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On 22.12.20 00:18, pipus wrote: > (...) > Interesting 28 public and private emails protecting Stuart and his parts > 2 really nice private emails on the product itself :) Well, in fact the project sounds indeed to me in the beginning. But reading this thread I must realize that you tried hard to create very bad conditions for that project by stumbling through this list insulting people and lecture me in a top-down approach what I have been supposedly "waiting for ages" and such I am very happy that you are not in MY marketing team (and I mean *really* happy). I can only speak for me, but the project you announced before is not longer on my list (I don't know but this project has negative connotation since reading this thread). Chapeau!
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On 22/12/20 10:18 am, pipus wrote: > First rule Dunning-Kruger club is to … [ snip telegraphic diarrhoea ] > > Interesting 28 public and private emails protecting Stuart … [ snip > telegraphic diarrhoea ] Seriously, grow up. It is said that empty vessels make the most sound, and you've made more than enough noise. > Australia is nearing a totalitarian state, … [ snip more telegraphic > diarrhoea ] … and? Unless you live here, that's our problem to deal with and not yours. I look around at other places that are world-wide accepted as totalitarian states, and this one really doesn't seem that totalitarian in comparison. In any case, such discussions are irrelevant here. There's a file, /dev/null, that you might want to send this diatribe to. -- Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL) I haven't lost my mind... ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
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pipus writes: > Interesting 28 public and private emails protecting Stuart and his > parts 2 really nice private emails on the product itself :) You're a real super good salesperson, it seems. Nobody in their right mind would buy whatever it is you're trying to flog after seeing you act this way on the list. 0/10 troll harder.
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First rule Dunning-Kruger club is to suck on Stuart's bits and bless him as much as possible and ignore innovation that could change the security of the normie home. :). Based on your own development. Interesting 28 public and private emails protecting Stuart and his parts 2 really nice private emails on the product itself :) They were right Unix is dead. Australia is nearing a totalitarian state, Netherlands in many ways too, Curacao (due to the Dutch government) now has a law that removes all rights to ownership and freedom, Poland is folding in on itself, the China digital model is expanding at an alarming rate in western cultures ... so laugh it up boys . who gives a fuck right? :) Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, 21 December 2020 23:39, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Arib Mason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:01 PM Ashlen euryd...@riseup.net wrote: > > > > > On 20/12/16 22:55, pipus wrote: > > > > > > > haha Stuart. > > > > Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) > > > > Ever hear of Dunning-Kruger, pipus? > > > > > > https://lsa.umich.edu/psych/news-events/all-news/faculty-news/the-dunning-kruger-effect-shows-why-some-people-think-they-re-gr.html > > > > First rule of Dunning-Kruger club is you don't know you're in > > Dunning-Kruger club. > > Russell's paradox! > > > -- > > Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict > > I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
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Arib Mason wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:01 PM Ashlen wrote: > > > > On 20/12/16 22:55, pipus wrote: > > > haha Stuart. > > > Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) > > Ever hear of Dunning-Kruger, pipus? > > > > https://lsa.umich.edu/psych/news-events/all-news/faculty-news/the-dunning-kruger-effect-shows-why-some-people-think-they-re-gr.html > > > > First rule of Dunning-Kruger club is you don't know you're in > Dunning-Kruger club. > Russell's paradox! > -- > Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict > I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:01 PM Ashlen wrote: > > On 20/12/16 22:55, pipus wrote: > > haha Stuart. > > Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) > Ever hear of Dunning-Kruger, pipus? > > https://lsa.umich.edu/psych/news-events/all-news/faculty-news/the-dunning-kruger-effect-shows-why-some-people-think-they-re-gr.html > First rule of Dunning-Kruger club is you don't know you're in Dunning-Kruger club. -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
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On 20/12/16 22:55, pipus wrote: > haha Stuart. > Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) Ever hear of Dunning-Kruger, pipus? https://lsa.umich.edu/psych/news-events/all-news/faculty-news/the-dunning-kruger-effect-shows-why-some-people-think-they-re-gr.html I hope you can look inward and find peace. Meditate and aim to be better than you were yesterday. With some practice and dedication, who knows...maybe you can become a valuable asset. In other words, a little more like Stuart. ;) -- https://amissing.link
