Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-02 Thread Darrin Chandler

Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote:



Don't forget the rest of the story:

http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20051024113247pid=27mode=ex
panded

DS

 

Right on. I blogged this a week or so ago 
(http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2005/10/25/1310/). Damn 
sensationalist media types.


--
Darrin Chandler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.stilyagin.com/



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread beebum

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob DeBolt wrote:


Greets

I certainly found it worth a read.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0


Bob D


This was already posted a week or two ago.

--
Terry



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Jeffrey Lim
On 11/1/05, Bob DeBolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greets

 I certainly found it worth a read.

 http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0


quote:
My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
ask! They will thank you later, he said.

hmm!! interesting... :)

one question though - is this the same Mark Uemura from www.openbsd-support.com?

thanks for pointing out the article!!

-jf



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread beebum

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Greg Thomas wrote:


On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob DeBolt wrote:


Greets

I certainly found it worth a read.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0


Bob D


This was already posted a week or two ago.


On Slashdot and other places but as far as I can see Bob was the first to
post it on misc.
Greg


My bad. I saw it on openbsd-newbies. Sorry about that Bob.

--
Terry



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread marrandy
On Tuesday 01 November 2005 11:31, you wrote:
 On 11/1/05, Bob DeBolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Greets
 
  I certainly found it worth a read.
 
  http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0

 quote:
 My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
 ask! They will thank you later, he said.

 hmm!! interesting... :)

 one question though - is this the same Mark Uemura from
 www.openbsd-support.com?

 thanks for pointing out the article!!

 -jf


what is the via based box they are using here

http://www.openbsd-support.com/jp/en/htm/mgp/tokyopc05/mgp5.html



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Stuart Henderson

--On 01 November 2005 13:18 -0500, marrandy wrote:


http://www.openbsd-support.com/jp/en/htm/mgp/tokyopc05/mgp5.html


looks like an le-564.



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Greg Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Greg Thomas wrote:
 
   On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob DeBolt wrote:
  
   Greets
  
   I certainly found it worth a read.
  
   
 http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0
  
  
   Bob D
  
   This was already posted a week or two ago.
  
   On Slashdot and other places but as far as I can see Bob 
 was the first
  to
   post it on misc.
   Greg
 
  My bad. I saw it on openbsd-newbies. Sorry about that Bob.
 
  Anyway, it's a damn cool article. I keep slipping OpenBSD in 
 at work but I
 haven't had a chance to initiate a sea change. We've got 
 several firewall
 projects at work where OpenBSD and CARP would save us big 
 bucks but our
 networking department is just too close-minded.

Don't forget the rest of the story:

http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20051024113247pid=27mode=ex
panded

DS



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Ste Jones
another article worth a mention???

Hard-as-nails OpenBSD releases v3.8
http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=680



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Greg Thomas
On 11/1/05, Spruell, Darren-Perot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Don't forget the rest of the story:



http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20051024113247pid=27mode=ex
 panded



Awesome. Thanks for pointing us to the follow up. Working in a similar
environment to Mark I kind of assumed many of the things he clarified.

Greg



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread pauljgreene
Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that they might 
find themselves unemployed if they practice such a philosophy at most companies.

PG



 
  quote:
  My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
  ask! They will thank you later, he said.
 
 Yeah, an interesting quote, all right. It's obvious that his corporate
 culture is very different from the one where i work. I did exactly that
 for a few years (not exclusively with OpenBSD, but with a mixture of
 what i consider good operating systems). I saved the company money and
 set up a stable, secure infrastructure. They found out and told me to
 replace all of it with new hardware and a single standardized
 operating system. They'll thank You later? Not a chance.
 
   -



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
Ah, an American speaks.

 Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that
 they might find themselves unemployed if they practice such a
 philosophy at most companies.

 
 PG
 
 
 
  
   quote:
   My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
   ask! They will thank you later, he said.
  
  Yeah, an interesting quote, all right. It's obvious that his corporate
  culture is very different from the one where i work. I did exactly that
  for a few years (not exclusively with OpenBSD, but with a mixture of
  what i consider good operating systems). I saved the company money and
  set up a stable, secure infrastructure. They found out and told me to
  replace all of it with new hardware and a single standardized
  operating system. They'll thank You later? Not a chance.
  
  -



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Siju George
On 11/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that they might 
 find themselves unemployed if they practice such a philosophy at most 
 companies.


maybe, but sometimes its better that way. You could find a more
sensible employer who would allow you to do the right things the right
way when it obviously benefits the company :-)

kind regards

Siju



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Jason Houx
An American Speaks here:

I work for a ISP *Routing/Switching/MPLS/Multicast/SS7/IP Video/VoIP*

I managed to get my eye balls on OpenBSD about 5 years ago now.  After
spending about 8 months using Frankenstein hardware I finally got my Boss
to let me start using OpenBSD firewalls in the network.  Now we have a
embedded system running on CF making the company all kinds of money.  I
also am using bgpd as a route reflector and testing ospfd in my lab of
Cisco gear.  I'm really looking forward to also seeing a PIM DM/SM capable
router in the future running OpenBSD  ;-)

Put OpenBSD anywhere you can and play with it.  It will prove itself even
in the Trashiest Windows Infested American Enterprise.

Jason Houx

--  Mirco$oft Gives you Windows || Unix Gives you a Home --


 Ah, an American speaks.

 Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that
 they might find themselves unemployed if they practice such a
 philosophy at most companies.


 PG



 
   quote:
   My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it -
 don't
   ask! They will thank you later, he said.
 
  Yeah, an interesting quote, all right. It's obvious that his corporate
  culture is very different from the one where i work. I did exactly
 that
  for a few years (not exclusively with OpenBSD, but with a mixture of
  what i consider good operating systems). I saved the company money and
  set up a stable, secure infrastructure. They found out and told me to
  replace all of it with new hardware and a single standardized
  operating system. They'll thank You later? Not a chance.
 
 -



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Put OpenBSD anywhere you can and play with it.  It will prove itself even
 in the Trashiest Windows Infested American Enterprise.

Yea, they be see-through brothels.

Windows will now close your curtains.