Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

--On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:49:30 AM -0600 Chris Bennett wrote: > I do see that lpc, lpq, lprm are dinosaurs and have to be made extinct > and replaced with something more functional with more information output > and better capabilities. Whatever

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

| Funnily enough I didn't see either of those until they were quoted here ;) | I recommend slrn pointed at gmane's news server for reading misc with liberal | use of the 'k' key, some of the features for making newsgroups readable are | equally applicable to busy mailing lists. Is it possible to

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On 2016-02-19, Chris Bennett wrote: > Why don't hru...@gmail.com and li...@wrant.com have a lovely and > exciting chat off of my lpd/lpr thread? Funnily enough I didn't see either of those until they were quoted here ;) I recommend slrn pointed at gmane's

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016, Chris Bennett wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 06:52:43PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: Maybe you should pull your head out of the sand (asshole) and understand [...] That previous request was not to include trolling me privately. By the way, I only expressed my

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On 17 Feb 2016, at 14:07, Chris Bennett wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 07:51:28PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: >> >> The only thing wrong with lpd is nobody tedu'ed it yet. >> >> No really, it is outdated beyond rescue. If you want to write a new >> print job queueing system, sure, have fun.

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 06:52:43PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Maybe you should pull your head out of the sand (asshole) and understand > why you can not find relevant information. You're not reading man > pages, but people say. That previous request was not to include trolling me

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016, li...@wrant.com wrote: Well, let me say my opinion. Why ?! I think, you missed the context of my two postings of yesterday. I do not see any problem with lpr/lpd, the only reason given here to change it is: * lpd(8)/lpc(8)/lpr(1) is very old and suffering from

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:38:38 + (GMT) Roderick > Well, let me say my opinion. Why !? > I think BSD and Unix is also "outdated beyond rescue", but we are ^^ This means "following standards and reliably implementing Unix core".

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 05:47:42PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:38:38 + (GMT) Roderick > > Well, let me say my opinion. > > Why !? > > > I think BSD and Unix is also "outdated beyond rescue", but we are >

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On 2016-02-18, gwes wrote: > CUPS installs AVAHI. That is a security risk - it attempts > to change DNS lookups, etc. Can you expand on "it attempts to change DNS lookups"? Perhaps on OS with nsswitch via nss-mdns, but I don't see any way of getting it to do this on OpenBSD, even

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 06:58:07PM -0700, Andy Bradford wrote: > Thus said Chris Cappuccio on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:09:38 -0800: > > > aren't there plenty of simple pre-processor scripts that people are > > using with lp to turn whatever into some output for simple dumb > > printers? CUPS

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

Thus said Chris Cappuccio on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:09:38 -0800: > aren't there plenty of simple pre-processor scripts that people are > using with lp to turn whatever into some output for simple dumb > printers? CUPS is so annoying and stupid, it's not even funny Perhaps apsfilter? Andy

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

gwes [g...@oat.com] wrote: > > I just created and will submit to ports a version > of ghostscript which doesn't pull in cups - it > turns out the configuration has a switch for that case. > aren't there plenty of simple pre-processor scripts that people are using with lp to turn whatever into

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On 02/18/2016 16:33, Chris Bennett wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 04:10:06PM -0500, gwes wrote: . They don't do dynamic autoconfiguration. In an industrial environment autoconfiguration can be very bad. (examples like directing confidential output somewhere unexpected) I haven't looked at

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 04:10:06PM -0500, gwes wrote: > I'm not sure what measure of "better" you're trying to apply. > > lpr et al. don't have a GUI. One could be wrapped around them. > I personally wouldn't want that. Others have said that cups provides nice information for printers in other

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On 02/17/2016 12:49, Chris Bennett wrote: After reading up on printers in use, I discovered that there is significant use of line printers due to their very low cost of consumables, production of a very long lasting output, unlike laser/thermal/inkjet printers and high reliability. Is anyone

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On 02/17/2016 12:49, Chris Bennett wrote: After reading up on printers in use, I discovered that there is significant use of line printers due to their very low cost of consumables, production of a very long lasting output, unlike laser/thermal/inkjet printers and high reliability. Is anyone

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016, Tobias Ulmer wrote: No really, it is outdated beyond rescue. If you want to write a new print job queueing system, sure, have fun. Maybe you can come up with a 'cups' that doesn't suck? Well, let me say my opinion. I think BSD and Unix is also "outdated beyond rescue",

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Thu, 17 Feb 2016, Andy Bradford wrote: Anyway, just some musings. Is there anyone else out there using lpr/lpd/lprm from base? Maybe I'm the only one? I never used something else. And if I install a package that bloats my system with cups as dependency, I delete immediatly the

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On 2/17/16, Andy Bradford wrote: > Anyway, just some musings. Is there anyone else out there using > lpr/lpd/lprm from base? Maybe I'm the only one? yep. been using it for many years with many different HP and Brother network printers. --patrick

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

Am 02/18/16 um 06:28 schrieb Andy Bradford: > > Anyway, just some musings. Is there anyone else out there using > lpr/lpd/lprm from base? Maybe I'm the only one? > > Thanks, > > Andy > I've connected a Kyocera FS-920 to my router and all hosts (*bsd, mac, win) do their printing on it

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Andy Bradford wrote: > Anyway, just some musings. Is there anyone else out there using > lpr/lpd/lprm from base? Maybe I'm the only one? I've been using the lp* tools for many years for personal printing, first using a

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

Thus said Tobias Ulmer on Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:51:28 +0100: > No really, it is outdated beyond rescue. But it does work (at least in some configurations). To enable my PostScript printers, all I have to do is add a single line to /etc/printcap... well, maybe 2 lines. printer:\

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:49:30AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: > After reading up on printers in use, I discovered that there is > significant use of line printers due to their very low cost of > consumables, production of a very long lasting output, unlike > laser/thermal/inkjet printers and high

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 07:51:28PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > > The only thing wrong with lpd is nobody tedu'ed it yet. > > No really, it is outdated beyond rescue. If you want to write a new > print job queueing system, sure, have fun. Maybe you can come up with a > 'cups' that doesn't suck?