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F- my formatting got all jub'd up. For prosperity: Oh Lord... > haha Stuart. > Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) Yeah, I think we all agree that Stuart is pretty retarded, like retarded gorilla territory but it's probably rude to point it out like that. It's better to just let him lumber around the mailing list, defecating where he pleases and smelling his own farts(4), it's really not hurting anyone, plus I think he amuses Theo somehow... > Would you be more receptive if it was made by Linus and used Linux I > wonder... ? Um, no? > Try not to be to childish was just a bit of excitement SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB IDIOT. The mailing list specifically states: "The only mailing lists that allow file attachments are the bugs, ports and tech lists." Didja read that you crap smelling lobster?! > over something we have been waiting for for many decades. Time in an illusion. The only time now is party time, got that? pipus you're a stink butt and no one likes you. Actually, I think you were joking about the commercial revolution but I still hate you otherwise. No regular person wants a Sun Blade 1000 running OpenBSD 6.9 next to their toilet managing their Internet. OpenBSD is for super-friends and no one else. I shall think of you as I throw up. Professor Anus T. Pepper University of Jub Jubjub, NY 34257 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:37 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > pipus pi...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > Stuart, one more thing, many of us have a question for you. > > Why does Theo, someone we have a huge amount of respect for, give you such > > leeway in the forum? > > Because he makes the world better. > > On the other -- whoever you are -- you just smear shit over everything.
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Oh Lord... > haha Stuart. > Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) Yeah, I think we all agree that Stuart is pretty retarded, like retarded gorilla territory but it's probably rude to point it out like that. It's better to just let him lumber around the mailing list, defecating where he pleases and smelling his own farts(4), it's really not hurting anyone, plus I think he amuses Theo somehow... > Would you be more receptive if it was made by Linus and used Linux > I wonder... ? Um, no? > Try not to be to childish was just a bit of excitement SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB IDIOT. The mailing list specifically states: "The only mailing lists that allow file attachments are the bugs, ports and tech lists." Didja read that you crap smelling lobster?! > over something we have been waiting for for many decades. Time in an illusion. The only time now is party time, got that? pipus you're a stink butt and no one likes you. Actually, I think you were joking about the commercial revolution but I still hate you otherwise. No regular person wants a Sun Blade 1000 running OpenBSD 6.9 next to their toilet managing their Internet. OpenBSD is for super-friends and no one else. I shall think of you as I throw up. Professor Anus T. Pepper University of Jub Jubjub, NY 34257
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Stuart, one more thing, many of us have a question for you. Why does Theo, someone we have a huge amount of respect for, give you such leeway in the forum? You are Linus loving pseudo-tech. A very much pointless person although you reply to sooo sooo many threads. You know your idol doesn't even use Linux himself right? Linus uses BSD, Darwin, because the 11 million lines of linux code is such a peace of crap he cannot even use it in his daily life, too unstable and insecure. Not a single stable distro except maybe RHEL which requires massive effort to keep clean. A beautiful idea terribly corrupted. Imagine losing your rag with us in 98 and then copying Unix really fecking badly, slapping your name on it, and then not making a single viable distro that doesn't break with almost every update. He played a great joke on the tech society on the world as a whole. hahaha. He followed Gates with the spread of the unusable. Good model it seems. SME alone we get 20-50 major hacks on the linux domain at great cost to B2B a year, let alone wrapping DMZ after DMZ on LE. Some communities are trying hard to keep stable but it is an uphill battle. So a few of us were wondering why you are here. Do you bring in the big donos? Did you marry someone's sister, cat, hamster? Let us know if you can. Did you get lost maybe fell into the forum by accident thinking it was Linux? :). It is not. It is something built a little better. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:46, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2020-12-16, pipus pi...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > I am sure they will inform once they launch > > If they do, I hope they stick to one single mail without a load of > nonsense and no stupid jpeg attachments. This is a mailing list for > discussions of OpenBSD not a marketing forum.
