Re: ARM64:s finally on the market, and flooding it. OpenBSD support?

2016-09-24 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2016 Sep 24 (Sat) at 06:55:40 + (+), Ruslanas G??ibovskis wrote:
:Hi team, maybe it would be a great thing if you would be able to create a
:list of hw developpers would be interested to develop. so any sysadmin
:would know what is needed for openbsd devs and send out hw to dev team.
:

http://www.openbsd.org/want.html


:In such list i would like to see model, web to buy and a price.
:
:Thank you, sorry for spam ;]
:
:On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 22:07 Chris Cappuccio,  wrote:
:
:> Tinker [ti...@openmailbox.org] wrote:
:> > The market is finally being flooded with ARM64:s. And some of them are
:> > inexpensive.
:> >
:> > I guess AllWinner A64/H64 will be the most ubiquitous one as the chip
:> > is/soon will be something like 5 USD.
:>
:> The Allwinner 64-bit parts are supported under 32-bit mode on armv7.
:>
:> Chris
:>
:> --
:
:Ruslanas G??ibovskis
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Re: ARM64:s finally on the market, and flooding it. OpenBSD support?

2016-09-23 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
Hi team, maybe it would be a great thing if you would be able to create a
list of hw developpers would be interested to develop. so any sysadmin
would know what is needed for openbsd devs and send out hw to dev team.

In such list i would like to see model, web to buy and a price.

Thank you, sorry for spam ;]

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 22:07 Chris Cappuccio,  wrote:

> Tinker [ti...@openmailbox.org] wrote:
> > The market is finally being flooded with ARM64:s. And some of them are
> > inexpensive.
> >
> > I guess AllWinner A64/H64 will be the most ubiquitous one as the chip
> > is/soon will be something like 5 USD.
>
> The Allwinner 64-bit parts are supported under 32-bit mode on armv7.
>
> Chris
>
> --

Ruslanas Gžibovskis
+370 6030 7030
RHCE: 130-192-255



Re: ARM64:s finally on the market, and flooding it. OpenBSD support?

2016-09-22 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Tinker [ti...@openmailbox.org] wrote:
> The market is finally being flooded with ARM64:s. And some of them are
> inexpensive.
> 
> I guess AllWinner A64/H64 will be the most ubiquitous one as the chip
> is/soon will be something like 5 USD.

The Allwinner 64-bit parts are supported under 32-bit mode on armv7.

Chris



Re: ARM64:s finally on the market, and flooding it. OpenBSD support?

2016-09-22 Thread Karel Gardas
Tinker,

do not touch el-cheapo undocumented SoCs/boards, IMHO this would be
completely lost time. If you'd like to hack or buy hardware, better do
with board/SoC which is/are fully documented. And no, datasheets are
usually not good enough nor an advice to look into Linux sources...To
make it completely clear, try to get some documentation for SoC you've
listed, I would bet you will fail miserably. I've tried that in the
past and all your choices were no go. In fact the only friendly vendor
with full SoC/board developer/reference guide was Freescale/NXP of
that time. Second was NVidia with their Tegra family, but this is
again no-go due to missing GPU docs anyway...

Good luck!

And by the way, if you'd like to donate hardware, make that a bit
meaningful by offering for example ThunderX or similar kind of machine
or at least those fully documented Freescale/NXP boards which are good
enough as routers/gateways. I guess such offer would be tempting even
to OpenBSD devs and will not be thrown into the thrash easily. :-)

And if you'd like to hack on those, post your patch(es) to tech@ --
for start I guess you may get some idea from bitrig's drahn_arm64
branch and/or from FreeBSD's source tree. Generally speaking I would
guess you will need to start with in-tree LLVM and make that running
for you...

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Martin Schröder  wrote:
> 2016-09-22 13:51 GMT+02:00 Tinker :
>> What about running OpenBSD on these, do you have any idea when this should
>> be possible?
>
> https://www.openbsd.org/armv7.html
> "A mailing list for ARM-based ports is available at a...@openbsd.org."
>
> The devs are looking forward to getting the boards you are sending them.
>
> Best
>Martin



Re: ARM64:s finally on the market, and flooding it. OpenBSD support?

2016-09-22 Thread Martin Schröder
2016-09-22 13:51 GMT+02:00 Tinker :
> What about running OpenBSD on these, do you have any idea when this should
> be possible?

https://www.openbsd.org/armv7.html
"A mailing list for ARM-based ports is available at a...@openbsd.org."

The devs are looking forward to getting the boards you are sending them.

Best
   Martin