PM, bofh wrote: > Do you understand your question has been answered over and over again, and > is not relevant here? > > Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD? > My guess is, he has a Nero syndrom and is just trying to light a

Re: Install snapshot failes

2015-11-27 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 09:22:53PM +0100, Carsten Kunze wrote: > Only install58.fs itself did boot so there is only the dmesg if the standard > installer image. That doesn't use softraid. > > As suggested I wait for the next snapshot. If the issue with installboot is > still there I'll send a

Request for a package & a feature

2015-11-27 Thread Loïc BLOT
Hello @misc this evening i would thanks all OpenBSD team for their great OS for Security & Networking. I'm using OpenBSD as a router at home on my Orange FTTH link and it works great. As an improvement i would request developpers/ports maintainer three features: 1. On every OpenBSD i need to

athn0: device timeout

2015-11-27 Thread bluesun08
Hi, i have a TP-Link TL-WN722N Wlan-Stick. dmesg says: athn0: AR9271 rev 1 (1T1R), ROM rev 13, address c4:e9:84:dc:44:ba But after booting i get the following error message and the stick don't work any more: athn0: device timeout What could be the problem here? -- View this message in

Re: Install snapshot failes

2015-11-27 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 03:05:07PM +0100, Carsten Kunze wrote: > Hello, > > installing a todays amd64 snapshot with image install58.fs ends with > "installboot: No blocks to load". What can be the problem? > > Carsten > Carsten, a dmesg please, *every time* you report an issue. We need to

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread bofh
Do you understand your question has been answered over and over again, and is not relevant here? Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD?

Re: Install snapshot failes

2015-11-27 Thread Carsten Kunze
Hi Stefan, > Carsten, a dmesg please, *every time* you report an issue. > We need to know how your system is set up and dmesg output will > usually tell us what we need to know. > > In this particular case I would like to know if you're booting off > softraid or not. A dmesg would have told me.

Re: Request for a package & a feature

2015-11-27 Thread Michael McConville
Loïc BLOT wrote: > 3. OpenBSD doesn't have a DHCPv6/PD client and It's commonly used by > operators. Also, dibbler is not available in ports, whereas it works > perfect if you add a little portability patch to fix some paths > /var/lib => /var/db . Is this possible to import dibbler in ports tree

Re: startx fail on Lenovo G50-80 amd64

2015-11-27 Thread Doug Hogan
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 09:47:23AM +, freeu...@ruggedinbox.com wrote: > I installed OpenBSD 5.8 on USB flash memory. It's fine:) > Then Lenovo G50-80 could booting. but, startx fail and xdm was fail. I would focus on startx. > 1.background is blank(black) screen, mouse icon(X and arrow)

Re: OpenBSD as a pentester PC?

2015-11-27 Thread Mohammad BadieZadegan
Thanks so much Bryan, Maybe the important tools for every pentesters are: 1. Metasploit 2. Fuzzers (ex. Spike, Sulley,..) You can download Spike fuzzer source at https://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/SPIKE2.9.tgz Thanks alot, Regards. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Bryan Everly

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

2015-11-27 Thread Ville Valkonen
gmail didn't show any attachment. On Nov 27, 2015 3:20 PM, "Tati Chevron" wrote: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 02:31:32PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote: > >> On 26 November 2015 at 15:26, wrote: >> >> I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK) >>> "OpenBSD 5.8

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

2015-11-27 Thread Tati Chevron
Didn't you read the attached dmesg? On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 04:44:11PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote: gmail didn't show any attachment. That's funny, I didn't receive it either. It's almost as if there wasn't a dmesg attached, isn't it? -- Tati Chevron Perl and FORTRAN specialist. SWABSIT

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

2015-11-27 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
See http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html *The only mailing list that allows attachments is the ports list, they will be removed from messages on the other mailing lists.* > gmail didn't show any attachment. > On Nov 27, 2015 3:20 PM, "Tati Chevron" wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 27,

Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> >I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver. > > Be aware that hostap mode is not particularly reliable, usable, or with > good peformance at the moment. What does at the moment mean? I've only just upgraded to 5.8 and I did notice whatsapp not being quite so snappy

startx fail on Lenovo G50-80 amd64

2015-11-27 Thread freeunix
I installed OpenBSD 5.8 on USB flash memory. It's fine:) Then Lenovo G50-80 could booting. but, startx fail and xdm was fail. 1.background is blank(black) screen, mouse icon(X and arrow) couldn't move. 2.XDM: put username and password on keyborad. can login. 3.X will draw window manager's

Re: Install from snapshot unable boot

2015-11-27 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 08:58:33AM +0100, Rolf Sommerhalder wrote: > The current snapshot fails to install from .iso at the very last step > at writing the boot info to disk on VirtualBox. > > http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/BUILDINFO > Build date: 1448569476 - Thu Nov 26

Install from snapshot unable boot

2015-11-27 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
The current snapshot fails to install from .iso at the very last step at writing the boot info to disk on VirtualBox. http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/BUILDINFO Build date: 1448569476 - Thu Nov 26 20:24:36 UTC 2015 Using "the same procedure", install from an older i386

Re: Install from snapshot unable boot

2015-11-27 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > Yeah, that's because of pledge(2): > installboot(19095): syscall 54 "ioctl" Thank for your confirmation. I did not spot the error message above, but saw a commit from Theo last night related to installboot. So I

Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread Alexander Salmin
On 2015-11-27 08:48, Tati Chevron wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:08:37AM +0100, Alexander Salmin wrote: I want OpenBSD in hostap mode with PCI or PCIe ath / athn driver. Be aware that hostap mode is not particularly reliable, usable, or with good peformance at the moment. That's OK, my

Re: Install from snapshot unable boot

2015-11-27 Thread Theo Buehler
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 09:12:11AM +0100, Rolf Sommerhalder wrote: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Antoine Jacoutot > wrote: > > Yeah, that's because of pledge(2): > > installboot(19095): syscall 54 "ioctl" > > Thank for your confirmation. I did not spot the error