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haha Stuart. Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) Would you be more receptive if it was made by Linus and used Linux I wonder... ? Try not to be to childish was just a bit of excitement over something we have been waiting for for many decades. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:46, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2020-12-16, pipus pi...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > I am sure they will inform once they launch > > If they do, I hope they stick to one single mail without a load of > nonsense and no stupid jpeg attachments. This is a mailing list for > discussions of OpenBSD not a marketing forum.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:12 PM Daniel Jakots wrote: > > While you were "waiting for many decades" (because I assume you were > not able to do the work), Stuart has done more than 17000 commits in > OpenBSD. It could be funny to see how clueless you are, if it wasn't > appalling because of your lack of respect. > > And helped countless others here on misc. I think I know who I respect, and who I don't.
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 22:55:17 +, pipus wrote: > haha Stuart. > Always there to make a low IQ entrance :) > Would you be more receptive if it was made by Linus and used Linux I > wonder... ? Try not to be to childish was just a bit of excitement > over something we have been waiting for for many decades. While you were "waiting for many decades" (because I assume you were not able to do the work), Stuart has done more than 17000 commits in OpenBSD. It could be funny to see how clueless you are, if it wasn't appalling because of your lack of respect. Cheers, Daniel
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Ah cool Yes I have seen it in action it is real and apparently coming out in less than a month. But I hope that those on this list realise what it means. A commercial revolution for OpenBSD. It should not be for only us. But then I am not their marketing team so will let them announce when it comes. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:33, Lari Huttunen wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 04:11:06PM +, pipus wrote: > > > I am sure they will inform once they launch > > There are a few of them on the list. > > OK, cool. > > > > > So dear Lari we can agree to disagree. :) I believe at least 1000 of those > > on this list would prefer BSD to linux as a home gateway and don't have > > time to code it all themselves. In fact since I was told about the product > > I haven't found anything even close to the functionality. It seems to sit > > uniquely. > > No, you misunderstood me. I think there definitely is a market for what you > described if it exists. It is high time something like that needs to be > available. If someone does it commercially, more power to them. I hope them > the best of luck with their endeavors. > > Best regards, > > Lari Huttunen > > --- > > "See the unseen. - https://photography.huttu.net
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pipus wrote: > Stuart, one more thing, many of us have a question for you. > Why does Theo, someone we have a huge amount of respect for, give you such > leeway in the forum? Because he makes the world better. On the other -- whoever you are -- you just smear shit over everything.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 09:04:30PM +, pipus wrote: > Ah cool > > Yes I have seen it in action it is real and apparently coming out in less > than a month. > > But I hope that those on this list realise what it means. > A commercial revolution for OpenBSD. > It should not be for only us. > > But then I am not their marketing team so will let them announce when it > comes. > Whatever. please go away. But read the website. You can sell OpenBSD freely. You can modify it, release that as long as the copyright notices are kept. We could care less what anyone else is doing. Go troll on some mailing list for toilet innovations, because you are full of shit.
