Re: Best Mail Archive
Don't reinvent wheel. Use what do you like. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:53 PM, trustlevel-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I noticed the mailing list archives seem to have different levels of content or maybe search mechanism (more found in gmane than monkey.org). What do people think is the best one, the danger being that one could possibly get overloaded, if mentioned here. KeV -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
Re: Best Mail Archive
Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching.
Re: Best Mail Archive
2010/3/4 nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. Do you realize how painful it is to answer the same question over and over ?
Re: Best Mail Archive
It's simple if you want to know something about OpenBSD. Here is list : 1) Read FAQ 2) Read man if you can't find what you want (which is not possible, but some info is maybe too much technical) then : 3) Mail list archive - I use marc.info 4) IRC 5) Internet On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:43 PM, nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com wrote: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
Re: Best Mail Archive
On 3/4/2010 7:43 AM, nixlists wrote: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. You could start your own archive. I have the list e-mails all the way back to Jan 1, 2006. I had them back to 2003, but lost that when I lost a portable hard drive. They are mostly text, and thunderbird or *insert favorite mail client here* should have the ability to set rules and folders... I use Gmail when not at work. Failing that, I use MARC...
Re: Best Mail Archive
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:56:00AM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: 2010/3/4 nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. Do you realize how painful it is to answer the same question over and over ? Of course not! He can't find that thread!!!
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mailing.openbsd.tech is on Google groups, I don't see mailing.openbsd.misc. Searching on Google groups works quite well, would be nice to see this list there.
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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:43 AM, nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com wrote: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. Half the questions on this list could be answered if people went to marc (http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscr=1b=201003w=2) and hit / or ctrl-F and typed in their keyword. No searching required. When people say search the archives, they really mean browse the list from last week.
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Odd. I search/browse a few months back into archive at least, and not because someone tells me to do it, and I still don't find answers sometimes (and searching still sucks, but ignore my whining).
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Bryan wrote: On 3/4/2010 7:43 AM, nixlists wrote: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. You could start your own archive. I have the list e-mails all the way back to Jan 1, 2006. I had them back to 2003, but lost that when I lost a portable hard drive. They are mostly text, and thunderbird or *insert favorite mail client here* should have the ability to set rules and folders... I use Gmail when not at work. Failing that, I use MARC... Having contributed to MARC I think it's a pretty good site. Hank has also added lists, as in the PCC lists, when I requested. diana
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Having contributed to MARC I think it's a pretty good site. Hank has also added lists, as in the PCC lists, when I requested. I didn't say MARC is a bad site.
Re: Best Mail Archive
But has a point. Mail archives are dead as an interface. Google knows all. We should be asking 'Did you ask Google?' rather than 'Did you search the mail archives.' I'm sure many people have to go Google 'mail archives' to figure out what they are anyway. :-). Ken I like it as much as you do, for the reasons we both know.
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2010/3/4 Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com: But has a point. Mail archives are dead as an interface. Google knows all. We should be asking 'Did you ask Google?' rather than 'Did you search the mail archives.' I'm sure many people have to go Google 'mail archives' to figure out what they are anyway. :-). Ken I don't know that you mean by dead as an interface. What's the fuss about which mail archive to use, they only store email marc is fine as well as any other archive.
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On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 03:23:24PM +0100, Bret S. Lambert wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:56:00AM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: 2010/3/4 nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. Do you realize how painful it is to answer the same question over and over ? Of course not! He can't find that thread!!! But has a point. Mail archives are dead as an interface. Google knows all. We should be asking 'Did you ask Google?' rather than 'Did you search the mail archives.' I'm sure many people have to go Google 'mail archives' to figure out what they are anyway. :-). Ken
Re: Best Mail Archive
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 11:08 -0500, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 03:23:24PM +0100, Bret S. Lambert wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:56:00AM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: 2010/3/4 nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com: Every time someone tells me to go search an archive, I want to use profanity. They never think of just how painful mail archive searching is, but I guess we all have to bite the bullet and use search systems that are bad at searching. Do you realize how painful it is to answer the same question over and over ? Of course not! He can't find that thread!!! But has a point. Mail archives are dead as an interface. Google knows all. We should be asking 'Did you ask Google?' rather than 'Did you search the mail archives.' I'm sure many people have to go Google 'mail archives' to figure out what they are anyway. :-). Ken you can use google to search the archives put site:http://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/ your search into the google search bar That will use the gmane archive and the power of google. using gmane Searched gmane.gmane.os.openbsd.misc for current ports Around 825 matching articles. Results 1-10. 75,674,724 articles searched in 1.296083 seconds. using google Results 1 - 10 of about 2,250 from www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org for current ports. (0.15 seconds) not really sure if it's better, but it's possible. The top 10 results are slightly different. -- Later Peter