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On 2020-12-16, pipus wrote: > I am sure they will inform once they launch If they do, I hope they stick to one single mail without a load of nonsense and no stupid jpeg attachments. This is a mailing list for discussions of OpenBSD not a marketing forum.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 04:11:06PM +, pipus wrote: > I am sure they will inform once they launch > There are a few of them on the list. OK, cool. > So dear Lari we can agree to disagree. :) I believe at least 1000 of those on > this list would prefer BSD to linux as a home gateway and don't have time to > code it all themselves. In fact since I was told about the product I haven't > found anything even close to the functionality. It seems to sit uniquely. No, you misunderstood me. I think there definitely is a market for what you described if it exists. It is high time something like that needs to be available. If someone does it commercially, more power to them. I hope them the best of luck with their endeavors. Best regards, Lari Huttunen -- "See the unseen. - https://photography.huttu.net
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Lari, I am sure they will inform once they launch There are a few of them on the list. And as always with some techs they believe they have to live on the CLI and fear peer visibility if they don't. Trust me you grow out of this once you have delivered enough. Those of us with families, other interests, deadlines, we don't have time to do it all ourselves and happily admit it. I would bet that if your IQ is over 140, on this list or not, having a prebuilt OpenBSD home gateway with 9 functions in one box would get you rather excited. And don't worry you can buy it without telling anyone :). How long have we waited for such a thing ? Imagine ... Firewall, NAS (including Time-machine), Home Cloud, Free App Store, Media/Music Centre, Internet VPN & Home Anywhere VPN, Ad Blocking & DNS Control, Net & WiFI Remote Mgt, Privacy Proxy, & Parental Control ... plus a dev hub .. creator hub ... all built in and ready to go for the whole home, not just a single node. So dear Lari we can agree to disagree. :) I believe at least 1000 of those on this list would prefer BSD to linux as a home gateway and don't have time to code it all themselves. In fact since I was told about the product I haven't found anything even close to the functionality. It seems to sit uniquely. Wasn't this why we developed Unix in the first place? So this list is the perfect place :) Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:53, Lari Huttunen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:38:47PM +, pipus wrote: > > > so I got lucky. See attacked screenshot of the present portal. > > I managed to persuade to get a screenshot of the Home Gateway passed on > > OpenBSD. It shows the "home anywhere" so a one click home in bound & > > outbound VPN without opening your network with port forwarding and being > > able to roam behind the home gateway anywhere in the world. Pretty cool. > > So interesting right? An OpenBSD consumer product that is a gateway that > > protects your whole home in firewall, in built VPN, privacy filter, > > ransomeware protection, even cookie caching through proxy. > > And yes some of them are ex-Sun Microsystems so know the firewall well :). > > It feels familiar somehow :) > > So when they go live in the next few weeks you can ask for features I am > > sure they would be willing. Nice group of guys. > > Looks interesting and would like to know more about the company and the > product. > As security and trust go hand in hand, the more likely demography for this > type of product most likely lies outside this "forum", but for the average > consumer, why not. :) > > Best regards, > > Lari Huttunen > > - > > "See the unseen." - https://photography.huttu.net
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:38:47PM +, pipus wrote: > so I got lucky. See attacked screenshot of the present portal. > I managed to persuade to get a screenshot of the Home Gateway passed on > OpenBSD. It shows the "home anywhere" so a one click home in bound & > outbound VPN without opening your network with port forwarding and being able > to roam behind the home gateway anywhere in the world. Pretty cool. > So interesting right? An OpenBSD consumer product that is a gateway that > protects your whole home in firewall, in built VPN, privacy filter, > ransomeware protection, even cookie caching through proxy. > And yes some of them are ex-Sun Microsystems so know the firewall well :). It > feels familiar somehow :) > So when they go live in the next few weeks you can ask for features I am sure > they would be willing. Nice group of guys. Looks interesting and would like to know more about the company and the product. As security and trust go hand in hand, the more likely demography for this type of product most likely lies outside this "forum", but for the average consumer, why not. :) Best regards, Lari Huttunen -- "See the unseen." - https://photography.huttu.net
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I heard someone on this mailing list is creating a home gateway with firewall,VPN, web proxy, DNS blocker, privacy filter, even with its own middleware. I never got a name but they maybe might peek their head above water if they see this thread. >From what I heard it is and all in one security, media, dev hub and NAS >gateway using OpenBSD as a base with an easy to use portal. If true I would be begging for it. But someone might talk somewhere :) ... maybe. As I know that they should be going commercial soon. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, 14 December 2020 22:09, Lari Huttunen wrote: > Cheers! > > For the past couple of weeks I've been tinkering on a hobby project, whose > aim is > make it easier for users to improve their privacy on the network level and > make it > easier for them to access geo-fenced Internet resources. > > I've documented the prototype here and comments, feedback, corrections are > most > welcome. I hope people trying to learn about rdomain(4) and openvpn(8) on > OpenBSD > can at least get something out of it. > > https://www.huttu.net/posts/rtable/ > > Best regards, > > Lari Huttunen > > --- > > "See the unseen." - https://photography.huttu.net
